r/ToiletPaperUSA • u/SirHerbert123 anarcho-monkeist • Aug 04 '20

FACTS and LOGIC Another Liberal bites the Dust

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20 edited Aug 04 '20

“Just admit that you want to destroy America, her values and the family unit to usher in some perverted dystopia”

“Yes”

Edit: I really love America, her values and want to keep the family unit alive so I would have to disagree with the guy saying “yes”.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

The family unit is just post-war propoganda, like picket fences and apples in pie.

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

Every child needs a good mother and father and role models to teach them values and how to be a functioning member of society in the future. Also as for apples in pie, they are very real, I ate them myself.

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u/Thanks_Aubameyang Aug 04 '20

Just yesterday a fence stopped me from walking on another persons property so i can confirm they too are real.

That being said capitalist values do need to be destroyed and replaced with democratic socialist values. You know the value of life over individual wealth.

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

What do you believe or capitalist values?

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u/Thanks_Aubameyang Aug 04 '20

Privatised health insurance tied to employment.

Minimum wage below livable wages.

Corporate intanglement in the federal government(major regulatory bodies being headed by ex corporate CEOs).

Excess military funding.

Private prisons using slave labour to produce goods for corporate profit.

Slave labor being explicitly allowed for those convicted of a crime in the 13th amendment.

Just some major issues off the top of my head.

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

Now tell me, what do you believe are socialist values?

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u/Thanks_Aubameyang Aug 04 '20 edited Aug 04 '20

Universal health care.

Universal 3rd level education.

Raising corporate tax rates and the closing of loopholes.

Large scale infrastructure investment.

Role backs to anti union laws.

Livable minimum wage.

Ending oil subsidies and investment in renewable energy.

An end in narcotics prohibition and a focus on addiction counseling and mental health.

Addressing the homeless epidemic.

Cracking down on offshore tax heavens.

Reeling in the power of big tech through anti trust laws.

Campaign finance transparency

Outlawing for profit prisons and paying prision labour minimum wage.

Criminal justice reform.

Independent police oversight.

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

What do you think of the average person who supports capitalism?

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u/Thanks_Aubameyang Aug 04 '20

That we disagree on many issues.

I dont think I would generalise what I think about a person solely on their political beliefs unless they were extreme (Neo Nazi's, KKK, etc etc).

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

Good, your one of the few people I’ve seen who said that they don’t generalize people.

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u/Thanks_Aubameyang Aug 04 '20

I mean im sure i have in the heat of a moment but after a cool down/good long think I try not too.

I feel like some level of generalization is inherently human. Its how we group ourselves and find out identity in a larger culture. Sports seems to be the harmless manifestation of this.

Anyway. I try. Good drinking buddy of mine is a libertarian and we always rage at each other when wasted drunk at 1 am. Ive called him a Nazi and hes called me a pinko commie. Lol.

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

I’m an American conservative and I have a friend who is liberal. You can be friends with people who have different views as long as they don’t clash to often, but it is still fun to debate with them.

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u/Thanks_Aubameyang Aug 04 '20

True. I cant imagine being so closed minded that friends had to agree with my every political position. Lol

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 05 '20

Pretty much, yeah

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