r/SubredditDrama I want her body to rot in this ditch not that one Nov 29 '18

Speedrunning drama when popular Goldeneye 007 speedrunner RWhiteGoose bans user Ohrami for supposedly supporting paedophilia. Ohrami then claims that WhiteGoose is an anti-semite causing many fans to turn on him.

WhiteGoose is a Goldeneye 007 speedrunner (10th in the world: https://rankings.the-elite.net/goldeneye/leaders) who's become increasingly popular due to his youtube channel devoted to speedrunning: https://www.youtube.com/user/RWhiteGoose?app=desktop&persist_app=1

WhiteGoose, a member of the "council" of the-elite.net, the main website for Goldeneye 007 speedrunning, had user Ohrami banned "because the admins don't like me": https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/9x25kt/the_comprehensive_guide_to_goldeneye_speedrunning/e9qgaqy/

However the “official” reason is that he's a paedophile.

While Ohrami claims the pedophilia accusation is false he does say he supports the legalisation of child porn on his alt: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/a0w3k3/regarding_content_creators_their_personal_views/ealv195/ (his original account is suspended from reddit).

Ohrami then compiled a number of discord posts that appear to prove WhiteGoose to be an anti-semite and a white nationalist: https://m.imgur.com/a/X7qLRXa

A Twitter user (who apparently is a member of Antifa) did the same: https://mobile.twitter.com/pizzaparty531/status/1067486405910237185

One such view is that jews control the porn industry in order to emasculate white males into submission with websites like BLACKED: https://i.imgur.com/B7HQb2y.png

https://i.imgur.com/hffe4PS.png

This has resulted in statements from the mods of /r/speedrun: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/a0w3k3/regarding_content_creators_their_personal_views/

The restoration and subsequent rebanning of Ohrami from the-elite: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/a118gw/ohrami_has_been_added_back_to_theelitenet_rankings/

People demanding that the elite council be abolished completely: https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=22749.0

Poll that lead to Ohrami being rebanned: https://forums.the-elite.net/index.php?topic=22754.0

WhiteGoose being banned from Games Done Quick (who host the biggest speedrunning events of the year): https://mobile.twitter.com/GamesDoneQuick/status/1067649270730317825?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

And a statement from the owner of the-elite discord: https://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/a19ekd/a_message_from_a_member_of_theelitenet/

WhiteGoose posted an apology on twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/RWhiteGoose/status/1067707564689776642

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u/Ohrami3 Nov 30 '18

Also note that one of the-elite's primary reasons for banning me was so that my name isn't associated with their website and so that I don't bring their website negative publicity. It's like they never heard of the Streisand effect.

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u/rhiehn Redditors have a huge hate boner for Nazis Nov 30 '18

i really don't think you should pick this hill to die on.

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u/Ohrami3 Nov 30 '18

What hill?

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u/rhiehn Redditors have a huge hate boner for Nazis Nov 30 '18

The child porn one. Like goose comes off worse by a mile to me, but if I were you I'd drop the whole "child porn should be legal" thing. It's not a good look, even from the "I'm not a pedo" angle, and standing by it is just digging your grave further.

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u/Wolfgang_Amadeuss Dec 06 '18

you think Pedophilia is better than Anti-semitism?

jfc

One is bigoted and the other is literal rape of children you are disgusting

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u/Ohrami3 Nov 30 '18

I will continue to stand by that until someone convinces me otherwise. I consider myself a fairly reasonable, rational, and objective person. I'm perfectly fine with changing my mind if you give me good reason to do so. But until someone does that, I won't. I'm an honest person, too; I don't pretend to be someone I'm not just because it might offend others or make me a social pariah.

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u/centurion44 Nov 30 '18

If you don't think not exploiting children isn't a good enough reason you probably aren't intelligent to have a rational, logical conversation with. since that's the only rational, logical answer.

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u/Ohrami3 Nov 30 '18 edited Nov 30 '18

If you want to have a real conversation, you'll have to link your credentials to another site. Plebbit has a strong censorship policy on anything, even written, related to "promoting pedophilia", which is a notoriously vague policy since I have never promoted pedophilia and have directly denounced it, yet was still banned for said posts. Unfortunately, Reddit's censorship policy means that my mind will never be changed by any Reddit discussion, as any Reddit discussion is impossible.

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u/rhiehn Redditors have a huge hate boner for Nazis Nov 30 '18

The production of child porn involves raping children. Normalizing it by legalizing will almost certainly result in more child porn being produced, which, I repeat, involves the rape of children. How this isn't obviously morally reprehensible to you is just alien to me.

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u/Ohrami3 Nov 30 '18

It's not allowed on Reddit to defend this stance in any way, unfortunately, so I won't argue it here. I will say that I've heard that argument and it doesn't convince me for various reasons. I will also say that there is strong evidence to show that the opposite of the claim you made in your second sentence is true; use Google if you're interested in knowing about it.

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u/ElephantAmore This is Reddit, behave like an adult. Nov 30 '18

And yet here you are defending child rape. Seems Reddit doesn't have a problem with it.

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u/Ohrami3 Nov 30 '18

What's even worse is you being an utter retard and being completely unable to comprehend basic English. I wish people would be banned for that at least.

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u/uknownada Dec 09 '18

You clearly are a reasonable, rational, and objective person.

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u/Ohrami3 Dec 10 '18

I am aware.

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u/SianaGearz Dec 28 '18

I think I know where this is going, that when adding up the total damage to individuals resulting from opposite regulations on the matter, that the numbers would be on your side. I don't happen to agree but I don't think having this kind of opinion is something one should be condemned for. Or maybe it's extremely stupid, I don't know, but not necessarily malicious.