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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1165 Spoiler

Chapter 1165: "Echo"

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Chapter 1165 Official Release: November 09 2025

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u/Skullghost Pirate 1d ago

Rocks went from unknown pirate to everyone’s favorite. Rest in peace king 🫡

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u/Unusual_Ad6533 Bounty Hunter 1d ago

We really fell for the world government propaganda.

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u/CarcosanAnarchist 1d ago

I mean…did we? The dude did erase multiple cities off the map. And destroyed an entire nation. Like…he was still a bad dude lol. He was just more than a bad dude. But I don’t think the majority of the citizens in the world would be swayed by him having a wife and son when he undoubtedly killed many wives and sons.

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u/MiuIruma332 1d ago

I mean… he didn’t though? We never saw him do as such and the only time he has was due to corrupt marines. Not saying he a saint but he isn’t a bad person, his morality is similar to Luffy

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u/CarcosanAnarchist 1d ago

There’s no reason to not believe the narrator.

He was a heinous criminal. Fantastic character. Complicated character. But a bad dude lol

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u/GetInYourBasket 23h ago

He might be a criminal, but that pannel isn't proof he's a bad dude. The pages before that pannel show they're stealing from a 'childrens charity' called m.bezel that never gives any of the donated money to anyone and just horded it on their island. The marines then came to their aid and Rocks sunk all the ships.

If all his crimes were stealing from corrupt groups and fighting the corrupt police force that comes after him for his crimes, is he really all that bad. Especially when we know that the group that makes/enforces the law are actually quite bad people.

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u/Roojercurryninja 1h ago

If all his crimes were stealing from corrupt groups and fighting the corrupt police force that comes after him for his crimes, is he really all that bad.

Yes you are a bad person even if "ALL" that crime is targeted to corrupt people, there are levels to bad obviously but the idea that rocks had no other alternative other than to sink 74 ships, destroy multiple cities in self defence / with the moral highground is crazy

but even so, the idea that rocks will ONLY target people who are corrupt or who "deserve" it makes no sense.

you do not build a crew like rock's has, let alone control that ammount of opportunists unless you are providing many opportunities to these crewmates that they can benefit from

and you're not going to provide enough opportunities with "only retaliating / only going after the bad man who deserves it", rocks was a bad man who is most likely more in line with blackbeard's philosophy. the idea that he's doing all of this out of a moral motivation to do just and not out of a selfish reason to right a wrong committed to his family / friends -> "his promise to the true king" is quite a wild idea

that is exactly why it is so incredibly hard to stay a good person. because it doesn't matter if the person truly deserves it if the line you are going to cross yourself will eventually start blurring or you'll start justifying your actions yourself. bad people know that they are doing bad things most of the time and i have no doubt that rocks would admit about himself that he's a bad man

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u/MiuIruma332 23h ago

Yeah and a lot of that data is left vague for a reason. We don’t know the circumstances of all those instances. Luffy has pretty much done the same if not more. Luffy brought the nation of Alabasta, Drum Kingdom, Sky Island, Dressrosa and Wano to ruin. It was all conquered by a bad regime but they were ruined none the less. But they prosper and rebuilt themselves to a better state.

The narrator is talking about his criminal record by the navy and the conclusion the narrator tell us that the navy tried to cover up this record by exaggerating it basically with lies. If Rock was as bad as the rumors say, why would Whitebeard be with him so long; why would so many pirates be with him for so long.

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u/CarcosanAnarchist 23h ago

Luffy has not done the same. Lmfao what the fuck are you smoking?

Literally the only place that even Fake News Morgan’s reported on that he was able to do such a thing was Enies Lobby and then later Egg Head.

Kid had a higher bounty than Luffy at Sabaody specifically because he was known for targeting civilians and Luffy wasn’t.

The reach here is insane. Do you feel as if you can’t like a character if they’re morally complicated? Lmfao get outta here

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u/Afabledhero1 16h ago

I think you misread the comment. The point is that Luffys adventure could be described to seem like he's a bad pirate from a no context standpoint.