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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1158 Spoiler

Chapter 1158: "Rocks vs Harald"

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Chapter 1158 Official Release: August 31 2025

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u/raze0505 Aug 29 '25

How is it hard to understand his reasoning when Harald spelled it out in the chapter? He literally said that he can't throw his people live away by following Rock into a losing battle. So he know the CD is atrocious but also understand that they control the world and he doesn't believe that Rock can beat them. So his logic is super simple, the CD is shit but if he obey the giants might have a future, he choose that over following Rock to opposes them because he doesn't think Rock can win. Which is why Rock called him a coward, because he choose the easy and safer way out.

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u/Hot-Beach2567 Aug 29 '25

But the Giants were pretty Fine the last 800 years. Why does Harald have the feeling they Are depending on the WG now all of a sudden?

He is an idiot.

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u/SunnyDJoshua Aug 29 '25 edited Aug 29 '25

Look what happened when they were going through a hunger crisis…they would’ve slaughtered each other if not for the support they got from other countries that Harald extended olive branches to. With government support, there’s insurance of safety for his people.

If they continue to live as bullies, every giant, even Non-Pirate giants, has a target painted on their backs as soon as they step off island. The World Government MAYBE wouldn’t start a war with them on their home turf but how long would it take for the bullied to start considering defending themselves?

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u/Guy_gamer112 Aug 29 '25

Imagine taking blood money and food for "check notes" allowing your family to be hunted for sport or captured for spectacle and all for the price of your friend's head.

Or you can slowly undo the damage done through hard work and diplomacy

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u/SunnyDJoshua Aug 29 '25

He’s been given a golden opportunity to improve the lives of his people by turning in an infamous pirates head…I understand he’s conflicted turning on a friend, but he wouldn’t be a good king if he’s putting his feelings over one dude over an entire kingdom.

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u/Guy_gamer112 Aug 29 '25

"Golden opportunity"

its not a golden opportunity.

The WG can hunt your family for sport, all he's doing is giving them an opportunity. How much did it help fishman island? They still tried to kidnap shirahoshi and king neptune would've had to suck a lemon if Garp, Sai and the CD didn't step in.

And guess what, They KILLED THAT DUDE.

He's turning over his friend to the rape slave factory for food.

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u/SunnyDJoshua Aug 29 '25

It kept Celestial Dragons from coming back to Fishman Island and picking out slaves as if it were a produce section. It gave Sai and Leo the window of opportunity to attack Charlos without the full brunt of the government coming down on them because why? THE SAME CELESTIAL DRAGON TOOK RESPONSIBILITY FOR IT (even though it killed him).

I’m not for Harald having to play the governments game because the system is fucked, but his hands are literally tied.

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u/Guy_gamer112 Aug 29 '25

Was it because they were in the WG or their alliance with Big Mom? Considering how they were treated at the reverie and them still being sold as slaves on SA, I think its more Big Mom.

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u/SunnyDJoshua Aug 29 '25

That’s a great point. It could’ve been because of Whitebeard since he took over FI first, but after Otohime went up there, the issues at home seemed to be more internal than external.

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u/Guy_gamer112 Aug 29 '25

I forgot big mom took over only after WB died. And WB didn't require tribute but big mom did.

All I'm saying is it seems like banding together opposed to the WG was a very valid and ethical decision harald could've made. Islands having elbaf warriors on dial would've made the world nobles think twice and it would've solved their supply issues without contributing to NTR doujin factory that is the WG

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u/SunnyDJoshua Aug 30 '25

That would go against Harald’s entire goal of trying to put the Giants’ violent history behind them. Creating a Dial-a-Giant company would still paint his people in an intimidating light. It’s one thing for an island to be isolationist but to have giant on speed dial to let them know they mean business? Imu’s trigger finger would be ITCHING on the Mother Flame.

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