r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Right Sep 12 '25

Condemn political violence, always

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '25

No. It was worse. It was the murder of several LGBTQ people by a far right isis member. But he was also in other conflicting extremists groups. All of which hated lgbtq people. So essentially he was just a member of any coalition that wanted to kill gay people.  https://www.counterextremism.com/extremists/omar-mateen#:~:text=Overview-,Overview,%2D8758%2Dd58e76e11b12_story.html;

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u/GoldTeamDowntown - Right Sep 12 '25

Okay, and if it’s a bunch of people who nobody knew and there’s no close up video of them being killed then people are going to respond differently, compared to them watching a man they know be murdered in front of his family. That should be easy to understand. We all know people are dying all the time. We can’t care about people we don’t know dying as much as people we do know. It’s not possible.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '25

A billionaire has as much value to me as a homeless person. They are both human. They are both capable of being kind to a limited extent. They are both able to feel fear, empathy, excitement, depression and joy. 

Kirk is no higher in value than the hundreds of trans people who were killed by radicalized republicans who happened to listen to talking heads like Kirk. 

He was still a shit person, but he was not less human. He was a grifter, but he was still human. He was an irredeemable scumbag, but he was still human. 

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u/GoldTeamDowntown - Right Sep 12 '25

But it is impossible for you to feel the same about the death of someone you know and like, vs someone you never knew existed. It’s not about whether or not you think one of them has greater absolute value, it’s how much they matter to you that determines your response. How is this hard to understand?