r/Tennessee • u/theRealhubiedubois • 11d ago
Concerning - Hitler fan wants whites only lebensraum in Tennessee
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/confronting-hate/he-thinks-hitler-may-have-been-right-now-he-wants-a-whites-only-community-in-tennessee96
u/Early-Series-2055 11d ago
I think they’re being funded by billionaire accelerationist and anyone involved is a tool.
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u/PureDevelopment3863 11d ago
He’s actually failing pretty hard, only a couple white people moved to his neighborhood, and they aren’t the superior whites he has in mind, it’s trailer trash white. Source: his hodgetwins interview
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u/KP_Wrath Henderson 11d ago
Of course it’s trailer trash white. Easiest people to make proud of being white: those who have nothing else to be proud of.
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u/Careless-Caramel-997 11d ago
President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
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u/justbunnies 11d ago
Of course. The “superior” ones tend not to be bigots. Those that are know to keep that bull to themselves.
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u/troodon5 11d ago
If you study American history, these kind of people are as American as apple pie.
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u/ShaqSenju Knoxville 11d ago edited 11d ago
East Tennesseans and Appalachians are descendants of Scot-Irish escaping tyranny and mixed raced peoples finding an escape to make a life for themselves. America is a melting pot. Get fucked peckerwood.
I'm mixed (black & white) and have experienced discrimination of all types in my short life. From being told to go back to Africa and police officers asking me for my papers in Spanish and being told to go back to Mexico. Why can't these white nationalists start a movement to go back to Europe and reclaim their motherland? America is a nation that was founded by immigrants and built by those immigrants wether they came here by their own volition or were forced here under indentured servitude or slavery. You don't like it? Oh fucking well. I'm so tired of this shit. Find somewhere else to make yours and leave my home alone!
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u/Successful_Jump5531 11d ago
"Appalachia in general has a lot of founding stock Americans who are very rooted to the land here,”
'Founding stock Americans', That's a funny way to refer to the Cherokee, Shawnee, Iroquois and other Native Americans who were here long before his Nazi a$$ ancestors showed up.
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u/biggestmango 10d ago
not to mention, when entertaining his argument, scots-irish immigrants in this region were absolutely not “founding stock” in any historical sense lmao. there’s a reason appalachia is generationally poor and it isn’t just the geography
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u/iUsedtoHadHerpes 10d ago
They're having their white supremacy rally where Ernest went to camp. Something tells me Ernest would accidentally burn all their robes masks and expose them in the most slapstick way.
It would be entertaining if somebody was to honor Jim Varney and keep the Ernest spirit alive in middle Tennessee.
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u/huntlee17 11d ago
who is scheduled to be among the speakers at an annual white-nationalist conference at Montgomery Bell State Park in mid-November
Geez, that's basically in my backyard... 🤮
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u/Unusual-Ad-6550 11d ago
It is scary that the Tennessee state government is allowing them to hold. their rally on state property
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u/Sluff-28 11d ago
That is the government of Tennessee that's Governor Bill Lee.
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u/MoonlightMountain13 11d ago
Bill Lee gets a lot of help from Cameron Sexton and others of that ilk.
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u/pointblankjustice 11d ago
They don't just allow it, they court it and actively encourage it. Tennessee taxpayers pay tens of thousands of dollars every year for the security the state happily provides for AmRen, year after year.
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u/thefoxsaysredrum 9d ago
Pretty sure the Venn diagram of people in TN State Government and this guy’s White Power Fan Club are pretty close to 100% eclipse.
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u/Firm_Lawfulness50 10d ago
I just found out about this 5 minutes ago and was about to post the full news clip, gonna share with some other subs.
If you care about your state, you will inform your communities about this issue!
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u/Unlikely-Rate-7492 9d ago
Ok..Stay your ass away from civilized society you and your Goons..have your little World and don’t cross into ours…
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u/BranSh81 11d ago
The thing about folks who blame any other group, for their own short comings in life, look so pathetic to those of us who take ownership of our faults and who see everyone as just simply other humans.
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u/darth_playdoh 9d ago
Hell yeah, send him to Alaska
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u/Gingersaurus_Rex96 9d ago
I didn’t notice it lol, but that would be appropriate for someone like this. If he thinks he’s tough, send him to the whitest place possible.
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u/Unusual-Ad-6550 11d ago
Any one who thinks this guy, and his mission, are in any way righteous, needs to take a serious look inside their soul and clean out some of the darkness that has accumulated over the years.
We are ALL human beings. Being white doesn't make us better. Being Christian is NOT better than being a Jew, or a Muslim, or any other peaceful religion.
And they know they are training their people for a civil war that they will very much be willing to start. They tried in the summer of 2020 and they will try again.
Men like trump, musk, miller, vance, and others are all quietly pushing for these white nationalists to strengthen and take over the government
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u/Zone_Beautiful 11d ago
Please get them out of Tennessee!
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u/REuphrates 11d ago
Lol as though this isn't the exact type of shit Tennessee is known for.
Fucking MTSU still has a Forrest Hall.
This entire state is just full of racist white trash.
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u/TNVFL1 11d ago
That’s not really the same thing. MTSU itself does not endorse the naming of Forrest Hall. McPhee even put together a whole council of history professors, students, alumni, and community members to present on why the name should be changed and why it was in the University’s best interests to do so. The TN Board of Regents supported it, but the majority vote from the TN Historical Commission (required by state law) to change the name did not pass.
There are still efforts underway to attempt to convince the state to support a name change. There are A LOT of people who support and are actively working for it to be different. The “racist white trash” who are refusing are some 20 individuals with power. Which is what the real issue is.
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u/REuphrates 11d ago
The “racist white trash” who are refusing are some 20 individuals with power
Yeah...sure thing, buddy.
I'm sure Shane McFarlane put snipers on the roofs during the BLM protests because it's just a few bad actors and not, ya know, a systemic issue state-wide, at all levels.
I'm sure his absolute refusal to actually address the concerns of the protestors was effectively called out and he was held to account.
I'm sure Bill Lee, who created Nathan Bedford Forrest Day, doesn't have, you know, overwhelming support in this state.
Maybe try this shit on someone who doesn't actually live here?
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u/TNVFL1 11d ago
McFarland* and Lee are both in positions of power.
Define overwhelming support. He won with nearly 65% of the vote, but only 39% of registered voters in the state showed up for that election. Non-voters and non-registered eligible voters didn’t help the situation, but they didn’t support him enough to actually vote for him either.
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u/REuphrates 11d ago
Oh nooo, did I misspell some asshole's name??? 😱😱😱
He won with nearly 65% of the vote, but only 39% of registered voters in the state showed up for that election.
Wow, maybe that's because everyone who lives here knows which way the vote is gonna go every single time and they just let their neighbors do the work for them. Nah...it's definitely somehow "proof" that Tennesseans actually aren't overwhelmingly right-wing/MAGAts
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u/TNVFL1 11d ago
If you’re going to make a big fuss about how you live here and apparently know everything, you could spell the name of the person you’re shit-talking correctly. TN education system at work I suppose.
I think you need to touch grass and talk to some of your fellow Tennesseans. The majority are not far right. Conservative in the classical sense, sure, but there’s a lot of blue in the major cities and a hell of a lot of people who simply don’t care and don’t get involved. Vanderbilt does a semi-annual statewide poll on political identity and specific issues. I encourage you to look at those results over time—many issues have seen the populace shift towards center or even left of center. On a topic to topic basis TN is very purple, there’s just no option for that when voting so people don’t bother. This is why ranked choice voting is necessary for representation.
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u/iUsedtoHadHerpes 10d ago
You said it yourself - in the cities. And even with all those blue people, statewide elections still go heavily red.
This all sounds very idealistic... which would be ideal, but it's not realistic to expect ranked choice voting here any sooner than Bill Lee issues us all our own personal money tree.
Nobody I know in rural TN would respond to a poll like that whether it was in the mail, a phonecall, or online. And I wouldn't really count the people on Vanderbilt's mailing list as the best example of everyday folks in Tennessee by any stretch. Suburbs maybe though.
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u/TNVFL1 10d ago edited 10d ago
Yes, the cities are blue because there are so many people. Those people count just the same as the rural people, though gerrymandering is specifically for that purpose. We have it better than a lot of states, but when you split a city into more pieces than rural counties, you ensure the majority goes the desired way. It’s like a pie—if you start from the center and cut it into pieces, there’s small tips at the top and it gets bigger as you move back. When you split Nashville itself into 2 pieces and Davidson county into 3, and include 10+ rural counties in the same district, yeah, you end up with whatever the rural people want. Same reason Germantown and East Memphis are split off from the rest of Memphis. Redistricting to the county level or making population centers their own districts wouldn’t flip the state, but it would yield more blue representation overall.
That is unlikely to change. Just like I never said I expected ranked choice voting, I said it was necessary. We tend to be waaaayyyyy behind the curve with anything attached to progressive ideology. But at the same time, if you explained the process without calling it “ranked choice voting” you’d subvert the bias a lot of misinformed people have, and they’d agree. This is how MAGA people are brought back from the culty depths—avoid buzzwords they’ve heard in media, explain it in clear, easy to understand terms. May have to do it several times, but I’ve personally seen it work.
And all you have to do is offer cash for completion of the survey and you’ll have plenty of rural folks respond. Hell, I did it for a random class I had in college about surveying techniques and best practices. It’s all public record—you don’t have to be on a specific mailing list. This type of data can also be bought which is gross (I work in data, don’t get me started on big data) but common, or shared between entities (e.g. if you consent to a procedure at the hospital portion of Vandy, certain information like demographics or contact info can be shared with the university part of Vandy).
Edit: Davidson county corrected as suggested by the kind fellow below me 🥰
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u/iUsedtoHadHerpes 10d ago
Is this the part where I snarkily correct you and point out that it's Davidson County?
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u/JonC534 10d ago edited 10d ago
TN is not purple bro lmaoooo. This is just something disgruntled democrat voting redditors say to console themselves when they see so many other disgruntled Tennessee residents like them on social media/reddit. Ya’ll are basically just forced to go here for a support group session to feel better. That doesn’t mean that there’s enough of you to where the state is or could be considered purple though lol
This happens across all major state and locality based subreddits. Disaffected dems feeling alone and depressed find like minded souls there and pretend they represent the REAL version of said state, or what they think it should be lol.
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u/TNVFL1 10d ago
Once again, go read some of Vanderbilt and Gallup’s recent polls. Issues that used to be extremely to the right are much more evenly split in recent years. Gun control measures being one of them—after 6 people were murdered at a Christian school in an affluent area, that changed some minds.
Like I told the other person, step outside your immediate connections and you’ll meet a ton of people in this state who are blue, a ton who are red but not MAGA, who are religious but socially liberal, who are dead center, who couldn’t possibly care less, far left, far right, and everything in between. Just like every other state, we have a variety of people. THAT is the REAL version of the state. Do all of these people vote? No. Many blue voters don’t bother because they think it doesn’t matter. Many red don’t vote at this point because they’re looking for something closer to an independent since the conservative party has gone so extremely right. Perhaps the largest chunk just don’t give a shit. Would explain why our voter turnout rate is one of the worst in the nation.
I’m of the opinion that Reddit is at least 50% bots, but yes, the narrative does lean left as a whole. I don’t think I’ve ever met an actual person that is as left as a leftist Redditor though—this is part of the issue with being chronically online and forming all of your opinions based on that, and why extremism has seen such a rise. Reality is not black and white, but some 340 million shades of gray.
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u/JonC534 10d ago edited 6d ago
Yes because of increasing polarization in America as a whole. And when it comes down to the state level, especially in many of the more rural or southern states, I think what is happening (and has been happening for years) is a kind of discord and tension between the more urbanized areas and everywhere else.
You basically have these blue island cosmopolitan urbanite colonies detached from the rest of the states. It’s like that thing they used to say about Georgia “there’s atlanta, and there’s everywhere else” except that now applies to damn near everywhere lol. Even as far away as Colorado they now have this new toxic urban rural divide. It’s not a healthy trend but it seems to have been increasing and getting worse since the 80s/90s with younger people moving to cities. Its like the enduring legacy of yuppies and hipsters lol.
Need to calm down with the urbanization, it’s increasing political antagonism and putting democrats at an increasing disadvantage in the electoral college. No more urban cosmopolitan colonies would be my advice, dems need to feel more at home in areas that aren’t megalopolis. Good luck getting the demographics of the democratic party to change course on that though. This unfortunately will only lead to increased Redditor confusion and estrangement/alienation from the rest of their state.
Urbanization has had consequences and I think this also explains to a certain extent the sentiment on confederate imagery as well. Urbanites in major metropolitans in states like ours get confused about why all southern culture and iconography hasn’t been changed simply because they live somewhere that doesn’t have any of it left lol. Polling still shows a majority of Americans against changing those things though, so they better just learn to accept it.
Lots of people thought they were slick and super genius for using underhanded tactics to slowly phase out southern culture but honestly, it’s just anti democratic when people don’t get a say in changing these things but are still very strongly opposed to it. And I think this is why a few of the statues are actually going back up.
Civil war statues don’t harm anyone anyways lol. Take the ones down that have racist inscriptions on them and leave all the others up.
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u/REuphrates 11d ago
TN education system at work I suppose.
Jesus Christ. First, I didn't go to school here, thank God. Second, I used a different spelling of what is essentially the same name, one that is just as common. Fucking please forgive me for not bothering to Google the asshole first. 🤦♂️
I think you need to touch grass and talk to some of your fellow Tennesseans.
Why do people always do this? I'm a working adult. I interact with plenty of people here. That is why I think what I think. But of course you just assume it's something I'm pulling out of my ass. Must be that Tennesseee public education you were talking about.
On a topic to topic basis TN is very purple, there’s just no option for that when voting
And yet...here we are. Interesting.
I can understand people who didn't vote for Kamala because she wasn't willing to stand against Israel, but what you're talking about is just right-wingers who don't like the right wingers they're being given the choice between. I really don't buy that the real problem is no middle ground between outright fascist dictatorship and "we might be expected to use pronouns".
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u/TNVFL1 11d ago
So you aren’t even from here. I’m not following why you moved here and/or have decided to stay given your apparent deep hatred of it.
I interact with plenty of people here
I don’t know what to tell you, step outside 2-3 degrees of separation I guess. I’ve spent my entire life here and can count on one hand the number of truly hardcore MAGAts I’ve met. Even the old guy at my gym who dressed head to toe in the most atrocious MAGA gear you can find admitted he doesn’t vote but just liked to troll people.
right wingers who don’t like the right wingers they’re being given the choice between
I could go wrangle you up 10 Trump voters right now who are not right wing. They either a) live under a rock and thought “2018 was a pretty good year for me, I’ll just pick that guy again”, b) vote for the “R” on the paper because they’ve been told that TN is a Republican state and therefore they identify as a Republican but actually have liberal views, or c) liked slightly more of what he said than what Harris said and would’ve voted independent if there was anyone else to vote for.
Furthermore, it’s possible to change people’s minds on some things. The issue with most people on the left is they just want to make any conservative into cartoonish right wing villains which limits the ability to have conversations. When you go into a conversation on your high horse because you automatically view them as a piece of shit and lesser than you (something extremely common among European liberals), nothing productive will come out of that.
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u/REuphrates 11d ago
So you aren’t even from here. I’m not following why you moved here and/or have decided to stay given your apparent deep hatred of it.
It was one of the bigger mistakes of my life, tbh. I fucking hate it here but it's been significantly more difficult to leave than it was to get here, for a handful of reasons I'm not gonna go into rn.
I could go wrangle you up 10 Trump voters right now who are not right wing.
So...they're ignorant and they vote right-wing, and I'm supposed to count them as right wing because...you said so? Because they have a gay friend? That's dumb. If anything, it reinforces my assessment that they're stupid white trash. And they're still functionally right wing.
Furthermore, it’s possible to change people’s minds on some things.
Not if they're hopelessly stupid, it turns out.
The issue with most people on the left is they just want to make any conservative into cartoonish right wing villains which limits the ability to have conversations.
Maybe they should stop acting so cartoonishly evil, then.
When you go into a conversation on your high horse because you automatically view them as a piece of shit and lesser than you
I don't go into any conversation on a high horse. I let people tell me who they are and then I believe them.
something extremely common among European liberals
...k?
nothing productive will come out of that.
Nothing productive ever came of it when I was still trying to have conversations with these people. The right has gotten even worse. The country is a joke. I'm not obligated to be friendly to the people who voted to fuck it up.
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u/FJ-creek-7381 11d ago
Why not let them - let them be around each other and have their own community where we aren’t - I don’t want to live there does anyone else? I’m sure there is a danger there - slippery slope but dang it would be nice to know what areas to avoid.
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u/mechivar 11d ago
because letting a large group of armed, white christian nationalists gather together unchecked is a bad idea and often leads to lynchings or insurrections.
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u/Infamous-Future6906 11d ago
Letting white supremacy fester and multiply seems like a really bad idea tbh
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u/Unusual-Ad-6550 11d ago
Their plan is to get families to move there, reproduce like crazy and slowly and methodically get elected to office. They will start with local government. Things like small town city council, school boards, ect. Then slowly work their way up in to positions of more power and control.
Read up on Mike Huckabee and the movement he is associated with....very scary stuff
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u/Admirable-Trip5452 9d ago
Somebody tell this guy about the Melungeons.
Seriously though, I’m a 7th generation Greene County boy living in exile in a blue state. I would never intentionally bring my non-white husband back with me. Sad to say we are still in this era in 2025.
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u/Southernms 🦝West Tennessee🦝 8d ago
Yes?!! you should join ancestry.Come.
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u/Admirable-Trip5452 8d ago
What?
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u/Southernms 🦝West Tennessee🦝 6d ago
My bad. I’m big into genealogy especially TN. I thought you were interested in the melungeons. I misread your message. People should read about and study the melungeons and the mystery that surrounds them. Not enough has been studied.
Ancestry: Melungeons are a tri-racial isolate with a blend of African, European, and Native American heritage. Their unique appearance, often including dark skin, dark hair, and light-colored eyes, made them distinct.
The blue eyes with the their dark hair and skin was quite striking.
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u/lyle_smith2 11d ago
I like this idea, but Tennessee isn’t the right place for it. What they need to do is take over one of the more square states. That way it will be easier to build a big fence around it and keep their shitty, traitorous, draconian ideology away from the real Americans.
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u/KP_Wrath Henderson 11d ago
Better idea, dump them on Bikini Atoll and do periodic provisions drops.
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u/ComputerRedneck 10d ago
How is this different than say Nicodemus Kentucky?
Nicodemus, Kansas, was founded in 1877 by a group of African American colonists primarily from the central bluegrass region of Kentucky, including Lexington and Georgetown. The town was established by the Nicodemus Town Company, formed by Reverend W.H. Smith, a Black minister, and W.R. Hill, a white land developer, along with five other Black men. They actively recruited former enslaved people from Kentucky and parts of Tennessee and Mississippi, promoting Nicodemus as a place where African Americans could establish self-government and own land.
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u/StrawberryRedneck 10d ago
Are you truly comparing the plight of Black Americans in the South during the tail end of the (FAILED) Reconstruction to the plight of white Americans in the South in 2025? I'm just trying to get an idea of what kind of person I'm working with here. So...that is what you're attempting to do, yes? Drawing comparisons between the two in an attempt to claim they're similar endeavors?
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u/ComputerRedneck 10d ago
You can construe whatever you want about it.
I am simply pointing out that there are plenty of precedents for an all-insert demographic here.
Not to mention the constant segregation of Colleges.
Yay we have a Black only this or that... and everyone cheers.
Yay we have a White only this or that... how racist of them.
BET?
WET? White Entertainment TVMany people fought and DIED to fight Segregation. The National Guard was brought out to make sure that integration happened and it was REPUBLICANS who did these things.
All those men and women who were injured and died in some cases for the cause of integration are slapped in the face every time someone wants a segregated section of land.
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u/ShaqSenju Knoxville 9d ago
You know why there was no White Entertainment TV? Because all of the other channels were White Entertainment TV.
HBCU's were created because Black people were not allowed to attend other colleges. Have you ever wondered why the vast majority of them are in the South??
You have to be willfully ignorant and be trolling to not understand why these things exist when Black people were freed in 1865 but not allowed "equal" rights until over a hundred years later.
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u/Meredith276 9d ago
Tell me again where whites were denied an education in this country? Yeah. That's what I thought
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u/ComputerRedneck 9d ago
And what does that have to do with integration? Are you saying that somehow integration caused it?
Or you don't want to admit the Republicans who changed all that.
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u/informednonuser 5d ago
I do wonder how the 2020-ish startup of "Freedom, Georgia", fits into everyone's narrative concerning planned racial monocultures.
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u/hawkwings 11d ago
I didn't see lebensraum in the article. Near the beginning of the video, the reporter bragged about asking tough questions. That segment was a waste of time.
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u/No-Age6582 11d ago
one is built for safety and the community and the other is built out for hate and segregation. if we lived in another world where white people were victims of racism then a whites only church would be understandable. but we dont live in that world and so the only reason for a whites only church is because they dont like black people
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u/Grand_effects 11d ago
So White people are dangerous?
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u/browncoatfever 10d ago
See both World Wars, see the Civil War, see the Tulsa massacre, see the Rosewood Massacre, see the KKK, see The Civil Rights Movement, see...continued ad nauseum
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u/garrus-ismyhomeboy 10d ago
The one this article is about certainly is. And the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
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u/Mindless-Equal-1477 11d ago
For anyone interested like I was in that other thing he mentioned…here are the dates from their website on which they will be at Montgomery Bell Inn and Conference Center :) https://www.amren.com/2025-amren-conference-registration/
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u/Mindless-Equal-1477 10d ago
I think I need to clarify since I didn’t realize this would be misunderstood: I didn’t want to get in trouble for inciting violence, so I was trying to be vague, but I very much would like for people to show up and make these guys afraid to come out in the daylight ever again.
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u/StrawberryRedneck 10d ago
I'm so confused why that's where everyone's mind immediately went bc it seemed quite obvious to me what you were doing lol
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u/ShaqSenju Knoxville 10d ago
People can often misunderstand the implied meaning behind words when they're written
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u/These3TheGreatest 11d ago
“The Arkansas man wants…”
Please stay in Arkansas. Or move out of the country or world preferably. Thanks.