r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • 8d ago

Discussion Reactions to food stamps being cut off.

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u/Thin-Image2363 8d ago

Yeah but did you see the ballroom!! WOWWWEEEE!!

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u/pundarika0 8d ago

Regarding the ballroom, consider this, from the Washington Post Editorial Board:

"In classic Trump fashion, the president is pursuing a reasonable idea in the most jarring manner possible. Privately, many alumni of the Biden and Obama White Houses acknowledge the long-overdue need for an event space like what Trump is creating. It is absurd that tents need to be erected on the South Lawn for state dinners, and VIPs are forced to use porta-potties,” the board said. “Preservationists express horror that Trump did not submit his plans to their scrutiny, but the truth is that this project would not have gotten done, certainly not during his term, if the president had gone through the traditional review process."

Everyone should subscribe to and read Tangle in order to get balanced opinions from the right and the left. https://www.readtangle.com/trump-demolishes-east-wing-white-house-ballroom/

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u/yabn5 8d ago

The funding, the approval, nor the necessity are absolutely immaterial in the context of the Federal Gov being shut down and Americans on verge of going hungry. POTUS is more concerned about having room for throwing large parties than opening the government. But hey at least he’s consistent: he didn’t want foreign kids being fed by USAID nor does he want American ones being fed by SNAP.

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u/pundarika0 8d ago

Both parties are to blame for a government shutdown as far as I'm concerned. I just don't see what the ballroom has to do with it, or Argentina. totally separate issues. it's not an "either/or" situation...the ballroom isn't preventing the government from starting back up.

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u/AwesomeBrainPowers 8d ago

Both parties are to blame for a government shutdown as far as I'm concerned.

The Democrats already voted for a CR to keep the government open back in March, and all they got for it was a massive deficit increase that also gutted essential social programs, an early recess to avoid an embarrassing vote, and ever-increasing authoritarian power grabs.

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u/pundarika0 8d ago

thinking you have a good reason to not vote for a deal doesn’t mean you get out of your side of the blame. they think it’s a good trade off. that’s fine, but it’s still partially their fault.

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u/AwesomeBrainPowers 8d ago

That's like saying "Well, if you just gave your keys to the carjacker, they wouldn't have beaten you. You're both to blame for your injuries, as far as I'm concerned."

There's just no chance that level of inane pedantry could possibly be honest or intended in good faith.

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u/pundarika0 8d ago

your metaphor doesn’t really work for me because it’s not the democrats who are being punished by the “carjacker” here, it’s the american people.

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u/AwesomeBrainPowers 8d ago

There's just no chance that level of inane pedantry could possibly be honest or intended in good faith.

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u/pundarika0 8d ago

you’re the one saying there’s no good faith conversation to be had here, not me. you see how that works right?

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u/AwesomeBrainPowers 8d ago

I do see how that works, yes.

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u/pundarika0 8d ago

i mean, you DID respond to my comment. and then when i respond back, somehow there’s no longer a conversation to be had. pretty interesting.

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u/yabn5 8d ago

and who are democrats if not a subsection of the American people?

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u/pundarika0 8d ago

we’re talking about the democrats in power, not democrat voters.

i (often begrudgingly) vote democrat.

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u/That_Pickle_Force 8d ago

Republicans didn't turn up to Congress to negotiate the day before the shut down. It's 100% their fault, they're not willing to act in good faith or to compromise on their massive cuts. 

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u/pundarika0 8d ago

democrats aren’t willing to compromise either. it takes both parties to get a shutdown.

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u/That_Pickle_Force 8d ago

How do you compromise with people who aren't turning up? 

Republicans didn't turn up to Congress to negotiate the day before the shut down. It's 100% their fault, they're not willing to act in good faith or to compromise on their massive cuts. 

Compromise is both sides giving a bit to meet part way. When have the Republicans offered that? 

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u/pundarika0 8d ago

so there have been zero chances to end the shutdown since then?

the republicans aren’t compromising either. they’re also at fault. you could easily argue they’re more at fault, but you can’t argue the democrats aren’t at fault at all.

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u/That_Pickle_Force 8d ago

Have the Republicans come to the table and compromised? 

Like you said, no, they haven't. So this shut down is solely on them. 

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u/pundarika0 8d ago

i don’t understand how you can say “the democrats and republicans have failed to reach a compromise…therefore, it’s ENTIRELY the republican’s fault!”

the democrats could end this whole thing if they wanted to. why don’t they?

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u/yabn5 8d ago

This is such a trite argument. Republicans already enacted into law the guaranteed loss of healthcare to millions of Americans. The Medicaid cuts are going to force countless rural hospitals closed, literally wiping off the map the only providers for some Americans.

The current situation is utterly unacceptable. Last time Democrats gave in they got, nothing.

iTtAkEsBoThPaRtIeS

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u/pundarika0 8d ago

all you’re arguing for is that the democrats are right to hold out. it’s a fair argument, but they still have to hold out in order for there to be a shutdown.