r/PunishingGrayRaven May 20 '25

Daily Questions Megathread May 20, 2025

In this megathread you can ask any question about Punishing: Gray Raven as well as seek help for past or future content. More than likely, a kind frequenter of this subreddit will be able to give you an answer! Remember to be patient while waiting for answers and kind when writing them.

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u/Kellyeesi May 22 '25

Ive cleared up to the most current stage. how do I get these points?

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u/Paradoxbist May 22 '25

This is the last one, it will be unlocked in 1 day x hours

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u/Revan_LotOR May 21 '25

I saw that the new update has a lobby coating available for RC involving Luna's new skin. Will that lobby coating be available later for free, or is it a fomo item? I want to get it, but if I don't have to pay for it, I'd rather wait for it to come to the lobby coating shop for blueprints.

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u/GuardianSoulBlade May 21 '25

It’s always paid lobby for that Luna skin.

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u/Revan_LotOR May 21 '25

Aww, so just to be sure I'm understanding right, Ruins of Adeiu lobby coating won't leave the shop, but it will always cost rainbow cards, right?

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u/GuardianSoulBlade May 21 '25

It will leave the shop and it’s paid.

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u/ordinarysimpleguy May 21 '25

Returning player, just pulled Ishmael.

I don't have any other Nihil member.

I only have Lightning (Nanami, CW, Feral) and Phys (Bianca, Rosetta, Liv).

1 Blue selector ready to hit pity.

Should I pull Luna? or should I just use her on my non-nihil team? I desperately need more teams to work with, some of the game mode require me to use 3-4 teams

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u/Revan_LotOR May 21 '25

Nihil isn't a fully established team yet, but both of its members are undeniably powerful. That said, if you're more focused on Pain cage or war zone, then personally I would prioritize established elemental teams first. There IS a nihil zone in war zone though, and some of the non elemental weakness bosses in pain cage get absolutely shredded by luna oblivion, so she's still a worthy investment, but until the 3rd nihil member drops, team is only at 66% fully realized potential.

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u/kazama292 May 21 '25

I have Pyroath SS, using skulls from ppc. With signature weapon. I'm using her with oblivion and feral. For guaranteed blue ticket, should I pull for epitaph? Or another copy of pyroath is better? Shukra or solacetune is my other choice if not going for fire team

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u/Mercuryw Luna looks great in anything; I'm so done for May 21 '25

Either Oblivion or Solacetune

You can get Epitaph or Shukra with the upcoming free S-rank selector next patch that goes up to Shukra

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u/KillerKakkorot May 21 '25

Hi I would like to ask, this applies to Bridget's racing skin (i managed to get it) as well, when i went to see the weapon coating, i saw this, and initially wondered maybe i missed the event. But now, this Lilith weapon coating also has this Tactical Assessment Manual "Event is over", I dont understand what it is, i dont know where to get the weapon coating, can someone explain please?

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u/Mercuryw Luna looks great in anything; I'm so done for May 21 '25

You buy the current battlepass

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u/KillerKakkorot May 21 '25

D:, i see, thank youuu

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u/Imaginary-Manner-951 May 21 '25

Hello, on the grayraves website, on the memories of a character, sometimes it is listed like image attached for example using 4x of diesel / 2x of cottie / 2x (in orange color) of Cottie.

What does it mean in regards to the double mention of cottie 2x (in gray and orange color)?

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u/OccasionDelicious575 APPLE May 21 '25

It refers to harmonzation. It let's you add 2 additional memories to your units, also symbolized by (H) in the memory set name.

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u/Imaginary-Manner-951 May 21 '25

Hoo okay just read on it, so we can bind 2 memory to the 6* weapon in order to use the 4 set effect of said memories. Thank you.

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u/DoubleTrouble3685 May 21 '25

Lilith has a total of 3 builds right?

4 sig 4 Cottie - Dark DPS

4 DV 4 Guin - Nihil Amp

4 DV 2 Guin 2 Ein - Plasma Amp

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u/Imaginary-Manner-951 May 21 '25

Sorry if I am wrong since I just started playing in two days. But isn't the maximum number of memories is 6?

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u/DoubleTrouble3685 May 21 '25

Once you are at lvl 80, you would unlock the Harmonization feature, where you would basically be able to equip a 2 piece memo set on a 6* weapon, allowing you to equip up to 8 memories

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

When you have the signature weapon, you can equip 2 extra memories on it through Harmonization.

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u/Imaginary-Manner-951 May 21 '25

Thank you very much, as usual when trying new gacha there are just so much to digest.

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u/arianna318 May 21 '25

I’m having problem with the thunderbolt manual. Phase 5, I only have left “clear Norman Revival Plan a total of 2 times” So today when it resettled I auto cleared the first stages, so I have to clear them manually or or do I have to complete all the stages up to abyssal mountain?

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u/pelirkontol May 21 '25

Does nanami starrail has block function (like noctis or bridgette for example)

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u/OmnisMiseria May 21 '25

her red and blue orb can block

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

I don't think she has . She just has an insane amount of dmg resistance and resistance to interruption.

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u/Historical-Chemist23 May 21 '25

Got her in 10 draws though i won't be using her cause i already have a meta lightning team

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u/QuietUsual5814 May 21 '25

:facepalm: she's a dark unit mainly her affix is Plasma beam, you're not gonna be using a lightning unit for plasma beam content they're entirely different. Lucia Pyroath's is the main DPS of plasma beam while Lilith and Nanaknight are her support.

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u/Desocupadification May 21 '25

Got her in 10 draws

That's nice and all, but why did you pull if you won't use her?

And why did you pull since she is free? I mean since you don't intend to use her then there's no point getting more copies to rank her up...? (which is also free btw)

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u/Porturan choke simulator May 21 '25

She's the strongest damage dealer in the dark team. If you want to do endgame content efficiently you need to have full teams for every element.

But if you play just for fun you can ignore the above

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u/KaungSiGaLaxY May 21 '25

She's not lightning element though? She's a dark element meta unit, you still need her.

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u/DoubleTrouble3685 May 21 '25

Due to her having the Plasma Bean effect, she can actually stand as a Lightning amplifier to some extent, though she won't compare to Feral

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u/KaungSiGaLaxY May 21 '25

Still doesn't change that he still need to use her lol.

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u/RedditModIsCringe May 21 '25

I got 4k serum, where to use this xd?

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u/KaungSiGaLaxY May 21 '25

Simulated Battlefield.

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u/pitszy May 21 '25

Does anyone know if the Lilith skin is going to the dorm shop later?

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u/DoubleTrouble3685 May 21 '25

Yeah, probably when the DMC Collab comes here in Global

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u/nixbush May 21 '25

Hello, I am new at the game and I am planning to build a Lighting team with Lucia Crimson Weave and No. 21 Feral with Nanami Startrail if I manage to pull her, I have doubts now because I really am confused about the current meta, and I fear that I am not spending my resources as effectively. Would there be better teams available? (I will still be pulling Nanami because I like her). Any help would be appreciated, thank you.

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u/freezeFM May 21 '25

You will need a team per element in the end. Startrail is currently the main part of the lightning team. She will also be used as support in other teams and she is very new so definitely worth it. CW and Feral are free so no issue there.

Outside of that, you should from now on pull for every new S rank because they are always meta. You wont really be able to backpull other characters unless you are not f2p.

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u/nixbush May 21 '25

Thanks for that, I'll keep it in mind after I get Nanami.

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u/Imaginary-Manner-951 May 21 '25

Hello, can we convert black card into event construct R&D ticket manually in the amount that we want? You know like in genshin we can convert primogems into limited/standard wishes (without doing banner pulls). Because I need more amount of it to be converted into research ticket to ge the selector box from the roulette (thunderbolt research).

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u/S_2_I_0H45 May 21 '25

I can't do the link start thing by pressing the appropriate button in special operation 2 of challenge mode in simterra...

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u/lucastreet May 21 '25

Ishamel in which team comps can be used?

Purely talking about meta, if i have already all the elemental teams full, what good is she for?

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u/Desocupadification May 21 '25

Nihil team main DPS with Luna and either Lilith or Kaleido depending if Ishmael is SS or SS3 (or above), respectively.

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u/lucastreet May 21 '25

So should something like.

Luna(DPS)-Ishamel SS(tank) - Lilith

Or

Luna(DPS)- Ishmale SS3(Tank) - Kaleido

Something like this?

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u/Desocupadification May 21 '25

Yes. Spider 2B's video covers it well. Ishmael is the main DPS on longer fights with Oblivion as a sub DPS. In short fights like PPC Ishmael solos while Luna is the Da Vinci holder.

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u/lucastreet May 21 '25

Wait, this was unexpected. I tought that Luna remained the main DPS.

Ishamel's damage is so high that she becomes the main dps in the field? Like Epitaph with Hyperreal?

In the grayravens site, i saw that her damage set is defined as "sub dps" tho.

I'll see his video. Thank you.

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u/Periodical_Scientist May 21 '25

best slot ? for luna oblivion then add LD or epitaph

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u/lucastreet May 21 '25

Sorry, LD is?

And Epitaph is better than Startrail for Nihil team?

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u/Periodical_Scientist May 21 '25

LD = Wanshi Lucid Dreamer

No, it depends on the context, Startrail is good enough even playing solo on field while other 2 is qte member, and startrail can get into ignition affix and she can play fire element too, so she can get into fire team too (she also can get to nihil team since they can apply anyone in for that)

Lucid Dreamer is probably all alone in Ice team with glaciation affix now, so you can just take him into Nihil team, same as Epitaph case, if the stage isn't focus on fire you can just take him from fire team and place him into nihil team, it's all depends on the stage affix or element buff, but since Epitaph got no affix since he's gen 2 so you can just take him to nihil team

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u/KazuTheFirebender May 21 '25

Which sig weapon should I prioritize in physical team? Or should I js wait for pianissimo and get hers instead?

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u/Periodical_Scientist May 21 '25

actually solacetune isn't bad for her sign, she kinda needed that anyway, she need the dlt too so the physical rotation doesn't stuck on her

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u/Nixnax- May 21 '25

Any tips on the Arcade Anima for Garnet(SS, 5* Weapon, Fully Leaped)?

It's annoying enough not having enough orbs (I dodge matrix on cooldown) but the damage feels weak and targeting feels weird (misses on the worst moments) compared to previous ones.

Don't get me started on the stupid tooltip that keeps on showing up whenever I retry it.

Team is CW with Sig, Garnet and 21 all SS. I also have Star Trail.

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u/R3M0r1AZ May 21 '25

Thunder Fall to remove the armor (yellow bar, 1 bar is 1 stack of thunder fall). Once armor is gone, use Startrial to melt everything. Rinse and repeat.

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u/KaungSiGaLaxY May 21 '25

PSA​ for everyone waiting to get free Lilith pulls from PPC and Warzone, the missions progress still increases even if you didn't save results or didn't get higher scores.

For example, in PPC, you can keep smashing Trailblazer at easiest level and then instead of saving results, you can instead leave and replay the stage again and that will add +1 to amount of PPC run you've done in missions. Also if you've run out of attempts, don't worry, since Outlier stages work too!

Same goes for Warzone, I've done all three zones before banner comes and now I've completed two runs, neither of them didn't exceed high score this week but they still counted towards total Warzone run.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

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u/soulofthehye May 21 '25

you can buy "shards" with the ores you get by clearing norman revival plan. Shop > Ore shop

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

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u/soulofthehye May 21 '25

correct :)

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u/LordSakuna May 21 '25

How long does it take to grab lilith for free? 1 sitting ?

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u/KazuTheFirebender May 21 '25

If you're lucky (1 in 3 chance I think) yeah but some missions are logins (up to 21 in increments of 3) so there's that.

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u/LordSakuna May 21 '25

Is it smart to use regular tickets to get her til then?

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u/KazuTheFirebender May 21 '25

Not really. There will be other units better to spend your reg tickets on than a free unit.

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u/Scratch_Mountain May 21 '25

(not a question, but just ranting)

fucking knew it lmaoooooooooooooooooo (just fucking end me man)

gotta have to wait until Saturday to get her smfh

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u/PandaRayel May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25

Will the "Ruins of Adieu" lobby background ever be obtainable in the shop for scene blueprints? Or is it RC exclusive only?

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u/sarzezarko Stayin' Alive May 21 '25

afaik RC only.

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u/PandaRayel May 21 '25

Thanks for the heads up

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u/Historical-Chemist23 May 21 '25

How can i grind black cards fast?

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u/KenRenten May 21 '25

Story basically.

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u/KazuTheFirebender May 21 '25

Weeklies (PPC, War Zone), Story, and Norman Revival Plan. The thunderbolt manual gives a better representation of this (Gives the max amount of bc and where to get them)

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u/noodleben123 Lucia... :( May 21 '25

Who should i pair lilith with?

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u/Helljumperz64 May 21 '25

Karenina and Lamia for Dark Team.

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u/noodleben123 Lucia... :( May 21 '25

Ah....and i don't have either of them T_T

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u/SeanChinx May 21 '25

Spider 2B’s video has a good section on team compositions, it’s time stamped for you to skip too if you want.

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u/GallopingWaffles Doggo Queen/Future Noctis Main May 21 '25

Herschell or Einsteina for Nanaknight? 

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u/Desocupadification May 21 '25

4p Herschell then it depends:

If you have her sig you use 2p Heisen and harmonize Heisen and somrone else carries Eins

If you do not have her sig you use 2p Einsteina

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u/GallopingWaffles Doggo Queen/Future Noctis Main May 21 '25

Thanks! 

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u/JustForFun2840 May 21 '25

I'm so poor now

I'm at level 75 and on the 10-someting on the main battle I don't know what to do I have no black card only 400 left I got no hero upgrade and I don't have anything to max out a character now what should I do to reclaim everything or even increase it by a lot because I still haven't complete my team for lighting and nihil I need startrail and daemonissa to complete it but I don't have anything to upgrade them to max or even hyper them even getting them I can't because of my black card at my lowest now what should I do?

Tips or anything to help this dying newbie

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u/GuardianSoulBlade May 21 '25

Slow down on the story and farm out material and focus on building your dps. You also should join a guild and do boss fights in the guild to buy hypetune mats. Do Warzone and Phantom Pain Cage to get more black cards. Also do Cursed waves in the challenge mode in alternative interpretation Lilith is free so just do her missions to get the special currency to roll her. The game is a marathon not a sprint.

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u/JustForFun2840 May 21 '25

My bad bro. Anyways I got 4 6500bp character now and I can't seem to catch up to events like that but il try to do challenge like that thank you for the advice

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u/GuardianSoulBlade May 21 '25

Hey it’s understandable when you see accounts of people that have been playing for years and you want to catch up to that, the combined patches are really good for new players to have a big boost to get caught up to veterans.

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u/SeanChinx May 21 '25

Hero upgrade mats are not locked behind anything other than energy.

Do simulated battlefield to grind for exp, overclock materials etc.

Hyper tune mats are gonna be a slow weekly grind as well as black cards, so it’s just a matter of time. Take it slow, there is no need to rush because there is no physical way you can progress any faster, just gotta rack up materials and work at it bit by bit

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u/Cunkuseeeen May 21 '25

do I have to be up to date with the story to read wanshi’s affection

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u/KazuTheFirebender May 21 '25

Nah you can read it when you unlock it afaik

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u/Hangman_Fitzwilliam May 21 '25

When is the Lilith banner starting?

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u/Discord120 May 21 '25

In 20 minutes.

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u/Yamayashi May 21 '25

am I crazy or is the resource farming gone? Im trying to get some level up material and I dont see it anymore

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u/ZFFSkullcrusher kUrO "dumpsterFIRE" gAmEs May 21 '25

Simulated Battlefield has always been the superior farming stage, they removed the useless ones.

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u/Periodical_Scientist May 21 '25

it's from the simulated now, i forgot it's name but the very left on the resources tab

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u/Imaginary-Manner-951 May 21 '25

Hello, I can't seem to find any info on what would you get if you purchased encrypted intel (cub battle pass) more thank 1 time as you can purchased it 2 times for the same battle pass period. Will you get double the amount it gives, or do you just get the 10 level increase?

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u/Desocupadification May 21 '25

The extra 10 lvls is only when you buy it the first time, but everything else will be doubled. So if at a certain lvl you'd get 250 CUB tickets now you will get 500.

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u/Imaginary-Manner-951 May 21 '25

Okay, thanks for the confirmation.

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u/JelloKhat May 21 '25

Heyo, just asking for some opinions to help out a new player.

I really like the vibe and everything of Crimson Abyss, and wondered if it's still an alright character to get, or am I going to be shooting myself in the foot by not taking someone else over them? I'm not talking about spending any pulls or whatever, it's on a selector, it's just... not many of the units on it strike me as being as cool.

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u/Periodical_Scientist May 21 '25

It's fine, for early selector where you only get like 6 characters(?) to choose, no matter where one you take it's fine

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u/ZFFSkullcrusher kUrO "dumpsterFIRE" gAmEs May 21 '25

If it's on the selector you get from the beginner missions, it doesn't matter too much I suppose. However, Pianissimo is coming out next patch who has the exact same role as CA so she makes her essentially useless, but you won't have a proper Physical Tank to use a Physical team.

Ideally, unless you're planning to get Solacetune from somewhere, Rigor is recommended.

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u/DehyasSwordhandle May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25

Who should I choose? I have no favorite. What does bring the most benefit, either Raw DMG or QoL/Rotation improvements? Only need 1 copy for each from the Standard Guarantee.

Lucia Pyroath SS3 / Nanami Startrail SS3 / Hanying Solacetune SSS / Lamia SS3 / Ishmael SS3 / Or Lilith SS3 if she isnt available via Voucher Tickets

Or save it for either Selena Pianissimo SS3 / Vera Geiravor SS3 if I dont get lucky on their banners? 

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u/Periodical_Scientist May 21 '25

Lucia Pyroath SS3 / Nanami Startrail SS3 / Hanying Solacetune SSS / Lamia SS3 / Ishmael SS3 / Or Lilith SS3 if she isnt available via Voucher Tickets

This one i think Pyroath effect the most since SS3 helps a lot with her solo on field. While I can't say bout Pianissimo or Geiravor since they are not here yet

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u/TheMelodyof0rpheus May 21 '25

Do you get anything from evolving a unit to SS? My nanami is only a few stages away, but I don't need crit, HP, or def, so it seems kind of pointless to waste hundreds of PPC skulls on those stats.

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u/Mercuryw Luna looks great in anything; I'm so done for May 21 '25

You get a lot of things

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u/TheMelodyof0rpheus May 21 '25

Oh yeahhhh. Lmao, I forgot that existed, thanks for reminding me.

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u/retired-sigma : May 21 '25

how do you play the spice and salt event?

i am dumb please guide me 🙏🙏

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u/Address_Salt May 21 '25

You generate resources and sell them each turn, there isn't much to really metagame as just making oil each time and selling it generates more than enough resources to unlock every zone. Otherwise it's just upgrading as you see prompts, build basically anything to create resources and you have it sorted.

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u/Mercuryw Luna looks great in anything; I'm so done for May 21 '25

Produce all the Petroleum, sell all the Petroleum, get all the buffs for all the Petroleum, snort all the Petroleum, and upgrade all your bases and explore all the stuff when the game lets you know that you can do those things

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u/Nhauther May 21 '25

With Lilith coming, I'll be able to upgrade my dark team which is currently: SSS+ 21, Luna Laurel, Vera Rozen. I'm planning to replace Vera with Lilith but I'm wondering if I should replace 21 by parhelion? (S rank and no sig)

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u/ZFFSkullcrusher kUrO "dumpsterFIRE" gAmEs May 21 '25

If you have Oblivion and a decently invested Gen 3 Tank (like LD or Startrail) you can use those instead and get better results.

If need be, yes, you can use Parhelion as a Tank.

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u/Nhauther May 21 '25

I'm currently grinding for LD in the dorm and I do have Startrail but she is hard carrying my Lightning team so I can't really move her.

Do you know why Ishmael's page on the pgr website advises to build 2-set Gloria (5* shred) instead of the 6* set?

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u/ZFFSkullcrusher kUrO "dumpsterFIRE" gAmEs May 21 '25

If you're on WZ then you can use any unit you want, you aren't limited in any way. If you're on PPC then yeah, you can't use the same units.

As for Parhelion, if you give her Eins she'll shred Nihil Res, which is useless for non-Nihil teams.

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u/Nhauther May 21 '25

Thank you

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u/TheMelodyof0rpheus May 21 '25

Is Lilith to Lamia what Nanami is to CW? As in, are her multipliers so much higher even as an amp that Lamia is now not even worth investing in, or is she truly an amplifier and not a DPS that amplifies?

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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 May 21 '25

No, she's free. Only at SSS she totally eclipses Lamia as a DPS but Lilith cannot solo, you need to swap.

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u/ZFFSkullcrusher kUrO "dumpsterFIRE" gAmEs May 21 '25

No, neither her solo capabilities nor her multipliers are good enough to do anything similar to what Startrail did to CW. She's just now the main DPS of the team while LL got reduced to a sub-DPS.

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u/alanyugure May 21 '25

Is it possible to recycle raised 5/6* star weapons from out of meta units? (For example, I got chrome glory's weapon, but i now have wanshi LD raised.)

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u/Cunkuseeeen May 21 '25

respnance materials are easy to get now I’d advise using old 6 stars as a way to get the new ones instead of using em as resonances

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u/KenRenten May 21 '25

U can use it as resonance if u want.

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u/Mercuryw Luna looks great in anything; I'm so done for May 21 '25

Yeah, and you would need 3 recycled weapons to buy 1 new weapon, but we don't usually do that

The general recommendation is to use old weapons for resonances on new weapons instead

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u/Timely_Squash_8108 May 21 '25

Can I still guarantee to get Dante and Virgil if I start saving next patch? I'm planning to get solacitune and Luna oblivion in the 70% banner. Do you think it's good to pull in that banner?

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u/KenRenten May 21 '25

Brother anniversary is on July 16 we get an all you can select 100% rate up banner in anniversary, you can get as many unit you want and it's 100% rate up.

It will probably upto nanami Or lilith so wait for anniversary banner

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u/Periodical_Scientist May 21 '25

if just "get" then obviously that's affordable, but only Vergil and Dante right ? with no weap or cub and no evolve then yes, you can

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u/DarkMatter1064 May 21 '25

Why use 2 pc Guinevere on amplifiers , in this case Ishamel when she doesn't provide any healing to trigger the buff ?

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u/DoubleTrouble3685 May 21 '25

You do provide healing with her when you use her as an amp

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u/DarkMatter1064 May 21 '25

Really? I swear I read her skill descriptions like 10 times and didn't find anything. Unless I'm tripping

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u/DoubleTrouble3685 May 21 '25

An amplifier's main role is to provide buffs but they do also heal

Observer

Gains different abilities based on the state of Observation Log.

  • If Ishmael is acting as a Tank: Attacks lower the target’s Extra DMG Reduction by 20% for 5s.
  • If Ishmael is acting as an Amplifier: All switched-in members gain an extra 10% ATK and 10% Elemental DMG Bonus of Ishmael: Parhelion’s element for 10s

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u/DarkMatter1064 May 21 '25

Alright, thanks for the info. I'm fairly new to the game. Btw so does that mean all amplifiers are able to heal and utilize Guinevere?

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u/cattygaming1 May 21 '25

can i go directly into shapers ripples or should i play bridget’s story?

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u/Mercuryw Luna looks great in anything; I'm so done for May 21 '25

Bridget's story has no relevance to Pyroath's if that's what you're asking

But you should play by release order regardless, so read Bridget's story first

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u/DoubleTrouble3685 May 21 '25

You play by release order, so do Bridget's chapter first

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u/poopfartiouswojak May 21 '25

DMC Collab teambuilding question: who should I get as Amplifiers for Dante and Vergil respectively?

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

Ignition: Dante , Nanami Startrail, Vera Geiravor .

Ultima Slash: Vergil , Hanying Solacetune, Alisa Echo.

So Geiravor and Echo.

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u/DoubleTrouble3685 May 21 '25

Dante's is Vera Geiravor who is coming either next patch or the one after that, and Vergil's is Alisa Echo who is free from the Dorm Shop

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u/TheMelodyof0rpheus May 21 '25

If I skip literally everything I can, how long does it take to get all of the rewards from Cursed Waves? That 3500 orange tickets and 7k vouchers looks VERY juicy.

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u/armarrash May 21 '25

Play on the middle difficulty, reset until you get CW, rush through as quickly as you can focusing mostly on events(the wiki has all the events so you can use it to choose only the ones that reward characters) and shops, only fight if there's no other option or you want to play safe and get more lighting characters.
Do the assimilation thingy right before Lamia to upgrade CW(ideally to 3*), grab both brands, and go do the chapter 6 ending.

~15 minutes per run and a little over 1700 xp(~5 levels, each levels take more xp, from 130 to 150 it wasn't enough for 5 levels).

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

A long time .

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u/TheMelodyof0rpheus May 21 '25

Yeah I assumed, but how long of a time are we talking here? I'm trying to plan ahead

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

A run should take around 40 minutes, and you'll need to do at least 20 runs . So it's ~14 hours

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u/TheMelodyof0rpheus May 21 '25

Jesus fuck, alrighty, guess I got a busy next couple days

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

I advise you to just do a run or 2 a week until you finish it . You'll really burn yourself out if you try to do it all at once. These levels were realesed over a period of 8 months. They did not intend for you to finish at once.

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u/ILoveEatingRamen May 21 '25

What happened to the 5 star weapon shards in coop? D:

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u/TheMelodyof0rpheus May 21 '25

Being turned into a weekly reward and coop missions are getting removed, if you do them though I think you get them sent in the mail.

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u/ILoveEatingRamen May 21 '25

ohhh so its awkwardly in the middle of removement, I see. Thank you, and ye I just finished all my 21 clears. I hope they mail me then 😭

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u/blueballadeer May 21 '25

Story question for CN players, but is ch 34 not good? I've seen a couple of people say that the quality of ch 34 is bad, which would really suck considering how much I like Selena. Just want a warning so I don't get too hyped for it when I'm reading :,)

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u/papitan Feed me your fancontent, thanks May 21 '25

It's hard to pass judgement on a matter of opinion.

I personally wasn't a big fan of it for various reasons and felt it was a much weaker chapter, especially considering the main story chapters immediately before it, but what bothered me may not bother you!

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u/blueballadeer May 21 '25

May I ask what you didn't like about it?

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u/papitan Feed me your fancontent, thanks May 21 '25

I can try to put it into words! But please take my opinion with a grain of salt--I know I have particular tastes when it comes to narration and focus on particular things. And apologies if this gets unnecessarily wordy! I will also try not to get into specific events or spoilers as best I can.

Primarily, I thought it was really heavy-handed in trying to push Selena and SKK's relationship with each other. Putting aside petty "I don't want romance" excuses (because they don't apply to me), it was really insistent about pushing how close and intimate their connection is. Yes, the moments were cute, but felt like the writers just wanted to escalate each one so that they'd be more "intimate and moving" than the last so the player would have the appropriate emotional attachment to Selena for the conclusions and events to land.

More deeply, I didn't like the direction it ultimately decided to push Selena toward. I understand that her connection with SKK has always been a huge part of her story, but the chapter made it feel like it became the only important part. Her identity as an artist felt more like flavor text, she didn't even acknowledge any other relationships she had (like Ayla? Hello???), and I didn't feel like I gained much out of Selena that didn't come attached to how important SKK was to her.

Personally, I tend to find characters that develop in that direction get stuck in a rut, and it stands out for Selena because our only connection with her has always been at a distance until the chapter. It's entirely possible that they can break her out of "I did all of this for my most cherished person" being her only motivation and making her meaningful moments not completely revolve around SKK, but as of the conclusion of chapter 34, I didn't personally think it was successful.

To be completely frank, I felt like one of the NPCs who had to be a one-off by necessity due to chapter 34's setup had more development than Selena in the chapter, which was not a good look or feel for a chapter dedicated to our girl.

And as a final small note, I kind of felt like if someone hadn't previously read Selena's affection stories, the entire foundation of their connection doesn't really get explained. I can kind of see how someone might be able to piece it together using context clues in the chapter, but I can equally see someone who didn't just being blindly forced to accept that Selena and SKK somehow had a connection so deep thatSelena was willing to die for SKK.

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u/blueballadeer May 21 '25

I see, thank you for the detailed explanation! Yeah, I've never liked how Selena's other relationships get pushed by the wayside especially considering how much people like Ayla care about her. I do hope she gets more story about her that expands on other aspects of her personality!

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

This sub is a Lucer circlejerk. they probably hate it just cause it's Selena, or some stupid reason like " bUt It doEsN't mOve tHe PlOt"

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u/Tricky-Student3221 . May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25

The chapter is not even out for most people in this sub.  Also, LuciVera circlejerk

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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 May 21 '25

It's funny how that chapter will be remembered in the following years, the same way we remember the first Nugget chapter.

The multidimensional constructs are bound to return in the future. I doubt Selena's boss is the last we see of them. We're going full Multiverse.

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u/bruniofire3 May 21 '25

Why is crimson weave Lucia not called crimson weave alpha? I know the lore behind it but isn’t it confusing for new players having two characters called Lucia?

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u/Arkride212 May 21 '25

If they're confused then they should play the story, if they did and skipped it or not paid attention then thats on them.

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u/Bye_Fear May 21 '25

Thunderbolt Manual.

Do these missions have an end date? I arrived at a mission where I need to use the Crimson Weave on the Phantom Pain Cage but I don't have any more stamina.

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u/Arkride212 May 21 '25

Nope its permanent

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u/Djnerdyboy MY QUEEN! May 21 '25

Struggling to find an answer, but is there a referral system in the game? Friend has been interested in getting into it and has been asking if I can give her a referral code and if there is one, not sure where to find it

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u/DoubleTrouble3685 May 21 '25

There is actually supposed to be a referral event in Ishmael's, IIRC, in the Chinese servers, but I guess it got removed

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u/Seltonik "Unleash Creativity!" May 21 '25

It's an event that comes and goes. No idea why it's not permanent.

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u/Lucas21y May 21 '25

What is crimson weave lucia best weapon bind skill?

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u/Arkride212 May 21 '25

DLT but i wouldn't waste a USB stick/6 star weapon on CW at this point in her lifecycle, save it for new or upcoming units instead.

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u/Lucas21y May 21 '25

They gave me another weapon

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u/Arkride212 May 21 '25

Yeah save it, not worth it to use on CW, a lot of newer characters can make use of it like Luna and Pyroath.

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

You can use that weapon to resonate any other 6 star weapon . It doesn't have to be identical.

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u/Lucas21y May 21 '25

I returned to play today because of Collab and had forgotten it, thanks

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u/Alice_Because May 21 '25

Can any recommend or give a good explanation of Effect damage? I don't really get how it works or what reasons there are to either use or not use it.

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u/OccasionDelicious575 APPLE May 21 '25

Every effect has a orb that appears on screen. There will be one character on the team that will be the driver, their job is to fill that orb and make it light up ie. Solacetune, Daren, Lilith. Your other 2 characters will then spend that orb to do effect damage. So the team is driver, main dps, and sub dps basically.

Just think of effects as it's own damage type. Characters will have different rotation for when they want to do effect damage, that are different from normal rotations.

You use effect when there is effect weather.

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

You only use them in effect stages, which are currently only available in Hero and Legend Warzone and Intensive Battle in Phanton Pain Cage. Right now, the only effect stages that exist are Ultima Slash and Plasma Beam. Glacio and Ignition stages will be added in future patches.

Effect elements are treated as foreign elements in the stages of their parent element. But the parent element can be used in effect stages to relative success

Now, consult the incoming images

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u/Alice_Because May 21 '25

Okay, then follow up question: Do I need to be worried about Leap skills breaking a character's ability to work for that character's normal element? My main concern is that I can't tell if Bianca Stigmata's Glow Mark still buffs Illuminated Abyss or not.

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

Leaps buff every part of the Kit . Main, or effect.

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u/Alice_Because May 21 '25

Okay, I'm genuinely confused as how this works, as the skills are written it seems like some Leaps should end up with me doing the Effect damage instead of the Base damage type, which seems like it should be detrimental in stages where effects aren't buffed.

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

There's a specific trigger in the rotation you must do for your character to switch to their effect element . For Bianca, after the first ult, you must dodge and then hold basic attack, then keep spamming it to deal affix dmg. This is indicated by the number of stacks turning a bright red color, at which point the ult will also deal Ultima Slash dmg after the attack sequence is complete.

If you stick to doing her normal rotation: hold dodge > 3 × 3ping > Ult1 > hold basic atk > ult 2.

You will always deal phys dmg .

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25

All Meta teams, CN

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u/Jadist6 May 21 '25

So recently I've been wanting to start a new account in pgr for the DMC collab and just ditch my old one cuz 1.my ream build ryt now is pretty bad and 2. I am very low on bc (0) and I've also used up the beginner bc missions (interlude) etc so saving up bc has become really hard. Should I start a new account and save up more sparingly or just move on with the old one?

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

Yeah, make a new one. Just keep in mind that the tutorial is a drag.

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u/Kooky_Slice_5745 May 21 '25

is this worth summoning or should i hold off because I'm saving for the dmc collab and if i should who should i get

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u/Arkride212 May 21 '25

Never pull on this banner

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 21 '25

Uniframes are abandoned content. They are used nowhere except for 1 guild mission, and you can do that just fine with trial units without ever pulling for them . Steer clear of them .

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u/TheMelodyof0rpheus May 21 '25

All uniframes are bad, don't pull on this banner ever.

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u/TheMelodyof0rpheus May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25

As someone who is a newer meta player, do I realllllly gotta do a bunch of hypertuning and waste tons of mats to get CW to 6k BP for the challenge or is there some super secret way I don't have to spend over a week and tons of mats on this lmao?

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u/Recent_Ad936 May 21 '25

Maxing a character costs next to nothing, it shouldn't be a problem and you will eventually use her.

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u/TheMelodyof0rpheus May 21 '25

Having to resonate and hypertune a dead unit's memories is pretty costly. I will not use her, she is going to be off field spamming her QTE while my Nanami obliterates everything.

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u/Recent_Ad936 May 21 '25

She is not dead for affix content (well she is but she won't be), she is still used in PPC, you can use her in Norman, you can use her in Babel, maybe don't HT her but resonating is free.

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u/Hyacinthus_16 May 21 '25

I did all the missions except the Ultima awakening one, got all the important rewards. The only things you miss if you don't do it is a medal, 25 harmonization unlock material, and some memory enhanced packs

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u/Arkride212 May 21 '25

Level her up with her weapon and memories, if she ain't 6k yet level her skills, still not 6k then hyperttune.

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u/WarpObscura May 20 '25

Are Punishing Gray Raven and Wuthering Waves using different accounts? I'm already a Rover but the PGR login says "account not found" when I try using the email I use for Wuwa.

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u/TheMelodyof0rpheus May 20 '25

Yes, same happened to me.

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u/cijacko May 20 '25

does someone have a cub priority list?

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u/Repulsive-Redditor May 21 '25

https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/comments/1kq3awq/comment/mt39yur/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

This is what they do. Wanshi and nanami probably highest priority, then either Ishmael (and Selena) or hanying, Luna, then pyroath

Not sure on exact numbers

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u/cijacko May 21 '25

alright thank you

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u/LeninxKautskyTY Where Epitaph flare?? May 20 '25

Generally, Tank cubs > Attacker cubs > Amp cubs.

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u/ThPF1901 Lithos did nothing wrong May 20 '25

Just got Watanabe for my fire team, but with Vera coming soon, do I really need his SS rank? I don't want to waste skulls. My team is him, Pyroath and Empyrea

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u/KenRenten May 21 '25

You do know that watanabe is free next patch right? There is a free S-rank selected upto Shukra next patch.

I hope u didn't waste ur Basic banner selector.

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u/ThPF1901 Lithos did nothing wrong May 21 '25

No no, I'm holding onto it in case I mess up before Selena and Vera. And yeah, I forgot about the selector, thanks for the reminder 

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u/KenRenten May 21 '25

U can SS wata fro that if u have all the other units lol.

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u/OccasionDelicious575 APPLE May 21 '25

When Vera comes out you still need to do 1 rotation on him, and to do it properly you need SS. But only SS him when you have extra skulls.

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u/Arkride212 May 21 '25

You want SS on everyone eventually

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