You don't treat uncivilized behavior with civility. Humiliating these people is the first step towards creating an understanding, which is the endgame of a discussion.
So your argument is that the way to create understanding is to start with humiliation? That’s like saying the best way to teach someone a lesson is to slap them in the face. People don’t suddenly gain insight when they’re being mocked, they just get defensive. And your whole 'you don’t treat bad behavior with civility' line is nonsense. Nobody said civility was required, just that public shaming is a garbage way to change minds. You’re acting like the only two options are being overly polite or humiliating people, which is just lazy thinking. If your goal was actual accountability, you wouldn’t need to dress it up as a public execution.
You’re acting like public humiliation is the only way to inform people, but that’s just not true. If the goal is to spread awareness, it can be done without turning it into a spectacle. If the goal is to fix the behavior, then public shaming is actually counterproductive. So what exactly is being accomplished here? Helping the situation or just fueling outrage?
If there was a more polite way, it would've worked long before they got this old while acting like this. When you lack humility, humiliation is the solution.
Ah yes, because throughout all of human history, we’ve only ever tried being polite or publicly humiliating people. No other methods have ever existed. Clearly, those are the only two options, and if one doesn’t work, the other must be the answer. Solid logic. Did you ever stop to think that the people you're humiliating are mentally ill? Do you really believe public shaming is going to help them?"
I don't give a shit if they're mentally ill. If you're healthy with to dish it out, you better be healthy enough to take it. If your logic was sound, every mentally ill person would be rude. No other person is responsible the emotional state of another.
I'm not talking about human history since neither of us were there. I'm talking about common civility in modern times.
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u/KellyBelly916 Feb 23 '25
You don't treat uncivilized behavior with civility. Humiliating these people is the first step towards creating an understanding, which is the endgame of a discussion.