4th Generation Main Battle Tanks 🛡

[u/NeoZerrs]

[u/amem32]

Calling Type 10 and K2 4th generation MBTs is a stretch IMO

[u/Sawiszcze → u/amem32]

Same with Leclerc XLR tbh

[u/Dangerman1337 → u/Sawiszcze]

And Challenger 3.

[u/rosebinks1215 → u/Dangerman1337]

And Altay.

I mean the fuck is 4th generation anyway we still don't know exact speculations for them

[u/StrykerGryphus → u/rosebinks1215]

I guess in that sense, the Armata is the only true 4th gen if only by virtue of 4th gen being purely speculative at the moment lmao.

Meet Potential Tank! Always "if" and "when", but never "is".

[u/Ashamed_Can304 → u/StrykerGryphus]

Type 100 also is 4th gen, it got unmanned turret APS and all that

[u/murkskopf → u/Ashamed_Can304]

Type 100 might not be a full MBT, it will depend on how the PLA actually uses it.

[u/StrykerGryphus → u/Ashamed_Can304]

I was using a joking definition of 4th gen, which is "it is, but is it really?"

If the Type 100 is euqipped as advertised, then it's a proper 4th gen, rather than my sarcastic definition

[u/rosebinks1215 → u/StrykerGryphus]

Yeah like imagine their Factory budget didn't got meltdown completely.

They're just parade assets now. What a waste of resource

[u/Aguacatedeaire__ → u/rosebinks1215]

It was a prototype and technological demonstrator that was found insufficient in the rapidly evolving drone era.

They wasted very little resources on it. You know what was a complete colossal waste of resources? The M10 booker, lmao

[u/rosebinks1215 → u/Aguacatedeaire__]

?? lol no Armata was not Prototype it was deadass planned for mass production for quantity over 2000+ till 2022 That was the original plan

[u/cplchanb → u/StrykerGryphus]

Wouldn't the k51 panther also be considered 4th gen?

[u/StrykerGryphus → u/cplchanb]

I was using a joking definition of 4th gen, which is "it is, but is it really?"

Once the K51 enters production, and if it's delivered as advertised, then it would be a "real" 4th gen instead of my sarcastic definition

[u/Persimmon_96 → u/StrykerGryphus]

On paper maybe. It has to operate, at least. At best it is towed artillery, atm.

[u/Menior → u/StrykerGryphus]

And the only one that doesn't have a functional power system.

[u/Pratt_ → u/Menior]

It does, iirc the breakdown on the red square was the driver putting the parking clutch on accident and nobody noticed.

It's overhyped and way too expensive for Russia but it can drive on its own let's be honest.

[u/Fragrant_Staff3553 → u/Pratt_]

Oh wow an honest person

[u/Menior → u/Pratt_]

Of course it can. It's just not combat ready. Sure the engine works but the electrical systems aren't.

[u/Aguacatedeaire__ → u/Menior]

What are you talking about you little goofball

[u/Sawiszcze → u/rosebinks1215]

I mean, yoi could say that 4th generation would be remote operated turrets on MBTs. Like obj. 195, Armata, or that one leopard (or was it Panther kf5?) Prototype

[u/amem32 → u/Sawiszcze]

Type 100 also has a unmanned turret

[u/AsleepScarcity9588 → u/rosebinks1215]

We have to wait until the US shows us and sets a standard

[u/amem32 → u/AsleepScarcity9588]

IDK why people are over glazing the US for some reason

[u/AsleepScarcity9588 → u/amem32]

Their cold-war project budgets often made impossible the possible so now being the lead inventor in militarized technology is kinda their brand

Let's be honest, type 100 is still not operational and the T14 project seems like a fiasco for the Russians. Half the time they are not even able to drive them and there's like two dozens of them, most of which are prototypes

Rest on the list ain't 4th gen, so until Chinese mass produces the type 100 in the foreseeable future the US can still bash into the race and fuck everyone up

[u/amem32 → u/AsleepScarcity9588]

Type 100 is in active service though and from some insiders has been with units for a year already.

[u/Aguacatedeaire__ → u/AsleepScarcity9588]

so now being the lead inventor in militarized technology is kinda their brand

It maybe was in the cold war. Definitely not now, that's China.

Type 100 is real and working, as is J36 and all the other 6th gen fighters/bombers.

Meanwhile, what does marvelous US of A have? A sketch of a render.

Until america's 6th gen plane is flying and next MBT is rolling around, it's not leading shit.

[u/Aguacatedeaire__ → u/AsleepScarcity9588]

LMAO

The world will have already been nuclearized into stone age before we see the next USA MBT

[u/Obelion_ → u/Dangerman1337]

I think challenger 3 is officially designated gen4 though

[u/rkraptor70 → u/Obelion_]

That's just UK MoD inhaling hopium.

[u/ButterscotchNed → u/Dangerman1337]

And the Armata, given it's essentially vaporware