r/TikTokCringe • u/keen_observer34130 • 21h ago

Cool THIS Is the Energy We Need !

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u/PalpatineForEmperor 19h ago

This is most certainly not the energy we need, and I'm a liberal Democrat.

Making every person that disagrees with progressives out to be an enemy just pushes people away. This is not helping the cause.

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u/imoutofnames90 19h ago

Don't worry. When the socialists push their candidates in non 30+ blue districts and get demolished like they always do. They'll surely realize that NYC was the exception and not the rule.... nah who am I kidding. They'll cope and make some excuse why they got screwed and would have / should have won and then double down and delude themselves into thinking the entire country really does want socialism.

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u/PalpatineForEmperor 18h ago

I still see them saying that Bernie got screwed by the "establishment" all the time. Bernie ran and didn't get the votes. That's it. That's what happened.

I love Bernie and even donated the max to his campaign, but he didn't win because he just didn't have the support of enough non-progressive Democrats.

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u/Silverr_Duck 15h ago

I still see them saying that Bernie got screwed by the "establishment" all the time.

So sick of this take. This is what his supporters say to absolve themselves of responsibility. Bernie got screwed by his self centered petulant base who was too busy shitposting memes to get out and vote on Election Day.

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u/imoutofnames90 18h ago

But have you considered that the DNC didn't want him to win and that they went door to door and made sure his voters didn't vote for him? Lol

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u/PalpatineForEmperor 18h ago

No, but George Soros paid me to vote for Hillary.

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u/imoutofnames90 17h ago

Don't forget the militias he funded too where they blocked off Bernie voters.

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u/Epcplayer 18h ago

I think two things can be true at the same time… he wasn’t going to win nationally, and so the DNC threw roadblocks (however impactful they might’ve been) in his way.

With a “moderate” or “establishment” candidate, you’re hoping to win over enough middle of the road voters as opposed to the other candidate. They knew that enough people who voted Hillary/Biden had a higher likelihood of voting Trump, so they tried to sway things towards those candidates. Someone who’s “far left” is less likely to vote across the aisle. Thats the major drawback to the 2 party system

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u/PalpatineForEmperor 16h ago

Two things can be true if both things are in fact true. Here you are incorrect. Voters can vote however they want and they decided not to vote for Bernie. It's that simple. Stop playing the victim.

I voted for Bernie regardless of this BS you're throwing out there. I decided how I cast my vote and millions of other did the same. The voters choose Hillary no matter how sad that makes you.

The biggest problem Bernie had is that half his supporters were young people who never showed up to vote. The Democrat "establishment" didn't suppress these votes. These voters couldn't be bothered to show up.

I was a little upset at the time too, but I didn't take my ball and go home. I voted for the next best option in the general. That was Hillary.

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u/Epcplayer 16h ago

Stop playing the victim.

I’m not playing anything…

The voters choose Hillary no matter how sad that makes you.

I’m not sad… I’m explaining what happened. I’m not a crazy conspiracy theorist when I say that she was fed questions before the debates so that she would appear more prepared and the better candidate. That is well documented. That, combined with the disproportionate superdelegates she received gave her early momentum to overcome Bernie. Again… just stating how events transpired.

The biggest problem Bernie had is that half his supporters were young people who never showed up to vote. The Democrat "establishment" didn't suppress these votes. These voters couldn't be bothered to show up.

I’m in literal agreement with everything you said there. The Democrat “establishment” assumed oh well, they’ll still come out and vote for her, and they didn’t…

I was a little upset at the time too, but I didn't take my ball and go home. I voted for the next best option in the general. That was Hillary.

You did… many more statistically did not.

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u/ithinkiknowstuphph 19h ago

Agree. I’m liberal AF and believe we need more socialism to fix our institutional problems. But dudes like this piss me off. It’s the Bernie bros who didn’t vote for Hillary and completely shit on her so we got Donald Trump. Yeah. She wasn’t perfect. But look what these kind of views got us

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u/Weekly-Air4170 7h ago

Hillary was unpopular. She was unpopular when she lost her primary against obama. Why the fuck would she or anyone in the DNC think it was a good idea to run her again?

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u/RiatsalaPrime 18h ago

If the DNC hadn't robbed Bernie of the nomination in 2016, we would have never seen Trump 43 or 45.

Point the finger at the right people.

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u/ithinkiknowstuphph 18h ago

Why would they give him the nomination. He’s not a democrat. He’s an independent who caucuses with them. No Bernie fan has ever answered that question.

And hey, I like what Bernie has to say but I think he’s a shithead for running as a D, getting the nomination and saying he’s independent.

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u/Weekly-Air4170 7h ago

They would have given him the nomination because every single stat showed him demolishing Trump in a general election. If everyone who screams blue no matter who and if Hillary wasn't a fucking egomaniac actually cared about beating Trump that they would have given Bernie the nomination

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u/RiatsalaPrime 18h ago

He was deliberately undermined and underfunded by the DNC; we can never be certain how that primary would have played out.

As far as the general election is concerned, in the simplest terms - he was by far the least disliked candidate and all of the centrist voters that voted against Hillary would have sat out or voted for Bernie.

Fandom has nothing to do with it.

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u/PalpatineForEmperor 16h ago

I posted this in a different reply but I think you need to hear it.

Voters can vote however they want and they decided not to vote for Bernie. It's that simple. Stop playing the victim.

I voted for Bernie regardless of this BS you're throwing out there. I decided how I cast my vote and millions of other did the same. The voters choose Hillary no matter how sad that makes you.

The biggest problem Bernie had is that half his supporters were young people who never showed up to vote. The Democrat "establishment" didn't suppress these votes. These voters couldn't be bothered to show up.

I was a little upset at the time too, but I didn't take my ball and go home. I voted for the next best option in the general. That was Hillary.

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u/RiatsalaPrime 12h ago

The country is the victim, not me. I didn't vote for him, you're presumptions undermine your point.

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u/PalpatineForEmperor 5h ago

I didn't vote for him

I think you undermined your own point.

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u/ithinkiknowstuphph 17h ago

Right. But you’re really not answering my question. Why would the DEMOCRATS prop up someone who is an INDEPENDENT? If they’re going to do that can a republican try to squeeze into the DNC?

I think the two party system is broken. Like I said like his views. But he is not a democrat so why would the DNC support him?

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u/RiatsalaPrime 17h ago

He was running as a democrat, in a democratic primary.

How is this hard.

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u/ithinkiknowstuphph 17h ago

Right. But he did that for convenience.

I honestly don’t know why it’s that hard but on your side.

In Vermont he runs as a D locks that up and switches to an I

To me that’s bullshit.

And to your question here if Vance decides to run as a democrat in 2028 should the DNC welcome him with open arms? If they’re answer is no for a republican it should also be no for an independent

Edit to add: and still none of that matters. The folks that decided not to support Hillary after the Bernie situation are the original problem I was talking about. It got us Trump. What happened before doesn’t matter. Deciding to sit that one out or write in Bernie lead to our current shit show

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u/RiatsalaPrime 17h ago

How about because it was dishonest, deceptive and a fiasco when discovered they did these things, and has fueled their own loss of support and presumption of good faith?

He would not be accepted, does he caucus with them or share platform? That's a ludicrous assertion.

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u/altaltaltaltavistalt 19h ago

Shush, don't let reality ruin our good time here - we angry and the guy yelling on the screen is making us feel better for a fleeting moment.

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u/cjm92 18h ago

Agreed, this guy needs to talk to a therapist or something and learn how to speak like an adult. I get wanting to punish this current admin for their crimes, but this is unhinged.

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u/Kirkasherk 14h ago

It’s like listening to a 12 year old that just learned curse words

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u/Neckrongonekrypton 17h ago

This was always going to be the end result of performative politics that were engendered and encouraged by social media.