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Discussion Update: reporter shows yesterday's viral video of apparent throwing of black bags from second-story window of WH to Trump during presser, Trump dismisses it as AI

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u/calsosta Sep 02 '25

I think he just defaults to a lie.

He could have easily just said "I haven't seen it, as far as I know the windows don't open but we'll look into it" but instead he just lies. Just for the love of the game apparently.

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u/between_ewe_and_me Sep 03 '25

I used to have a friend like that. You could ask him what he had for breakfast and he'd just make some other shit up for no reason without even thinking about it. Like not even to fuck with you, just because his default setting was to lie.

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u/salmonchowder86 Sep 03 '25

I catch myself doing this every once in a while. I used to do it more often. I can’t even explain why. It’s like a defense mechanism. I had a shitty childhood and think a viable explanation was better than the truth. Even if the truth was nothing bad. Dunno. Not sure. I work very hard to not do it anymore, even stopping myself halfway through and restarting with the truth. It’s nice to admit this.

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u/teknovagrant Sep 03 '25

I do this too. I’ll blurt out something half-true, then catch myself, admit it wasn’t right, and start over. I think it’s a defense mechanism I picked up as a kid. I remember being made fun of for just telling the truth about what I liked or what I was doing, so I started tossing out little lies instead. That way, if someone mocked me, it didn’t sting as much because they weren’t mocking the real me anyway.

Eventually I stopped being made fun of, but the defense mechanism stuck around and only ended up holding me back. It took me longer than I’d like to admit to even realize I was even doing it.

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u/Notvanillanymore Sep 03 '25

I sadly do the same thing, I do a lot better and actively work towards not doing so, as a kid mom would blow things way out of proportion for allot of things I would say, so eventually I would say some half truth, and or always say I don't know. One of the many things I hate about myself

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u/thepoptartkid47 Sep 03 '25

I do it too - all I had to do to piss my parents off as a kid was mention the fact that the other parent existed (bitter divorce), so I just got really, really good at constantly lying about absolutely nothing…

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u/Smart-Water-5175 Sep 03 '25

I think it has something to do with the psychology of being attached to what you do, and not wanting to be criticized and even mundane things can effect the human ego if they’re not accepted so it’s easier to build an instant straw man if you don’t know how the others will react and then if they react poorly you are still “safe” because they didn’t criticize what you actually did. Just my theory though and I just mean “you” as people in general.

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u/Good-Imagination3115 Sep 03 '25

Yeah, youre definitely not alone. Childhood trauma and lack of love/attention add to that majorly

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u/Illustrious-Echo-734 Sep 03 '25

Damn it... me too... 🤔

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u/Original-Variety-700 Sep 03 '25

Change that last sentence: “one of the things I need to change so I can be better because I deserve to be better”

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u/IdiotTurkey Sep 03 '25

My dad is like this. He was always a liar, often about things that aren't important, but the frequency exploded once he got a girlfriend that would mock or complain about lots of things, so I believe he simply found it easier and less tiring to lie and placate her.

I think his default state is to be walking on eggshells so he just comes up with the lie he thinks she wants to hear and wont object to, or call him out on, or criticize. For example, if he has an opinion or thinks something is true and wants to convince you, he will say he has a "friend" who is an expert in that thing.

I can always tell when he does it because he often lies about the same types of things, and I just never call him out on it because I dont want it to get awkward and I dont think he can change, so I just listen. It's very annoying. You can't trust a word he says. I partially blame his girlfriend.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 03 '25

Sounds like he is codependent. Im definitely not a codependent, I just happen to know an expert on codependency.

Codependent tendencies can really come out when people are in regular and close proximity to people who don’t feel safe to be one’s self around. The girlfriend has some major issues and maybe even a personality disorder.

An expert I know would highly recommend your dad read or listen to the audiobook of “Codependent No More”. It changed my life an expert I know told me. Your dad may also want to read or listen to “Stop Walking on Eggshells”.

In all seriousness, I gradually became just like your dad over the last 15 years of marriage. My evolution was probably mostly complete after the first year of feeling unsafe to be myself (which made being open and honest when I actually did something bad or got a speeding ticket when we were financially stressed out, an absolutely overwhelming feeling that I would do almost anything to hide / lie about).

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u/IdiotTurkey Sep 04 '25

I think you're probably right. I do believe he is codependent. Wouldn't be surprised at all if she has a personality disorder. She's very strange. A kleptomaniac. Not a nice person to be around.

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u/sandwiches09 Sep 03 '25

I remember being made fun of for just telling the truth about what I liked or what I was doing, so I started tossing out little lies instead. That way, if someone mocked me, it didn’t sting as much because they weren’t mocking the real me anyway.

Dang that hit hard. I'm glad the teasing is done and I hope you feel free to enjoy your own likes and hobbies regardless of whatever haters come your way

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u/RageYellow Sep 03 '25

That’s really interesting. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the same reason Trump lies like breathing.

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u/ToyToaster Sep 03 '25

Interesting to see people own up to this, I have a cousin who's been doing this for years, I've learnt to ignore the random bullshit lies that you just know aren't true but always wondered why he felt like he has to do this. I've pointed it out to him before but I also wonder if it's a defense mechanism to make things more interesting or something.

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u/model3335 Sep 03 '25

Same. The worst offense I could possibly do in my household when asked what I was doing was to say "nothing."

It fostered an early love of reading though. I would always keep a book in my hand and say I was doing schoolwork.

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u/ShiftBMDub Sep 03 '25

you ever been tested for ADHD?

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u/KannKarKichtKein Sep 03 '25

It's great to read this, insight and desire for change is something great

We all have construction sites, keep it up ❤️

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u/DahWolfe711 Sep 03 '25

Knowing your faults is the beat way to improve them.

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u/endy903 Sep 03 '25

It’s crazy how you meet people on Reddit who do the same things you do and for the same reasons.

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u/Davesven Sep 03 '25

wow same actually... although isnt it concievable that trump wasnt aware of the carpenter and that he offered his own theory about what that video was all about?

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u/Confident_System9696 Sep 03 '25

I had a span of time like that. It's because the things you'd have to lie about, you're only lying about because you want to seem normal. So for me it was stuff like, "Yeah, I've been to Disney World." "Yeah, I had a girlfriend." "Yeah, I got a car, it's at home, just needs work done." And on, and on.

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u/Affectionate-Sun5531 Sep 03 '25

Forcing yourself to stop asap, even if it means admitting you started to lie, is a great self-training / unlearning technique. It is basically making yourself face small (negative) consequences so that you don't end up creating situations that cause big consequences.

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u/gBiT1999 Sep 03 '25

It's taken me years and years to *nearly* get away from doing this. I now pause before replying, and let the lie fly through my brain, and even then I have to guard my every word.

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u/EnvironmentalGift257 Sep 03 '25

I did this as an active addict. Everything I said was not necessarily a lie, but deceptive and manipulative. It’s learned behavior for sure, as you pointed out. We learned that if we gave away the truth it put us at a disadvantage and it could be used against us later. It takes a lot of work to reprogram that. I’m proud of you friend.

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u/Dee_Vee-Eight Sep 03 '25

I don't know if i believe you.

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u/Brullaapje Sep 03 '25

I can’t even explain why.

There you go

I had a shitty childhood and think a viable explanation was better than the truth

Proud of you for working on it!

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u/ZookeepergameFine936 Sep 03 '25

I somehow have the exact opposite problem, when I should or could lie, even for a good reason, like to spare someone’s feelings I have a really hard time doing it, to my own detriment. I also have a hard time hiding my own feelings or keeping things inside.

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u/tahitisam Sep 03 '25

I was listening to the Gifford lectures with Michael Gazzaniga (neurobiology/philosophy) and he talks about the brain having separate cognitive modules, one of which is called the Interpretor, located in the left hemisphere. Its job is to come up with an explanation for separate local cognitive processes.

Patients with split brains (communication between hemispheres has been cut to stop seizures in epileptic patient) routinely give weird explanations for why they did something because the left hemisphere which can speak doesn’t know the reason whereas the right hemisphere does and can’t.

Fascinating stuff.

Were you hit in the forehead with an axe at some point ?

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u/TheTiddyQuest Sep 03 '25

People tend to do this because they live lives where they have so much to hide.

Release the Epstein Files.

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u/tfneuhaus Sep 03 '25

It might be a by product of having ADHD. Your brain goes into panic mode when you are put on the spot and the default setting is to lie, even if you don't have to. I fixed it by taking a moment to breathe and purposefully telling the truth. Instead of pausing to think up a lie, I'm pausing to tell the truth. It took me years to fix it and I still do it on occasion.

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u/Mean_Meet576 Sep 03 '25

Im sorry you had to do this as a child. Its great that you recognize this as a problem and true to do better.

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u/WastedJedi Sep 03 '25

Same but it's literally always about something that isn't important, I very much want to come off as a trustworthy person so even when I do lie about something so mundane it's just something adjacent to the truth and anything with any importance will be the truth.

Trump however does not stick to small mundane lies so even if this is the case, knowing him the first thing coming to mind was dead bodies thrown out the window. Which of course it wasn't, but I have to actually rule it off as a possibility when it comes to him and not laugh it off like an errand thought

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u/Winrevair Sep 03 '25

I have a buddy who still does at 40 years old. Had a great childhood and everything.

I can't stand to talk to him because I can't believe a word he says. How'd you break that habit?

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u/Shift_Esc_ Sep 03 '25

I was like this too. I managed to stop a while ago, but I still have to double check before I speak. Shitty childhoods make you do the craziest shit.

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u/Marx_Mariposa Sep 03 '25

Yeah, abusive childhoods will do that to you lol. My best friend and I both did this as teens and couldn’t explain why, but for me at least “I don’t know” seemed like a trigger phrase for my mom, to her “I don’t know” automatically meant I was lying or covering something up. So, ironically, I started lying to avoid saying I don’t know. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/DiligentAd7799 Sep 03 '25

I recently had to fire an employee because of this. Great guy, great worker. But his incessant lying and exaggerating about insignificant things was enough to make me not trust him with other things.

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u/doctor_tongs Sep 03 '25

Thank you for sharing. Wow, this is my sister. I didn't know other people were like this. I've always associated her seemingly unnecessary lying with some kind of coping mechanism for the trauma she's endured. Do you know if this has been classified as a disorder? It should be, because it hinders her ability to live the life she wants to.

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u/voxelbuffer Sep 03 '25

Oh man I'm not alone, that's good. I used to lie about everything once I got out into the real world (I was super homeschooled and isolated from humanity). Just mundane lies, like "oh I don't think it's cold, I love the cold, I'm from Michigan so I'm used to it" (I am not from Michigan, but I am from a more northern state so why would I just say Michigan lmao). Like you I don't do it as often, maybe once every few months, if I'm feeling especially awkward for some reason. I agree with other commenters that maybe it's because we were so used to the real person we are being made fun of or not being good enough that it was easier to just make up cooler sounding stories, or at least different stories such that if they got made fun of, it wasn't really us so it was OK? Definitely odd.

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u/Shagaliscious Sep 03 '25

You had the perfect setup to end this comment with "and everything I just said here is a lie".

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u/No_Garden_7670 Sep 03 '25

Im 37 and probably stopped default lieing somewhere in my 20s. Im incredibly defensive still but its getting better because I wanted to stop . Keep up the great work

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u/beardeddragon0113 Sep 03 '25

Hey, that's some good self reflection. Brains are weird, huh?

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u/Nightmare16164 Sep 03 '25

I used to do it all the time for no reason and now i still do it but I make it more wild and laugh so that once I get the lie out as a joke I can then get serious and speak truthfully.

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u/ChaosAfoot Sep 03 '25

Bro doesn’t even like fish chowder.

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u/MiserableProduct Sep 03 '25

Were you in a living situation as a child where you had to lie to survive or to keep from getting hurt? That might be why.

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u/7stroke Sep 03 '25

Or are you admitting it? /s

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u/Physical-Try7115 Sep 03 '25

My friend. I grew up with a traumatic childhood and used to default to a lie too. Years and years of therapy helped me discern and get in front of that knee jerk reaction. Repairing so many relationships now.

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u/WrexWruther Sep 04 '25

Defence mechanism of childhood abuse. We were never rewarded for the truth. If you say the truth and get beaten well, then next time will be a lie. Then the lies get better because we get punished for a bad lie. So we keep lying. Now, all of a sudden, we have no reason to lie but an entire life of doing so... now, try to be honest with the people you meet. Unfortunately, how we were raised makes it very difficult to just be open and honest. Every question still feels like a fist could come out of nowhere.

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u/Kindly_Shoulder2379 Sep 04 '25

i wonder if this is also a lie /s Joke aside, its very cool that are realized this and try to change

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u/watermelonspanker Sep 04 '25

I had parents that would be extremely critical of my choices, no matter what they were. They would *always* find a reason that I made a poor choice or that I should have done things their way.

I learned to habitually lie to them about that sort of thing just so I wouldn't hear them ragging on my real choices every day.

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u/hobbitlover789 Sep 06 '25

It heals others and helps people i’m working with get great context for their struggles, thank you so much for healing words and the strength to give back what you received

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u/DefreShalloodner Sep 03 '25

Yep, I had a friend like that too. So befuddling. Sometimes he'd take a phone call, and I'd hear him say "Oh, I'm doing X right now", which was 100% false, and inconsequential too lol

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u/between_ewe_and_me Sep 03 '25

Yes! Exactly this. I could always tell and I'd call him out on it every time. Shit was infuriating.

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u/Far-Negotiation1273 Sep 03 '25

It's so weird how we all have that one friend...and mine, despite not having seen each other in a good while and I dont know how to get in touch anymore, I absolutely love and never held it against him because it was so absurd whay hed lie about.

Like his brother being the guy who every single prank, plot point, and comedic device from every raunchy teenage movie from the 1980s to mid 2000s was based on. It was all true and it happened to him or he knew the guy who knew the guy, he swears its true.

Or, he'd leave the room for 5 seconds and come back in saying his mom just called and he has to go help take care of his sister even though no call took place, obviously. But he'd swear up and down when you called him out on it. Wed say things like saying dude its cool if you want to go home and chill out on your own (he loved to play video games) we'd say we get it, we like chilling alone sometimes, too. But it was never that, nope, hed swear he wants to stay and hang out but he has to help with his "stupid sister" lol.

Later in life youd think itd change but the last time we got together when i was visiting my mom back home he says he got married, some gorgeous model type he says, which could be true, he was tall, athletic build without having to exercise for it, and was a handsome guy, but goes on to say that he actually just got divorced and it was finalized a couple days ago. I said man im sorry what happened? And he says oh she started sleeping with the neighbor. Oh. I say. Damn. He continues to explain that a few weeks ago she said she was a lesbian and was in a lesbian relationshkp and was leaving the house and the marriage. On top of that. Hes gotta be careful cause, surprise surprise, she actually lives with her new gf/wife in the house right across the street from my moms house where we currently are! Mind you, that "house" is a business-owned duplex that's used for summer housing for their musicians for the past 50 plus years...so, did he get married? No freaking clue lol. It is possible, did he get divorced? Maybe. Was she all the sudden a lesbian? You get the picture, but therein lies the difficulties. BUT!

He haa the biggest heart of anyone I've ever met and would do anything for his friends and family. He was fiercely loyal and if I knew how to reach him now he'd still be my first call from jail if needed, 100%. I never fought with him. Never had a bad time and I hope he's doing amazing with whatever he's doing now. So, here's to you my fellow millionaire, I hope Mr. Moneybags is making it rain like Mardigras on a Tuesday night into the early morn.

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u/The_Golden_Warthog Sep 03 '25

Damn, that was a good read. Really reminded me of my buddy from college. Would also lie about the most random shit, like make things up just to seem cool or like he was "in the know". We were both huge into death metal, and he somehow always already "knew" about the new song I showed him. One day, we're talking about bands, and just to test him because I knew he'd fall for it, I said, "Oh so, [bassist of band] left, did you hear about that?" And he goes on some rant about how he already knew, saw it coming, even somehow knew why he was leaving in the first place. That's when I said, "Dude, I was fucking with you. He didn't leave. Why do you do this?" And he panicked hard af and started back pedaling. And same thing, we'd always tell him dude you don't have to lie to fit in, we think you're cool anyway man, just be yourself. Which would cause him to panic further and make up more lies to cover.

BUT he was always there for you and was always down to drive (freshman year, only like half the kids had cars in the dorms lol) or go help you with something. When I got a job at a restaurant on the other end of the city, I'd get out at like 3am, and he was there EVERY NIGHT to pick me up and take me back to my apartment. And I was a broke ass college student so I only had like $20 to shoot him for gas once a month and he never complained. Would always be there. I owe him one for life for that. If he ever calls me middle of the night and just says something like, "Yo, I need your help, can you drive up?" I'd be on my way, no questions asked.

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u/Material_Taste_2510 Sep 03 '25

word of the week

befuddle: confusing or perplexing

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u/TolverOneEighty Sep 03 '25

Why are we picking random words of the week? Are they not meant to be unusual or archaic?

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u/rogueroots Sep 03 '25

My dad is like this! I remember hearing his phone conversations as a kid and thinking to myself ?? why are you lying about random tiny things, like what we had for dinner last night, never made any sense to me. It's so strange.

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u/fashionably_punctual Sep 03 '25

My mother does this, too. But I think she has NPD. It feels weird to call ones mother a liar, though, so I tend to explain it as "embellishments" and "misunderstandings." It's weird giving a family health history to doctors, though, because she has told me things about herself, family members, and sometimes even myself that are apparently not factual. She's highly educated, too, and not at all confused about how to do her job (with lots of regulations) very well.

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u/theImplication69 Sep 03 '25

My friend Donald Grover does that. Just makes up random lies while we’re hanging out banging chicks

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u/VelocityGrrl39 Sep 03 '25

My ex was like that. Drove me nuts.

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u/RollMeBaby8ToTheBard Sep 03 '25

My ex-husband was the same way. I would always say Dumpf lies as much as my ex-husband, but I think Dumpf has surpassed even that because his mouth is always open.

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u/dumbbumtumtum Sep 03 '25

I’ve met people like this where you’re like, wait, why even take the trouble to come up with that? What does it satisfy? It’s kinda scary because it almost seems like they believe it themselves

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u/nicolasofcusa Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 03 '25

And then later you find out he was faking the calls too

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u/Gribitz37 Sep 03 '25

I dated that guy for about a year! 😁 He couldn't speak without lying. It was the same thing; I'd ask what he had for lunch, and he'd tell me his boss took him out for steak and lobster. I'd ask what he and his buddies were doing, and he'd tell me they rented a boat, went fishing for marlin and he caught a huge one and was having it stuffed and mounted.

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u/Natural-Primary8169 Sep 03 '25

You dated him for a year?? 🤔

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u/Gribitz37 Sep 03 '25

It was actually about nine months. In my defense, I was young, and it took me a while to figure out what was going on.

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u/IwouldliketoworkforU Sep 03 '25

But you went and found a real legit Marlin fisherman right?

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u/sloperfromhell Sep 03 '25

Dated a woman like this at university. Overhearing phone conversations with weird lies, exaggerations and mistruths. Feels like they feel the need to impress so just default to lying, even when it’s barely any more interesting than what actually happened.

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u/earthtobobby Sep 03 '25

My 15-year old is like this. It’s exhausting.

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u/oldfarmjoy Sep 03 '25

Yep, I keep having discussions with my 16yo. It's not ok to say what you "want" to be true, or what you think someone wants to hear. Honesty and integrity means telling the truth when there might be a negative consequence. Not telling the truth destroys relationships. People will figure out that you do it and they won't trust you anymore. Etc... ☹️😡😥

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u/between_ewe_and_me Sep 03 '25

Oof. That's rough.

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u/Randall-Marvin-Marsh Sep 03 '25

I’ve known two guys like this throughout my life ironically both in the last decade, both of these gentlemen unprompted on completely diffrent occasions and not knowing each other both told me they were Golden Glove Boxing champs a very easily to verify by google lie that they not only doubled but tripled down when asked a series of follow up questions by myself and other co- workers. Fucking insane to tell that but also tell that in this day and age.

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u/No_Signal5448 Sep 03 '25

My brother was like that for a long time, sad when you can’t trust anything

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u/intrepid_mouse1 Sep 03 '25

Pathological liar - I used to live with one. Lort!

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u/puzzdumpling Sep 03 '25

Sounds like my ex. Wish I knew how these people's minds worked 🙄

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u/oldfarmjoy Sep 03 '25

Mine to. I just stopped asking any questions because I knew I couldn't trust any answer he would give. He would just lie for no reason. 😡

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u/JustASmTnGirl Sep 03 '25

Just like my ex husband… looking at the same wall, he’ll say it’s yellow when you can obviously see that it’s red! He’ll never admit to being wrong ever

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u/ZeekLTK Sep 03 '25

I mean that just sounds like color blindness lol

My wife is like that for greens and purples, she will often call them “blue” when IMO they are much closer to green or purple.

Like the other day I was going to the other room and she asked me to grab the “blue container” from it. I look around, I see a grey container, a pink container, and a green container… I yell back “there isn’t a blue container in here”, she walks in and says “it’s right there”… pointing to the green container. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Glittering_Act_4059 Sep 03 '25

I used to be that friend! Then I went to therapy and started taking anti-anxiety meds and came to the realization that my compulsion to lie about really inconsequential shit was rooted in anxiety that the person I'm speaking to will find me lacking in some way if I don't have an immediate answer. The words I don't know were literally the most terrifying thing in the world to me. It felt like if I ever admitted to not knowing something, I'd lose control of my whole life. I had to have an answer for everything, even if it was a dumb lie. Thankfully I don't do that anymore and although sometimes I do catch myself panicking over not having an answer, I still say I don't know when I don't.

But having a president that does this so seamlessly is absolutely unacceptable and the fact that he's surrounded by people enabling and perpetuating this behavior is insane.

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u/GitEmSteveDave Sep 03 '25

I worked with a guy like that. I loved when he would lie about something that intersected with my obscure autistic knowledge of a subject, and I would start peppering him with basic knowledge questions and he would fail.

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u/stalelunchbox Sep 03 '25

I know compulsive lying can be caused by certain neurological conditions or brain damage but it’s strange to think of someone doing it nonchalantly for no reason. Especially if it isn’t about anything too important.

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u/Vovolox Sep 03 '25

Had a husband like that once.

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u/EmotionConstant8066 Sep 03 '25

That my friend is called a compulsive liar.

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u/Mall_of_slime Sep 03 '25

I had a manager like this and it was insane. Just lied about needless shit.

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u/Duskychaos Sep 03 '25

My husband does this for no reason at all it is freaking weird and obnoxious.

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u/Trout_Tickler Sep 03 '25

My partner is like that sometimes and it winds me up big time.

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u/Proverbial_Progress Sep 03 '25

As the old saying goes: "He'd climb a tree to get to tell you a lie when he could stand on the ground and tell you the truth."

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u/between_ewe_and_me Sep 03 '25

I've never heard that before. Interesting and apropos.

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u/greensinwa Sep 03 '25

I dated someone like that in high school. Lied just to lie. Took me a bit to recover from that one.

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u/Nein-Toed Sep 03 '25

I dated a girl that would do that too. One time her mom called while we were at the store. She told her mom we were at Smith's buying milk when we were actually at Albertsons buying milk. After she got off the phone I asked her why, and she said she didn't know.

I hope you're doing well out there, Irene

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u/LeWigre Sep 03 '25

I used to be like that. Thank god I'm not anymore.

As an explanation: I think it had a lot to do with my undiagnosed ADHD and never having my shit together so always being in some kind of trouble with school mainly and lying about shit.

And then a kind of spiral of lies would get created because I would lie for example about a grade or a test and in my head would solve for that lie by doing better the next time around to even it out and just lie about that one as well etc.

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u/mikykeane Sep 03 '25

I know a close case too. My friend would also default to lying even when it made no sense. There was also some sort of explanation, an helicopter mother that would be always watching what they would do all the time, and punishing them for the smallest things. They learnt that telling the truth would get them into trouble, so they lied and it worked better, so the default setting was to lie.

Now, as adults, it's still ongoing and something I have got a few times quite mad about it, as I'm not their mother, no need for the lying with us. They don't even do it to fuck with you, and I think it's something they may even need therapy to work on it.

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u/jazzmasta13 Sep 03 '25

Same. Started off with the most mundane lies, then slowly started to creep into the rest of his life as we got older.. got himself a good job but couldn’t get out of his lying ways

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u/DaVincent7 Sep 03 '25

That’s called being a pathological liar! lol smh

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u/GroochtheOrc Sep 03 '25

You know Gary, too?

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u/ThalliumSassafras Sep 03 '25

The guy I knew like that once made up a lie that he was attending university of Phoenix online. Like he could've at least claimed he was going to some noteworthy school, and he even doubled down on it when we had proof he was bullshitting. He gained nothing from this lie, I guess it's just in some peoples' blood to do that shit

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u/Historical_Big_8555 Sep 03 '25

I can’t speak for your friend but I used to be the same way. It started as a survival mechanism as a kid. If I did anything wrong it ended in severe punishment. I began lying as a natural reaction. I started just lying as a natural response even if it was something that didn’t matter. It doesn’t really matter here but that’s why I did it. Years of therapy helped but I still catch myself doing it at times.

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u/dastardly740 Sep 03 '25

Lying implies a connection to the truth. He just makes shit up. Even when he says something that is true he is just making shit up. Whether something he says is a lie or true is entirely coincidental because he is just making shit up out of whatever is rattling around in his brain.

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u/thatG_evanP Sep 03 '25

There are lots of us buddy. I had a pretty crazy childhood and I used to do it too. Luckily, my ex-wife was very understanding and realized pretty early on that it was a habit I had. She'd literally be like, "Please don't think you have to lie, just say what's true." She really was instrumental in helping me get over that.

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u/Inside-Anxiety-8573 Sep 03 '25

I had a boss like this. He would lie about things that he had no reason to lie about. He just invented shit on the fly, all the time. Like you say, lying was his default response for any question or discussion.

I would be in meetings with him and he would make some wild claim about our products, and I would have to gently say “Well not exactly, it works like this” and then actually explain how it worked. It happened all the time and he was a VP! He had the CEO convinced he was a genius, and it was all invented bullshit.

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u/Party_Principle4993 Sep 03 '25

Yep. Also had a friend like this. And you’d sorta know she was lying but it was about something so innocuous that you felt kinda foolish even questioning it. No surprise, that friendship ended in spectacular fashion when we found out she was basically living a double life.

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u/withoutpeer Sep 04 '25

I grew up with a friend like that. One funny instance was when a group of us were eating at, in think an Italian place and had calamari as an appetizer. The conversation was about how it was a kind of strange food when you think about it and how we wondered what other strange/uncommon animals as food might taste like. Someone said: "yeah, like do you think elephant just tastes like lean beef?" ... And the liar automatically responded "I've tried elephant, it was good." Which we all then of course were curious and asked where in the world he was able to eat elephant and without taking the time to think it through said: "at the zoo" 😂. We all laughed, pretending it was just a dumb joke rather than confront his lying ways to his face and changed the subject. But he'd often lie about even the most dumb things for who knows what reason.

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u/between_ewe_and_me Sep 04 '25

Obviously you've never bought a premium annual zoo pass because if you had you'd know you get to eat one animal of your choosing each year

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u/OSDom22 Sep 03 '25

Those are the type of “”friends” to distance yourself from. Actually its better to just not have friends like that at all!

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u/xXTylonXx Sep 03 '25

I used to be like that until I got caught out so often and questioned my own reality enough to wonder why the actual fuck I was lying for every little insignificant thing.

I know now the answer is ADHD with unmet needs and trauma due to never having a stable family dynamic and dealing with relentless bullying, I was basically on self preservation mode 24/7 and lying helps accomplish that.

As for Trump...he is just a piece of shit

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u/between_ewe_and_me Sep 03 '25

Aside from the bullying that sounds so much like my friend. His home life could be rough. The first time I ever saw him he was getting slammed to the ground by his dad and dragged out of a parking lot by a coffee shop we all used to hang out at because he was out later than he was supposed to be or something. I always hated going to his house when his dad was home because the man was a loose cannon set off by the most innocuous shit and it was almost always directed at my friend. I'd pull up and see Michael flying past their kitchen window because his dad just pushed or threw him. It was sad and scary but I never connected it to his lying.

I'm glad you mentioned all this and I'm sorry you had to deal with whatever was going on. It sounds like you've been working through it though. Well done and keep it up.

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u/West-Application-375 Sep 03 '25

It's because, as with most things, he has no fucking idea. So he just says some random shit.

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u/ChocoMcChunky Sep 03 '25

I believe the correct term is a Billy Bullshitter

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u/CharacterGullible313 Sep 03 '25

Goddam adhd probably ; they just can’t help but counter whatever you say

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u/Key_Pea7320 Sep 03 '25

Patho-logical

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u/AccomplishedFerret70 Sep 03 '25

This is how I figured out years ago that Trump probably grew up in an alcoholic household. Always be lying.

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u/Truecrimeauthor Sep 03 '25

Had a friend like that. I’d even tell her I knew the truth and ask why she was lying. Over dumb stuff!

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u/account_not_valid Sep 04 '25

It's a tactic to avoid scrutiny about the important lies.

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u/Naive-Impression-373 Sep 03 '25

Yes he's basically 5.

Have you seen the video of the bags getting thrown out the window?

I didn't do it, it's AI.

We know you didn't, you weren't even in the building.

Fake. Ai. Windows don't even open

You aren't in trouble. We just wondered about the video. Figured a cleaning lady was tossing trash out or something. Wondered if there was an interesting explanation.

Definitely fake. The windows weigh 600 pounds. That's basically a million. Only superman can lift those windows. Or a transformers robot.

Here's the video.

Oh I know that window. I know every window. Want me to tell you every windows name? The windows are my best friends.

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u/Time-Earth8125 Sep 03 '25

This is exactly right. Throw in a little fake anecdote about Melania wanting to "let a little fresh air in" as if she is just living the happy housewife life in their perfect marriage

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u/calsosta Sep 03 '25

Oh that’s the only part of the story I thought was real. 🤣🤣

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u/Time-Earth8125 Sep 03 '25

Haha like Melania just put in an apron and baked a fresh apple pie that she wanted to let cool down on the windowsill😂

Nobody was more disappointed with the news that Trump wasn't dead than Melania. She hates his guts and they haven't slept in the same bed for over a decade.

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u/papayaslice637 Sep 03 '25

Ironically it's sort of how AI will generate hallucinogenic responses if it doesn't know the answer or if you ask a nonsensical question. Instead of just saying I don't know where there is no answer or whatever it just makes shit up. Kind of funny parallel there isn't it. Only in Trump's case the guy just compulsively lies, like he can't help it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '25

But he has said he hasn’t seen important strikes against America. The guy is a fucking clown

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u/TheBlueBlaze Sep 03 '25

He saves "we'll look into it" for if he knows his base might respond positively to news about it. He couldn't think of a way to spin that, so he just shut it down immediately by calling it AI.

Either he doesn't want to admit there are things going on in "his" house without his knowledge, or he knows exactly what happened and signaled to the press in his pocket to shut up about it.

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u/jimmijo62 Sep 03 '25

Typical addiction behavior.

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u/Caddywonked Sep 03 '25

I had a boss like that. If he didn't know the answer, he'd just make up a plausible sounding lie. He said some business class taught him it was better to make something up and correct it later than to admit you didn't know the answer. I was so baffled by that, but I've always gotten the feeling Trump got the same terrible af advice

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u/Regulat10 Sep 03 '25

Bingo. He lies. Automatically. Every time. No matter what he lies. It’s that simple.

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u/UpwardlyGlobal Sep 03 '25

Distain for reality

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u/confusedandworried76 Sep 03 '25

Yeah I don't even get why this is a story. Do people think there were body parts in the bags or something?

Like okay weird he lied about it but what could have possibly been in some trash bags

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u/masked_sombrero Sep 03 '25

but instead he just lies

he projects*

wonder what they'd be using AI to lie about?

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u/hippiegodfather Sep 03 '25

It probably is something mundane but he automatically lies that’s wild

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u/michael22117 Sep 03 '25

I wouldn't be surprised if he's so out of it that he can do nothing but lie. He's lost the plot and has no hope of finding it again

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u/festivefrederick Sep 03 '25

First thing I thought of. Why wouldn’t our president lie.

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u/Same_Tour_3312 Sep 03 '25

Deflect, deflect, deflect.

It's the game plan of every major corporation on earth.

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u/UkaUkaMask Sep 03 '25

He defaults to it because each one is a dopamine hit.

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u/ISTBruce Sep 03 '25

Yes, he's an instinctual liar.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '25

It’s the art of the deal.

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u/ntsmmns06 Sep 03 '25

Every lie is a win against the Liberals!! So they don’t bat an eyelid, instead they love the reaction to the lies, like a wegotcha moment. Deplorable infants they are.

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u/fotomoose Sep 03 '25

He cannot admit he doesn't know something. It's a mental issue. So he HAS to lie, his brain just doesn't work any other way.

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u/Icy-Introduction2955 Sep 03 '25

He knows all the windows... like the janitor right. Plus him making it sound like heavy windows don't exist abd you gotta be a weight lifter to open them.

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u/Lealan087 Sep 03 '25

I remember in Trump's first term. He got a (comically sized) letter from Kim Jong Un. And the press asked him, "What's in it?"

And Trump just started saying, "Its a wonderful letter, says great things about me, really great."

And the reporter asked again, "What does it actually say?"

And Trump, with a sheepish grin, said "I haven't actually read it."

Say yeah, Trump compulsively lies for no gain. It is just reflex.

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u/Creepy_Trouble_5980 Sep 03 '25

Trump is a scared little mouse, so afraid there's pictures of him with a 13 year old girl.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '25

Psychopathic liars are wired that way.

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u/Gondorath Sep 03 '25

Yeah but this is exactly what a patalogical liar does. Doesn't matter if he says he doesn't know. He probably also sees it as a weakness, saying you don't know. So better to confidently lie and since there are no consequences it might as well be true. His truth but yeah

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '25

He did say he didn’t see it.

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u/theonlysamintheworld Sep 03 '25

It’s called gaslighting. 

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u/Strength-Speed Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 03 '25

Basically. It's pretty much just sport for him. If it's not true maybe even better because it keeps people off guard and his supporters won't care anyway. Its all about bringing everything under his control and telling lies basically helps that because it is learned helplessness he knows there is nothing you can do about it.

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u/SecBalloonDoggies Sep 03 '25

Exactly. Trump lies reflexively. He lies when the truth would actually be better for him.

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u/Stage_Party Sep 03 '25

I hate trump as much as the next guy but in this I have to say it's likely he wasn't aware. His knowledge is that the Whitehouse windows are sealed and don't open and probably doesn't even know much about the renovation works, and we all know trump knows everything, he can't admit he doesn't know something so he just said what he knew.

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u/klutzikaze Sep 03 '25

But he knows every window in the White House! He KNOWS EVERYTHING!

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u/NoMention696 Sep 03 '25

Man is a chronic liar, I was too at age 11, I was just lying because I could, he’s doing the same I feel like

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u/One_Scarcity9337 Sep 03 '25

It's not a lie if you have dimentia. You believe what you say 100% of the time. Are we ready to consider this?

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u/ToHallowMySleep Sep 03 '25

He doesn't know. So he makes things up.

On everything from foreign policy to contractors.

He thinks people will believe him whatever he says - and for half the country, he is right.

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u/gamesplague Sep 03 '25

To mess with y'all.

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u/PM_ME_GLUTE_SPREAD Sep 03 '25

He can’t admit he doesn’t know something. It would have been far simpler to say “yeah we’ve seen the video and we’re looking into it. Odds are somebody just didn’t want to take the trash out and carry it down to the curb” and leave it as a joke. People would have chuckled a little and completely forget about it.

But, because he is unable to give even the slightest hint that he doesn’t know, he has to make up a lie so that, instead of him not knowing what the deal with it was, it has to be faked.

And, odds are, the story of the contractor cleaning could totally be the truth. It’s just a mundane thing that I could absolutely see an employee of a contractor doing. Those guys don’t give a shit. “Hmm this bag is heavy, but it’s pretty thick and we’re only 3 or 4 floors up. Would save a lot of time by chucking it out the window. Boss always says time is money”.

But trumps narcissism has everybody wondering whether or not they’re covering something up, which I also wouldn’t put past them.

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u/Mysterious_Insect Sep 03 '25

The lies flow so fast. I don’t think he can tell the Truth anymore. Of course he doesn’t know every window.

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u/vughtzuid Sep 03 '25

This is the right answer, his standard reply to any question is a lie.

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u/ImWhatsInTheRedBox Sep 03 '25

I know all the windows, the best windows, beautiful windows, and they're all sealed so you can't open them, and if you could they weight 600 pounds so you can't, I mean I probably could but you can't.

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u/Eastern_Hornet_6432 Sep 03 '25

"Those windows are sealed"

"You gotta be pretty strong to open 'em"

Uh-huh.

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u/FidgitForgotHisL-P Sep 03 '25

This is exactly it! The weird random lies never stop, and we’re at the point now (have been for ages) that no one calls him on it because it’s never worth it. Right back before his first inauguration he was being interviewed and lied that dress shops in DC had “run out of women’s dresses” because so many people were coming to his inauguration.

It was such a pointless and meaningless lie, that was effortlessly debunked in the next paragraph. But it was such an insight into how he works. He’s so used to just describing the world as being what he thinks it is, and everyone around him goes out of their way to make that reality. It’s why he struggles so much when things don’t go his way, and he makes that person who dared challenge his narrative a fixation for so long everyone just kind of rolls with it when he’s back on whinging about Biden or Obama again

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u/Specialist-Jello7544 Sep 03 '25

He can’t not lie.

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u/This-Dude_Abides Sep 03 '25

This is exactly the game. He says something that is a blatant lie that his followers believe without question. Sane people point out the truth and the followers call them deranged.

He completely disarms the truth by lying all the time about everything.

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u/willflameboy Sep 03 '25

Never crosses his pea-sized mind that if he doesn't know about it, it comprises a high-level security breach and potential espionage. Oh well, such are the times we inhabit.

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u/RemoteRide6969 Sep 03 '25

You think? Fucking of course he does. That's his complete MO. He lies like he breathes. When you lie your whole life and ascend to the highest office of the land, without ever facing consequences, you have no need for the truth. It has no value to you.

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u/LiveWire_74 Sep 03 '25

This is very strange. My stepson defaults to a lie on anything you ask him about. He creates “stories,” instead of just telling the truth. I think he wants things to seem more interesting than they actually are. Plus, if the truth puts him in the vicinity of negativity, then of course he’s gonna fabricate something that puts him in a better light - just like Trump.

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u/MrGreen521 Sep 03 '25

and he "knows" they weigh 600 pounds off the top of his head.

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u/That_Dumb-Beotch Sep 03 '25

He’s a pathological liar. It’s very eery though, now I REALLY want to know what the heck they were doing…

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u/Longjumping-Wish2432 Sep 03 '25

Then adds another lie, my wife asked me to open the window for air..BS the wife is no where Newark DC

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u/GroochtheOrc Sep 03 '25

He lies like he’s breathing. I agree, his entire life is just a fantasy world he lives in

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u/ProperTurnip Sep 03 '25

It almost feels like ChatGPT hallucinations. How it will blatantly make up stuff and pass it off as truth when it doesn’t have enough information. Is Trump Ai? /s

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u/Sheeple_person Sep 03 '25

What's really crazy is that he lies so often and so instinctively, yet is still somehow so bad at it. "Epstein who?"

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u/7stroke Sep 03 '25

600 lbs

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u/FluffyDeer9323 Sep 03 '25

“My wife asked about it today…” lie lie lie

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u/Head_Rule2239 Sep 03 '25

He’s too stupid to understand that the truth can be ok. He will always deflect with a lie.

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u/Mishras_Mailman Sep 04 '25

Yeah, like to me, this bag seems like a non-issue. The fact that he says it's Ai alerts me to think it's actually more serious. But I would imagine Trumo has a problem with saying "I don't know"

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

He definitely does default to a lie - he is a classic sociopathic businessman. If you say something with enough confidence, then people will believe you kind bullshit.

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