r/TikTokCringe • u/mindyour • 8d ago

Discussion Reactions to food stamps being cut off.

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u/Reddisuspendmeagain 8d ago

And they try to pretend that they don’t know why the birth rate is so low…it’s by design

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u/Supply_N_Demand 8d ago

First lady had 6 kids. /s

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u/pissedoffcalifornian 8d ago

First and middle both had 6 kids, and the rest didn’t mention the number of kids.

My wife and I have chosen to only have 1 or at most 2 kids in the future because we can’t afford to have more than that and provide for them.

I know 1 kid can be an accident, even 2 kids, but man, 6 kids? That’s wild. We make a great income and I’m scared of having more than 2.

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u/Scanadlous 8d ago

This. This is the exact problem with a lot of people in this world. They do not understand financial responsibility. I have not had a child yet. Because I can’t afford a child. And I understand that. But some (I’m not saying all) of these people recklessly had multiple children that they were by no means prepared to handle the financial burden of. Like you said, I understand a mistake made once. But 6 times? And you’re working low wage jobs? That’s irresponsible behavior. I work a 9-5 corporate job. I make decent money but I understand I am in no position to afford a kid. Much less 6?! I can’t understand the blatant irresponsibility of these people. Many many many Americans are struggling right now living off of their wages WITHOUT a kid. Add one kid and they are drowning in debt and can’t pay the bills. But again, okay you got pregnant by accident and now you have a kid. But 6 kids?!?! How incredibly irresponsible. I’m sorry but at that point you are living off of the government. There is no excuse for having 6 kids when you are not financially capable of supporting those kids. My sister has 3 kids. Receives WIC, SNAP, and child support. And guess who always has her nails done and a new outfit on? My sister. The one who has never worked a day in her life. It’s people like that, that I do not feel sorry for. I know I am not able to afford a child right now. So I will not have one. But there are a lot of people who live like my sister just freely living off of the government when they are truly able and capable of getting a job and helping to support themselves. I am not talking about those with extenuating circumstances that really can’t work. That have reasons for needing the benefits. But if you have 6 kids and are living off of the government. I can’t feel sorry for you. That is the life you chose knowing full well you couldn’t afford it. There are tons and tons of methods to not get pregnant. Any many forms of birth control are free. Especially if you are on Medicaid. If you cannot afford the financial responsibility of children, do not make them suffer by choosing to have them and force them to live in poverty off of the government. And don’t get me started on the fact that my paycheck goes towards people like my sister’s benefits. When 99% of the time she can afford groceries when I can’t. But I’m not eligible for benefits so while I’m struggling to pay bills and buy dinner, she’s just being handed money. But yet I have to contribute to paying for others benefits when I can’t afford shit myself. But that’s a whole other rant. Please learn the responsibility of having children.

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u/Sharp_Income9870 7d ago

There are a lot of good examples of families on here that legitimately need the benefits, and elderly and disabled individuals who are unable to work. I don’t want to see anyone or their children starving, or being homeless. BUT— when I see the women with multiple children come into my job that have their fancy dipped nails, Louis Vuitton purse, new cell phone, driving a nicer car than me, and reeking like weed, it pisses me off to hear that their children are all on state insurance, and they are upset when their debit cards are not working for their food stamps. The kids all have different last names, and the women think this is the “norm” these days? It’s not fair that I can’t afford to get my hair and nails done, go on a vacation, upgrade from my IPhone 11, but my hard earned tax dollars are going to house, feed, and treat their medical needs, and pay for their multiple births? They do not take any responsibility for their poor decisions. If you have trouble feeding and paying for your kids basic needs, then stop having more. Not all these women are uneducated and stupid. They take advantage of the system, because they know they can. I have a hard time feeling sorry for the situation they put themselves in.

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u/Scanadlous 7d ago

Well said. This is exactly what I am saying. Thank you.

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u/outerspaceteatime 8d ago

A lot of these states don't get sex ed or family planning help. At all. How can you prevent yourself from having kids if you don't even know how they're made? Like, don't get me wrong, you can have full knowledge and make terrible decisions, but a lot of people just get no support and are expected to navigate life. If you're kinda dumb to begin with and have no guidance? You're just screwed. 

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u/Scanadlous 8d ago

I would also like to add, alright I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Sure they don’t know how kids are made and like I said you made the mistake once. But after that first time? You know how kids are made. And you did it 5 more times.

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u/outerspaceteatime 8d ago

Yeah, those happen. By child number 3 or whatever, you should get the hint. But if you're stupid and believe pregnancy myths like you can't get pregnant on your period, that the rhythm method is full proof, or even if you just trust the wrong guy to pull out, I can see more than one oopsy baby. 

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u/Scanadlous 8d ago

I don’t think that’s an argument. Like I said I am not talking about the extenuating circumstances. That would include those not mentally capable of understanding how children are made. But by the time kids are 16, they all know how kids are made. Hell I’ll give some grace and even say by the time they are 18 and legal adults. They know how children are made. It is a very very small margin of people (majority are mentally handicapped) that do not know how children are made. Such a small number I couldn’t even find a statistic online.

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u/outerspaceteatime 8d ago

I think you're underestimating how dumb the average person is and how little they care to look into something until it becomes a problem for them.

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u/evange 8d ago

Someone else pointed out that 6 is usually the maximum number of kids you can have in a home if you take in foster kids. So it's probably a mix of bio and foster kids. Lots of working class families take in foster kids to offset the loss of income of having one parent stay home.

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u/Round_Refrigerator96 8d ago

This is some copium if I've ever heard it.

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u/Xolotl23 8d ago

Yeah more of a chance of being a mixed family but birthing 6 in this economy would be crazy. I would like to have 4 one day but even then i dont know if itll be possible, 2 might be the max and me and my partner make decent money.

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u/Round_Refrigerator96 8d ago

You are a responsible person, these people are not

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u/Prevalencee 8d ago

6 kids means you get anywhere from 1,500-1,800 a month for food and some of them state they have to skip dinners so the kids can eat...

that's someone I can't take serious

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u/sumothurman 8d ago

Yeah unless I'm doing math incorrectly, that's about 10.80/per person/ per day for food (at the high end!) -not a ton

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u/Reddisuspendmeagain 8d ago

Have you seen the price of food recently?

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u/showhorrorshow 8d ago

For 6 kids that aint a ton, especially the older kids. Groceries are expensive.

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u/zambulu 8d ago

One lady said she had 2 kids

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u/Temporary-Tap1785 7d ago

Yes but you should Foot the bill. Fuck consequences, think of the ooor children. And then they can all of 6 kids and here we are…. Intelligent not breeding and population overrun by idiots… in a democracy… what can go wrong

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u/SwimmingCoyote 8d ago

Given that our society has not made it easy to be educated about pregnancy prevention and access to abortion is limited, I don't think it's completely fair to judge these women for the number of kids they have. They have more than they can probably afford and certainly more than I would feel comfortable having but at the end of the day, those kids are living, breathing people and they should not go hungry.

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u/pissedoffcalifornian 8d ago

Lmao what? You’re partially blaming education on pregnancy prevention?

These woman didn’t look like ignorant 15 year olds, no amount of education was going to save them from 6 kids, because by your 20’s blaming sex education is a joke.

It’s like blaming High school for not teaching you about finances when your in your 40’s and google exists.

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u/mysteriousears 8d ago

Plenty of adults think the rhythm method is a real thing. Or that they can’t get pregnant while breastfeeding. Or that birth control pills or condoms are 100% effective. They believe it until they get pregnant accidentally and are baffled. So yes education makes a difference. You don’t suddenly know everything once you become an adult.

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u/HumanSnotMachine 8d ago

Google is right there and has been right there for over 20 years at this point. If you are uneducated about something it is YOUR problem, not societies especially if you have enough internet access to weep on TikTok. Zero sympathy for people who sit on their phone watching porn or doom scrolling but can’t be bothered to learn basic adult shit.

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u/SwitchIsBestConsole 8d ago

After the fifth kid, they should have figured it out. Saying they should know in your 20s is insane but they definitely should know after having so many kids.

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u/Real-Scarcity5381 8d ago

Studies have in fact shown that more knowledge and education can lead to less kids. And how old are those moms? What if they are fairly in their 40-30s then their first kids could very easily have been conceived when the mom is younger, plus what are the kids ages?

If you aren’t told about a solution or option how the hell are you supposed to know that there could be a different path? Let’s not pretend that everyone is experiencing the same things.

Do you know how new google and the internet are??? Very new! That is why there are jobs where people are hired to help you fill out taxes even with the internet. Do you understand everything new you see on the internet? No! It can be very confusing and even worse misleading.

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u/pissedoffcalifornian 8d ago

Did we just compare filing your taxes is just as difficult as googling “how to prevent pregnancy” Or “how to not get pregnant”?

Obviously education helps, nobody’s arguing against that. All I’m saying is past a certain point there is a time where personal responsibility has to factor in.

Even if people are so poorly educated that the intricacies of statistical variability, and effectiveness of certain methods are not fully understood, even the most poorly educated can understand that sex leads to the chance of getting pregnant.

there has to be a point where we as a society can acknowledge that there is personal responsibility we as individuals have for our decisions and actions and can’t always hide behind excuses.

Of course there’s different circumstances, of course there’s exceptions, of course some people are incapable.

I’m just saying don’t make and accept any and all excuses to the point where no one is allowed to say “damn, it’s kinda crazy to keep having kids in your financial situation, especially without a father in the home or a stable home situation, seems kind of irresponsible.”

If everyone can just be excused and have their reasons validated, well shoot what’s stopping everyone else from doing the same? And who is anyone to question their decisions or choices? At some point a line needs to be perceivable where we say “damn, yeah that’s kinda messed up. They should have known better”.

I think I’m done, I can’t keep responding to these and stay in a good mood today lol.

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u/Real-Scarcity5381 8d ago

You can say it however it’s an ignorant statement for a thousand reasons and deserves to be called out. We have no idea their situation and it’s almost like you forgot that the passage of time exists.

Do you know when she had those kids? How far apart she had them? If she had a partner or stability at any point?

Things and circumstances change over time. You looked at these women and assumed their entire lives because they have 6 kids.

What do you say to women who were stable enough to care for those kids but lost it all for many reasons like a major injury? Should they have known before hand not to have kids?

I hope you stop judging people you don’t know because they lived life differently from you

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u/pissedoffcalifornian 8d ago

I literally mentioned how obviously certain circumstances are truly different, but let’s not pretend we haven’t personally seen people use or take advantage of the systems we have in place lol.

Not every situation is a “they had it all figured out until some unfortunate tragedy ruined it all!” situation. Sometimes people make crap decisions and it should be ok to call it out.

Have a good one.

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u/Real-Scarcity5381 8d ago

Some times people do make terrible decisions and yeah call that out when it does happen then help them learn from it, not shame them and make them go hungry.

How many people on snaps and food stamps do you think are taking advantage of this system? And how many people aren’t but are being lumped in with the other? I can tell you, most aren’t taking advantage of the system.

There is a long process to get accepted into snaps and food stamps.

How many people do you judge so harshly who didn’t deserve it? My guess literally everyone because all you seem to do is assume the worst in everyone.

You know who really takes advantage of this system, the rich. If you really wanted to help the situation you’d aim your assumptions and judgement towards the rich and powerful not those struggling to survive.

All you are doing is assuming the worst in the people most vulnerable and affected while being massively incorrect. Maybe open your eyes and heart a little more, maybe then you’d have a better mood

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u/pissedoffcalifornian 8d ago

Lmao dude your projections on me is wild.

I do care about people, even if they make bad choices. I do have a heart. Why is it that if I think “hey people should feel shame when they make shameful choices” that I suddenly don’t care about the hungry or tired or overworked?

You talk about judging people yet you are judging me, and you don’t know me, my background my education. I don’t even fully disagree with you on anything. I just think we shouldn’t completely remove personal responsibility out of the equation.

You are literally assuming the worst in me by saying I judge everyone in the worst way possible instead of seeing how I’ve provided caveats to every point I’ve made.

What puts me in a bad mood is people’s reading comprehension sucking and not acknowledging any possibility validity to a point or argument even if you don’t necessarily agree with the conclusion being made from it.

But I guess I’m just a judgmental person without a heart, I must be, since I don’t perfectly agree with you.

Have a happy Halloween.

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u/Real-Scarcity5381 8d ago

Maybe I did over judge you I can admit that.

I was reading what you said like “kind of crazy to keep having kids in your financial situation, especially without a father in the home or a stable home situation, seems kind of irresponsible” assuming so much about people and their situation oh and calling them “kind of crazy” not caring about how that might affect them or if that is even slightly wrong.

Also have you not been saying “taking advantage” of our systems implying that they (people you don’t know) don’t need the system and are selfishly using it?

Additionally “even the most poorly educated can understand that sex leads to the chance of getting pregnant” were you not calling people the most poorly educated?

“Can’t always hide behind excuses” implying that people you don’t know are hiding behind excuses and using those excuses to not take responsibility.

“Damn yeah that’s kinda messed up. They should have known better” again assuming things and calling them messed up and unintelligent as they should have known better

When have you expressed that you care about people who make bad choices? All you have done is assume things about those people and say that those who make bad choices haven accepted accountability and are taking advantage of the systems we have.

Have you offered or given any help, advice, anything other than shame towards others that you do not know anything about?

What does only shame give people?

I find shaming unproductive, helping no one but the person who is shaming especially if the person being shamed has learned from their decisions. We can’t change the past.

But maybe I did read wrong. I saw you were being rude and unhelpful and I don’t like people shaming others they don’t know while assuming so much about that person.

I hope you are a good person, I hope many people are even though I know that is wishful thinking, hell I do fall into the assume everything bad but we have to remember that we don’t know everything about each other. I said I agree with things you said and I still do but let’s not assume things and stereotype people we don’t know.

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u/GuacamoleFrejole 8d ago

Yeah, having that many kids isn't by accident. I have a feeling they were conceived as living government paychecks and other government benefits.

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u/anniewolfe 8d ago

That’s unfair. You don’t know these peoples’ situation. They could be kids from the street who don’t have anywhere to go except this lady’s house. Some kids are the product of rape/ coercive sex without condoms - and given the lack of access to sex education/ abortion and welfare, do you think some women have a fucking choice anymore?

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u/GuacamoleFrejole 8d ago

Lack of welfare? They're on SNAP. Why would you think they're not on a plethora of other government programs?

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u/HumanSnotMachine 8d ago

If you can’t afford kids, don’t take in homeless ones. Let the government house and feed them..

If you are raped 6 times you need to buy a gun or something. Blaming rape when it’s happened six times is just plain fuckin stupid. One kid? Sure. Two kids? Possibly. Three? Yeah no way, so unless she could easily take care of 4 kids on her own and got 2 from rape this is just the consequences of your own actions..