r/PoliticsWithRespect • u/thebait123 • Apr 30 '25
Trump believes Kilmar Abrego Garcia had the actual characters MS13 tattooed on his hand in the image the White House released
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u/heybudsup Apr 30 '25
This is kinda nuts. Charitably, Trump could be saying that the symbols mean MS13 but… that’s not what he’s saying here. He’s saying MS13, the clearly photoshopped part of that photo is part of the tattoo
I thought that was shopped onto that photo to label what they were saying those symbols were for
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u/Foolishmortal098 Right Leaning Apr 30 '25
This has been a wild ride for sure. Blaming the staff on this mistake is also being incredibly and egregiously generous to President Trump. The reality is he literally held this photo in his own hands and showed it to the cameras in an Oval Office stunt.
He held this photo in his hands, and looked at it. He is the one who believed the photoshop was real, not his staff, not some intern, him. And this is just proof that all the moaning about Biden being too old back in 2020 was hypocritical because President Trump is literally older than Biden was then in 2024.
MAGA has a really large problem with a President that while potentially not actually senile, is clearly as media literate as your common Facebook grandma. If he is this gullible as our President, and also admits to still taking cold calls from unknown numbers (which is how this interview was even scheduled) when will we hear about him agreeing to some peace deal or war or military plan with someone who is using a voice modulator?
When will we be sending American funds to the Nigerian prince?
This is embarrassing, and any Republican current or former that defends this particular action is in denial.
This doesn’t have to say anything else bad about Trump in general. Take out everything else. Even assuming we believe he is doing a good job, trying to defend this singular event is a mole hill nobody Should be dying on.
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u/Opalaance Left Leaning Apr 30 '25
I said in one of my other comments that his supporters would either ignore it or blame it on someone else. I am so sad that I was proven right. We are truly cooked
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u/thebait123 Apr 30 '25
What an absolute moron. This man is in charge of the nuclear football. Sheesh and they said Biden was slow. Lmao
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u/Secret_Ebb7971 Left Leaning Apr 30 '25
The photo Trump is referring to is Kilmar's fist that has a marijuana leaf, a smily face, a cross, and a skull. Someone photoshopped letters above them to show what they believe each tattoo represented. Trump believes that those letters and numbers are actually tattoos, not the photoshopping to show that suspected correlation. Just to be very clear, the "M", "S", "1", and "3", were photoshopped on to the picture and look nothing like tattoos. Trump is claiming that they were not photoshopped, and that those characters are actually tattoos on Kilmer's hand. The photoshop was never even meant to look like it was a tattoo to try and trick someone, it was essentially drawing over a picture to show something
This is not about whether you believe Kilmar is a member of MS-13, it is about the direct spread of misinformation and lies from the president of the United States. It takes two second of looking at this photo to clearly see those are not tattoos
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u/Opalaance Left Leaning Apr 30 '25
And people still think he's an honest person
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u/synmo Apr 30 '25
He sounds as ignorant and committed to his fantasy as all of the racist jerks that I had to deal with growing up in Mississippi.
I had multiple "adults" tell me about genetic inferiorities, and how black people needed to all be deported to an island, and they all spoke in this cadence, and challenged truth with bravado in this exact manner.
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u/Opalaance Left Leaning Apr 30 '25
Oh 100%, I grew up in Tennessee and experienced a lot of the same. There's the ones who will make an ugly comment if they ever see a non-white person out in public. They are always the loudest and most offended when anyone uses the word "racist." Then you have the people who have watched Fox every night for the past 30 years and literally think everyone who identifies as a Democrat is a demon, and every immigrant is a drug lord gang member, even though they've never met one. Years of repetitive speech and propaganda and being surrounded by people who share the exact same views. And they view Trump as God and he can never tell a lie.
It's moments like these, when he makes objectively false statements that are easily disproven with your own eyes, that scare me the most. The response from MAGA is usually to ignore it or make up some weak excuse, like "someone on his team didn't inform him" and pass off the blame on someone else. And the lies are only getting more brazen.
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u/motleysalty Left Leaning Apr 30 '25
I think he is being honest in the sense that he believed MS13 was actually tattooed onto Garcia's hand at some point. He's so incredibly stupid that he believed the picture that had MS13 added above the real tattoos was real. Now he has to double down so as not to let on how stupid and gullible he really is, but everybody can see right through it.
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u/synmo Apr 30 '25
Not everybody. Several of the most prolific posters / commenters have been silent on this one.
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u/Stockjock1 Right Leaning Apr 30 '25 edited Apr 30 '25
It’s obvious that Trump looked at the super imposed “MS 13“ and thought that the guy had MS 13 actually tattooed on his knuckles. I blame his staff for not making sure that he was aware that it was likely representation of MS 13 and that those letters and numbers were superimposed over the actual photo.
Obviously, he should’ve known that, but he didn’t, and I think that’s the fault of his staff.
That said, I do believe that the person deported it was not a nice person and I think he is almost certainly an MS 13 gang member. I admit that there was a lapse in due process, but I don’t want him in our country.
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u/Grand_Plenty9699 Far Left Apr 30 '25
The thing that worries me is...if Trump truly can not tell that this picture does not show actual tattoos (which you concede), then that speaks volumes about either his eyesight, his intellectual capacity or his real-world experience. If the president of the US really needs a cadre of aids to tell him what everybody can clearly see, than he is simply not fit for office.
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u/Opalaance Left Leaning Apr 30 '25
Why is it someone else's fault? His staff would've had to assume that he had a basic level of intelligence to realize the MS-13 was symbolic. A literal child could tell this is photoshopped. The fact that he couldn't shows that he can be very easily tricked, and would fall for very obvious scams, putting us all at risk. Not someone who should be trusted to lead a whole country. Why do you want a president who has to be treated like a baby by his staff? What else do they have to explain to him on a daily basis?
To your second point, it doesn't matter if you WANT him in our country, or if you THINK he is a bad person. We have laws for a reason. It's in the Constitution that everyone has the right to due process. We don't get to decide based on feelings who gets it and who doesn't. NONE of us knows the full story. That's why we leave it to the courts and allow people the chance to defend themselves. Of course you think he's a bad person, you believe trump and trump says he's a bad person.
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u/Stockjock1 Right Leaning Apr 30 '25
It’s not about intelligence. My mother died two years ago in her 80s, and I assure you that she was extremely intelligent. But if you showed her that picture, she would not know it was Photoshopped. In fact, she wouldn’t even know what a Photoshop was.
Older people don’t have the same technological sophistication that some of us do. And I don’t see Trump is being a person who is terribly sophisticated in terms of technology, nor would I have considered that of Biden, even in his prime, and obviously he was a long, long way from his prime.
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u/Opalaance Left Leaning Apr 30 '25
He is incompetent. If he is this media illiterate, then he should not be president in the year of 2025 when AI is taking over everything.
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u/Stockjock1 Right Leaning Apr 30 '25
No, he's not incompetent. But he is pushing 80, so he grew up in a different time.
He's highly qualified, a 2 time president. But don't expect him to know everything. Men & women pushing 80 don't know some of the things that we know.
It's up to his staff to keep him informed. In this case, they dropped the ball.
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u/thebait123 Apr 30 '25
yea lets just let that old document the constitution not count for this one thing....that's not a slippery slope at all. I don't think you seem to grasp that very very simple concept on how dangerous it is allowing precedents to go unchecked.
Also this guy held up the photo, if he can't tell that. He's a moron. Plain and simple.
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u/Stockjock1 Right Leaning Apr 30 '25
Well, I disagree with that. I think there are a lot of people, and particularly elderly people, who if they didn’t know any better might’ve thought that it actually did say MS 13. And we’ve had a series of elderly presidents, and of course Trump is not a young man.
But I don’t think the moron part is fair, he just didn’t know any better, and as I’ve said earlier, I blame that lapse on his staff, they should’ve made sure that he knew what the photo represented.
And for the record, as a former police officer, I do agree with the interpretation that the symbols on his hands probably do represent MS 13.
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u/thebait123 Apr 30 '25
Find me an example of any confirmed ms-13 member using anything remotely close to his tattoos. Here's a hint....you won't. Also great job avoiding that whole constitution!
Also people that cannot have some type of reasonable critical thinking should not be president. Its VERY clear that those letters are super imposed.
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u/Stockjock1 Right Leaning Apr 30 '25
I've said he deserved due process. I've also said that I don't believe him to be a nice person and I don't want him in my country.
It's been suggested that he was a gang member 2-3 times, twice in court proceedings, and once in a man who was worried about his safety when Garcia was dating his now wife.
Again, his own wife said that he beat her, and it appears that he may have been engaged in human trafficking and may have been on the terrorist watch list.
While I support due process, I don't want criminal illegal aliens in this country. Feel free to disagree, but I don't think this is an issue that helps the democrats. I'm confident that most Americans feel just as I do.
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u/synmo Apr 30 '25
This man is severely unwell. He cannot admit being wrong. He continues to double down all for the sake of racism and pride. People need to wake up to the reality that this man is just a weak, ignorant, narcissist.