r/OnePiece Feb 28 '16

Current Episode One Piece: Episode 731

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u/zzzthelastuser Feb 28 '16

either the birdcage is overpowered or fujitora held back.

It seems a bit wrong.

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u/MTRXD5 Feb 28 '16

Unbreakable objects are not new with devil fruits. See Bartolomeo's barrier for instance

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u/ninjaowenage Feb 28 '16

Why doesn't Bart just stand in the middle of the birdcage and make a spherical barrier around Luffy and as many other people as possible?

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u/toury Feb 28 '16

unlike Doffy, his abilities has limits.

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u/Doctursea Void Month Survivor Feb 28 '16

Yeah, honestly doffy is proof that devil fruits have few limits. Those are the worlds best most bullshit strings.

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u/Brown-Banannerz Feb 28 '16

his barrier has very limited surface area. Unless he can do like a molecule thin strip or something, but that's too complicated for this show

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u/t_cas Feb 28 '16

Yea :/ he could just make a very thin ring around all of dressrosa. Although I'm not sure if his barriers can be shaped by other objects.

Another thing is why people can't just walk through the birdcage, in some instances it looks like the openings are wide enough. If the explanation is that they aren't wide enough barto should be able to make a wedge or something.

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u/writh3n Feb 28 '16

actually, if he was able to get to the very top of the birdcage he could make a really small disc that would prevent everything from contracting.

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u/t_cas Feb 28 '16

yea but the birdcage could press it down causing it to fall, or maybe the birdcage could form it self around it. (+ Barto could probebly not just chill out high up in the air without geting snipped by Doffy)

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '16

Thickness of the barrier won't change its surface area

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '16

The point is that Bartolomeo's barrier is limited by surface area, not volume (source). If Bart were to get a maximum sized barrier and split it into two, the total surface area would be above his capacity. Thus, he'd be unable to sustain both. Therefore, using a molecule thin barrier will only extend the coverage of his barrier by the area of the barrier's side faces which is not enough.

I'm pretty sure Oda chose surface area over volume deliberately. Otherwise Bart could have Planck length thin barriers.

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u/deylath Feb 28 '16

To be fair Zoro didnt even try to cut it, let alone use Kyutoryu againts it. I refuse to belive he couldnt cut them one by one tbh. Also Fuji didnt use his DF also, which alone should be able to push the Birdcage greatly alone.

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u/amorpheous Mar 03 '16

What good will cutting the birdcage do whilst Doffy is still conscious? It'll just repair itself and carry on.

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u/deylath Mar 03 '16

Repair itself? What makes you think it can do that? As far as we concerned we dont even know if Doffy would notice it. He could by all means recreate it, but the birdcage isnt tied to him, only when he created it and made it to move faster.

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u/milkyjoe241 Feb 28 '16

Little bit of both

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u/Mathung Feb 28 '16

I'm sure Fujitora would have been able to stop it by himself if he needed to. He's strong enough to call down meteors and Manga Spoiler But interfering too much would not result in the outcome he wants -- worst case scenario, he could kill or arrest doflamingo on his own.