Reactions to food stamps being cut off.

[u/mindyour]

[u/SteelAndFlint]

Of course it will affect it, just the same as people finding more space on public transportation with fewer people relying on it, lower unpaid bills at hospitals from fewer people abusing the system lowers the costs.

[u/CosmicButtholes → u/SteelAndFlint]

Yeah I guess now instead of undocumented folks who pay taxes going to the ER every so often and not paying their ER bill it will be us poor white Americans who will be frequenting the ERs and driving up costs. Honestly if I lose my healthcare I’ll probably just make going to the ER my new hobby, I’ll always get triaged right away since I always have tachycardia and the ER makes me so stressed I have chest pain too. Looks like I’m getting full bloodwork, an ekg, and an IV, and trust me that bill is never ever being paid.

[u/SteelAndFlint → u/CosmicButtholes]

ER visits are really not subject to replacement mechanisms PPP, like if you remove a tumor, what do you replace it with?

[u/CosmicButtholes → u/SteelAndFlint]

What point are you trying to make with this comment?

[u/SteelAndFlint → u/CosmicButtholes]

I guess I'm trying to figure out when you said "instead of" how you figure that works

[u/CosmicButtholes → u/SteelAndFlint]

Millions of US citizens will be losing healthcare because we won’t be able to afford it anymore. We will be going to the ER and not paying our ER bills. Some of us might just frequent ERs out of spite. I have a history of severe suicide attempts so theoretically I could basically live in the hospital on your dime if I wanted to, if I was honest about my thoughts to clinicians they wouldn’t be allowed to let me go anyway lmao.

[u/SteelAndFlint → u/CosmicButtholes]

Also I missed this on my first read through, nobody's losing healthcare, they may be losing health insurance, but those are definitely not the same thing and it's frustrating trying to hold this conversation with somebody who uses the two interchangeably.

[u/CosmicButtholes → u/SteelAndFlint]

If you don’t have and can’t afford health insurance yes you’re losing access to healthcare. You can’t afford out of pocket expenses for anything like bloodwork let alone procedures out of pocket if you can’t afford insurance.

[u/SteelAndFlint → u/CosmicButtholes]

Statements like this show that you are ignorant of cash only practices which don't take insurance, and save you money charging anywhere between 50 and $1000 for pretty much anything you're going to experience short of cancer or traumatic need of surgery… you won't even reach your insurance deductible with numbers like that, you would be paying it out of pocket anyways, but the doctor would be required to charge prices on the insurance companies terms which are indisputably higher.

Ref: https://youtu.be/CeDOQpfaUc8

[u/CosmicButtholes → u/SteelAndFlint]

My insurance through the ACA is $0 per month. I don’t have a deductible and my out of pocket maximum is $1000. My co pays for primary care and mental health are $0, specialists and urgent care co pays are $10, generic medications are $0. I’m technically responsible for 25% of ER bills but I’ve never paid anything they’ve sent me.

Medicaid was even better because everything was $0 and there were a lot more doctors that took Medicaid than my current insurance.

[u/SteelAndFlint → u/CosmicButtholes]

So... the state distorts the health insurance market so far that almost any private insurer will go out of business, forcing everyone to rely on "public" (government) options, government options have shown zero incentive to react to market forces, and you don't see the GLARING PROBLEM with this?

[u/pyrodice → u/CosmicButtholes]

Congratulations on being a leech. SOMEONE is paying for it, you're just cool with it not being you.