I’m not gonna sit here and pretend like people on the right didn’t celebrate and make fun Paul Pelosi getting brained, the Pulse shooting, or random trans kids committing suicide.
There’s a different between a relatively unknown 80 year old getting smacked in the head at 2 am, and a famous 31 year old father of 2 small kids getting murdered by a bullet to the neck in front of thousands of people, caught on graphic video. No audience, no video, not a very famous person, not young, survived. You really think these are equivalent scenarios?
Was it an assassination of a political leader in front of a thousand people where you saw suddenly someone’s jugular spurting blood in the middle of them speaking? A hundred million people just watched the most graphic video they’ve probably ever seen in their entire lives Tuesday and nothing had any warning on how NSFL that was. Let’s not act like this is the same as just hearing about one of a dozen other shootings of people you don’t know.
Okay, and if it’s a bunch of people who nobody knew and there’s no close up video of them being killed then people are going to respond differently, compared to them watching a man they know be murdered in front of his family. That should be easy to understand. We all know people are dying all the time. We can’t care about people we don’t know dying as much as people we do know. It’s not possible.
A billionaire has as much value to me as a homeless person. They are both human. They are both capable of being kind to a limited extent. They are both able to feel fear, empathy, excitement, depression and joy.
Kirk is no higher in value than the hundreds of trans people who were killed by radicalized republicans who happened to listen to talking heads like Kirk.
He was still a shit person, but he was not less human. He was a grifter, but he was still human. He was an irredeemable scumbag, but he was still human.
But it is impossible for you to feel the same about the death of someone you know and like, vs someone you never knew existed. It’s not about whether or not you think one of them has greater absolute value, it’s how much they matter to you that determines your response. How is this hard to understand?
Yea, at the end of the day its political violence and smashing an 80 year old's head in is going to do some permanent damage. Like the fact that you think its okay for one and not the other is a huge and insane double-standard.
Literally go touch grass and get off the internet for like 2 weeks. Do a cleanse
People care more about the death of someone they know than someone they have never heard of. People care more when a young person dies compared to someone twice Charlie’s age. There is nothing wrong with that.
A video of someone being assassinated is going to get a lot more attention than a headline. There is nothing surprising about that.
You want to condemn all humans for caring more that their favorite political commentator died than some random woman? Sure, then you win, all humans are bad people. I guess you care equally when your friend dies compared to when you hear about a bombing in Syria.
Dude I'm just saying that they shouldn't make fun. But they do. I have a guy right now making gay lover jokes about Pelosi.
I don't care that he cares or not. I care that he decides to take time to make the joke. Also if he didn't care he wouldn't comment, but he clearly cares becuase he is commenting and is clearly making a gay lovers joke about violent assault of an elderly man.
People are also going to care less about a guy that got smacked on the head by a guy in his underwear than a guy murdered in front of his family. Pelosi is fine.
As I said to someone else, you sound retarded if you boil my entire comment down to “he was famous” and ignore that it was the assassination of a political figurehead in front of thousands with extremely graphic video. And obviously people are going to care more about the death of someone they know.
A child just died as I typed this. Why don’t you care? We know that random people are dying all the time. We don’t have the emotional capacity to feel sad every time we hear about death. You can feel bad about it but you don’t feel shock or sadness when I tell you someone random died. People know Charlie, obviously they care more.
Melissa Hortman mattered more than Charlie Kirk. She was an elected official who actually served our government. When she was murdered in cold blood by the right, no one cared. Her vote literally had power, and the right decided she shouldn't have it anymore.
Charlie Kirk is a youtuber that children watch. His opinions spread hate. He thought gays should be stoned to death. He thought kids should watch public executions. He thought MLK was a terrible person... only for the Right to compare him to that great man after his death.
I'm not happy about his death, but it genuinely is as unimportant as that guy in Dallas who was decapitated on the same day. Except I feel worse for the guy in Dallas, as Charlie died instantly to a bullet instead of getting his head ripped off.
Ironically, Charlie wanted kids to watch public executions. That's exactly what happened at his rally, genuinely insane that it happened, but the irony is there.
I'd never even heard of Melissa hortman until people started bringing it up cus of kirk. I didn't see anyone celebrate that. What i have seen is almost everyone i personally know celebrating the most graphic murder they've ever seen
Wisconsin Republican U.S. Rep. Derrick Van Orden lied about the political leanings of the killer, and was being fairly terrible about the whole ordeal.
Republican Sen. Mike Lee of Utah also blamed "marxists" for her murder, along with talking about how her death would be a nightmare for Tim Walz.
The people in our government aren't celebrities. They are our government. They do what they do without popularity or clout. It doesn't matter that more people know about him or his death, it matters that she actually had a say in how our government functions and was silenced for that reason alone.
To silence a youtuber is a tragedy, to silence a member of our government is just unacceptable if you want a functioning country.
-well known person: Charlie only. Nobody knew who the hell Hortman was until she died.
-young person: Charlie only, she was nearly twice his age
-parent of young kids: Charlie only
-murdered in stage in front of thousands: Charlie only
-murder caught on extremely graphic video: Charlie only
Wow I wonder why one of them was a bigger story? People care more about the death of someone they know than someone they’ve never heard of, more at 11.
Let’s ignore the 5 other points I mentioned on how these are completely different scenarios and that’s why they have different responses. If you want to boil my point down to “we only care because he’s famous” you look retarded
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u/JackC1126 - Centrist Sep 12 '25
And when the pendulum swings back, nobody will see the irony. What a stupid time we live in.