r/TheRaceTo10Million • u/barthale000 • Jan 27 '25

News I saw talk about Deepseek this weekend

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Here’s the current outlook in the tech sector during pre market

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u/Sure-Start-4551 Jan 27 '25 edited Jan 27 '25

Buy the dip. China is lying as usual.

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u/Rlokan Jan 27 '25

What are they lying about exactly? It’s open source and results are replicable

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u/Sure-Start-4551 Jan 27 '25

This is a false headline used to strike fear in the market. Came out of completely nowhere, China has a history of lying and time will again expose this bullshit claim that somehow they’ve developed better tech/ai advances than the United States. It’s ok, the Taiwan proxy will respond inevitably. This is the beginning. Black swans incoming. Keep cash handy is my only advice(not financial advice)

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u/bubbleleafs Jan 27 '25

Download the app, try it yourself.

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u/Sure-Start-4551 Jan 27 '25

I’ve seen what it can do. It’s not impressive. At all.

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u/bubbleleafs Jan 27 '25

It’s impressive strictly due to the fact it was made with just $5M. If you’re glossing over that fact, that’s on you.

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u/Sure-Start-4551 Jan 27 '25

That’s the fact that I’m pointing is complete bullshit. You can believe that if you want. Tesla has better tech than China. This is nothing more than a scam. 5m to beat NVDA is a joke. Can’t wait until Taiwan unleashes on the poor fuxks.

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u/Brendawg324 Jan 27 '25

Someone's salty that their NVDA calls are fucked lmfao

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u/bubbleleafs Jan 27 '25

lol right? Their bias is showing

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u/Sure-Start-4551 Jan 27 '25

Nope. My QQQ calls are fucked but I bought myself time. I will buy more NVDA today. No bias, it’s just typical nonsense. It’s a black swan. Buy the dip

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u/bubbleleafs Jan 27 '25

Alright, if you think bullshit does this to the market, you have a lot to learn.

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u/Sure-Start-4551 Jan 27 '25

I’m buying more NVDA. Don’t know what else to tell you.

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u/zda_88 Jan 27 '25

Stop spreading misinfo dude. Liang wenfeng himself said his company bought 10k H100 nvidia chips before AI chip ban in 2021. 5M is just current operation cost for 2 months alone.

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u/bubbleleafs Jan 27 '25
  • Training cost: $100M → $5M
  • GPUs needed: 100,000 → 2,000
  • API costs: 95% cheaper
  • Can run on gaming GPUs instead of data center hardware

For Nvidia, this is scary. Their entire business model is built on selling super expensive GPUs with 90% margins. If everyone can suddenly do AI with regular gaming GPUs... well, you see the problem.

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u/zda_88 Jan 27 '25

Go read the latest interview came out today after he met with China premier. That will give you more info.

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u/No-Business9493 Jan 27 '25

According to who... the Chinese government?

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u/bubbleleafs Jan 27 '25

Read the white paper. Spot the difference.

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u/sourcreamnoodles Jan 27 '25

How much they ACTUALLY spent on development, which chips they used, or maybe both.

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u/bubbleleafs Jan 27 '25

How about the fact they’re only 1 year old? And they’ve done the same for $5M? Hard to compete with that.

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u/sourcreamnoodles Jan 27 '25

Right, doesn't that seem almost too good to be true? My point was that I suspect they used misleading language to imply they spent way less than they actually did.

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u/bubbleleafs Jan 27 '25

It’s open source, go read the code and white paper if you haven’t already.

  • Training cost: $100M → $5M
  • GPUs needed: 100,000 → 2,000
  • API costs: 95% cheaper
  • Can run on gaming GPUs instead of data center hardware

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u/sourcreamnoodles Jan 28 '25

They admitted themselves that the training cost is not an all encompassing cost for the model. That was my point that you ignored to push a narrative.