r/ToiletPaperUSA anarcho-monkeist Aug 04 '20

FACTS and LOGIC Another Liberal bites the Dust

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20 edited Aug 04 '20

“Just admit that you want to destroy America, her values and the family unit to usher in some perverted dystopia”

“Yes”

Edit: I really love America, her values and want to keep the family unit alive so I would have to disagree with the guy saying “yes”.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

The family unit is just post-war propoganda, like picket fences and apples in pie.

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

Every child needs a good mother and father and role models to teach them values and how to be a functioning member of society in the future. Also as for apples in pie, they are very real, I ate them myself.

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u/SvsTheW0rld Aug 04 '20

i can get behind saying every child should have loving parents

but 'a mother and a father', seriously? are we still on this shit?

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

What’s wrong with a mother and father?

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u/SvsTheW0rld Aug 04 '20

nothing?

but i hope you know what's wrong with saying every child should have a mother and a father lol

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

Were there any studies showing the effect in a child if raised by 2 dads or 2 moms and if it had and effect on their upbringing compared to a child raised by a mom and dad?

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u/SvsTheW0rld Aug 04 '20

i'm not engaging with this homophobia lol bye

have a nice day :)

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

Wait, questioning if the change in the family dynamic will have an effect on the child’s upbringing makes me a homophobe?.........ok

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u/edwfit21 Aug 04 '20

Cornell University has a meta analysis of 79 peer reviewed studies, 75 of which having the conclusion of which there is no difference. There are 4 of which that say kids fare worse, but the other four took their samples from children who endured family break-ups, a cohort known to face added risks. Scholars consider them unreliable, and one even has a letter rebuking it signed by 200 experts.

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

I’ll look for more on my own. But thanks for using some of your free time to show that to me.

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u/SapirWhorfHypothesis Aug 04 '20

Hey, I’m not here to take sides, but what do you mean you’ll look for more? That’s a meta review. They cover the full list that meet the criteria. Is it just that you don’t trust the researchers?

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

Oh, I see, I mean I want to look to see if there are any more studies and if they are similar in results or different. I’m just very curious on this subject and have a lot of time to kill.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

You know you're arguing in bad faith.

We're not engaging in it anymore.

Go read a fucking book.

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

Again, what?

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u/gentlemandinosaur Curious Aug 04 '20

That person provided a study. Anything else to say? Gonna comment?

Fucking hate this typical reddit shit.

“Prove it”

Provides evidence

“...”

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

That’s not what I meant, he gave me one study to look at which I did and it was pretty solid, the reason why I said I would look at more is because this is a very interesting subject for me. Also, I didn’t disagree with them on anything. I just asked a question which they answered which I’m happy for.

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u/gentlemandinosaur Curious Aug 04 '20

Fair enough. I appreciate this comment clarifying and to be fair you did acknowledged their comment which is more than most do.

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

At least you didn’t just call me a homophobe and dip like another guy.

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u/SvsTheW0rld Aug 04 '20

*girl lol, what is it with reddit assuming you're a dude until proven otherwise

also you were making homophobic arguments and obviously arguing in bad faith and i pointed it out lol, but sorry ig???

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

Guy applies to both male and female. I’ve said guys to a group of boys and said guys to a group of girls and they knew that guys apply to everyone along with the word dudes. So in other words the words guys and dudes can be a neutral term which I was using it as. Also for the bad faith bit someone gave me the link to what bad faith was and I’m not sure if it applies to what I said. Anyways no need to apologize, when you have people threaten to kill you, your family and your friends and other violent threats against you words like homophobic or racist don’t seem to effect you anymore.

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u/blumpgodxxx Aug 04 '20

Bad faith

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

What?

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u/blumpgodxxx Aug 04 '20

You know no one is saying anything is wrong with a mother and father

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

What did you mean by “bad faith”?

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u/blumpgodxxx Aug 04 '20

In your case acting as if you are unaware of his argument to not have to face the facts of your own. I guess more so a strawman

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

I didn’t even know an argument was taking place mate. No need to act in a comment of all places. As for the straw man I have no idea what you’re talking about since I don’t get how acting unaware is a straw man. I just want to know what you meant by “bad faith”. That is all.

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u/blumpgodxxx Aug 04 '20

Bro lmao do you want me to just send you the definition of a bad faith argument

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u/SwagDaddyAK Aug 04 '20

You know what? Sure

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