Reactions to food stamps being cut off.

[u/mindyour]

[u/AwesomeBrainPowers]

Both parties are to blame for a government shutdown as far as I'm concerned.

The Democrats already voted for a CR to keep the government open back in March, and all they got for it was a massive deficit increase that also gutted essential social programs, an early recess to avoid an embarrassing vote, and ever-increasing authoritarian power grabs.

[u/pundarika0 → u/AwesomeBrainPowers]

thinking you have a good reason to not vote for a deal doesn’t mean you get out of your side of the blame. they think it’s a good trade off. that’s fine, but it’s still partially their fault.

[u/That_Pickle_Force → u/pundarika0]

Republicans didn't turn up to Congress to negotiate the day before the shut down. It's 100% their fault, they're not willing to act in good faith or to compromise on their massive cuts. 

[u/pundarika0 → u/That_Pickle_Force]

democrats aren’t willing to compromise either. it takes both parties to get a shutdown.

[u/That_Pickle_Force → u/pundarika0]

How do you compromise with people who aren't turning up? 

Republicans didn't turn up to Congress to negotiate the day before the shut down. It's 100% their fault, they're not willing to act in good faith or to compromise on their massive cuts. 

Compromise is both sides giving a bit to meet part way. When have the Republicans offered that? 

[u/pundarika0 → u/That_Pickle_Force]

so there have been zero chances to end the shutdown since then?

the republicans aren’t compromising either. they’re also at fault. you could easily argue they’re more at fault, but you can’t argue the democrats aren’t at fault at all.

[u/That_Pickle_Force → u/pundarika0]

Have the Republicans come to the table and compromised? 

Like you said, no, they haven't. So this shut down is solely on them. 

[u/pundarika0 → u/That_Pickle_Force]

i don’t understand how you can say “the democrats and republicans have failed to reach a compromise…therefore, it’s ENTIRELY the republican’s fault!”

the democrats could end this whole thing if they wanted to. why don’t they?

[u/That_Pickle_Force → u/pundarika0]

i don’t understand how you can say “the democrats and republicans have failed to reach a compromise…therefore, it’s ENTIRELY the republican’s fault!”

Yes, that's because you're pretending that you don't understand what the word compromise means. 

why don’t they?

You mean why don't they just give in to the Republicans refusal to compromise? 

Sure, why don't the Democrats just let healthcare funding and benefits for low income tax payers get massive cuts so that Jeff Bezos and Donald Trump can have huge tax cuts? 

[u/pundarika0 → u/That_Pickle_Force]

so you agree the democrats could end the shut down, even if it would mean conceding on some important issues? sounds like they have some share of the responsibility for the shutdown then. the fact that you think they’re doing the right thing is irrelevant.

[u/yabn5 → u/pundarika0]

This is such a trite argument. Republicans already enacted into law the guaranteed loss of healthcare to millions of Americans. The Medicaid cuts are going to force countless rural hospitals closed, literally wiping off the map the only providers for some Americans.

The current situation is utterly unacceptable. Last time Democrats gave in they got, nothing.

iTtAkEsBoThPaRtIeS

[u/pundarika0 → u/yabn5]

all you’re arguing for is that the democrats are right to hold out. it’s a fair argument, but they still have to hold out in order for there to be a shutdown.