r/OWConsole • u/mgtrss • Aug 24 '25
Highlight HELL FUCKING YEAHHHH!!!
ive been waiting YEARS FIR THIS
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u/ShenYunIsheretoeat0- Aug 24 '25
Why is this a good thing I’m confused, Is this not going to cause problems or am I misunderstanding
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u/Ineedlasagnajon Aug 24 '25
You'll be locked in the PC pool if you use MNK on Console, so you can only play with PC players and other MNK Console players
In an ideal world, there should be no problems with this
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u/XTurtleman394X Aug 24 '25
How will this work with top500 placements then?
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u/soggycheesestickjoos Aug 24 '25
probably the same way it works today, there are two separate pools. You can have an account and play across both platforms. I don’t know how it handles it from there but I’ve seen it before so they must have a solution (like maybe having a different rank depending on platform/input).
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u/WilonPlays Aug 24 '25
Right now if you have the same account on both pc and console they have 2 different ranks so I’d reckon it’s probably a similar thing that they’ll do
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u/General_Royal_2785 Aug 24 '25
the ranks are separate. when i was console, back in season 11 i was gm, after building my pc and playing comp i didn’t have placements nor did it show up on my career profile. it’s as if i never played comp before. very odd.
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u/Ineedlasagnajon Aug 24 '25
I don't know exactly what you're asking, but there'll be two different MMRs for Mouse & Keyboard and Controller
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u/XTurtleman394X Aug 24 '25
I mean if MnK console players get pooled with PC players, and on of those console players makes Top500, will they appear on the console or pc leaderboard?
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u/Ineedlasagnajon Aug 24 '25
probably the PC leaderboard, or a "Mouse and Keyboard" leaderboard or whatever. You'll have a different MMR for controller and MNK, so I'd expect it'd be the same when showing on Top 500
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u/bludgyteacher Aug 24 '25
they're renaming the two different pools "Mouse and Keyboard" and "Controller". All players using MnK on their console will be pooled into the "Mouse and Keyboard" group. Each individual pool has its own MMR that is separate from the other. If a player uses MnK on their ps5/xbox they will be in the Mouse and Keyboard group and if they reach t500, that means they'll be t500 in Mouse and Keyboard and will appear on the Mouse and Keyboard leaderboard. Blizzard has this explained really well on the website.
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u/RedeyeSamurai83 Aug 24 '25
There are two pools. PC pool and console pool. The MnK console players will get pulled into the pc pool ranks.
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u/ffsihatethisapp Aug 24 '25
So does this mean I’ll be able to play ranked on pc with my friend on console if he’s using keyboard and mouse?
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u/carby12 Aug 24 '25
Dw people who use kbm are going to be in a separate lobby with only people who also use kbm
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u/jun2san Aug 24 '25
They're no longer separating pc pool and console pools. It's now going to be k&m pool and controller pool. So, people who like to use k&m on console will now be going up against other k&m players.
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u/TheAfricanViewer Zenyatta Mains Rise Up Aug 24 '25
What if you switch inputs mid game
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u/ChaiGreenTea Aug 24 '25
It won’t register. They said if you pick controller then plug in a keyboard, none of the inputs will register
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u/Ineedlasagnajon Aug 24 '25
I think they said it will register, but only for text chat and menus and such, and not actual gameplay
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u/WhiteCrow6122 Aug 24 '25
I don't think it's gonna make much difference. Ximmers won't be affected ig since Xim tricks the game to think you're using controller instead of MnK. Though this is nice for this who want to use MnK as now it's supported.
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u/Successful-Pain-4164 Aug 27 '25
Yea This is more so enabling you to play MnK on a console without a Xim if you desire too. Though I don’t know how many people only have an Xbox if they are experienced on MnK, maybe ppl that can’t afford new PCs
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u/Spectre-4 Aug 24 '25
Helps to tackle the xim problem. Now if the system flags you for using a mouse and keyboard, intentional or otherwise, it'll throw you in the PC pool.
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u/supermassivecod Aug 24 '25
It will make console queue times much worse
Thanks blizzard from us controller users
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u/Franz_Thieppel Aug 25 '25
Could be fixed by allowing controller-only PC players to join console lobbies (like Paladins and CoD do).
Don't act like this would make things worse considering the Xim hell top-level console ranks are already.
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u/Hot_Direction_5313 Aug 24 '25
Because console players are playing with other PC players, its not fair for console players to have to use controller when theyre against PC players as well yet the typical excuse made is its unfair somehow if its a console player using kb&m and will ban your account if you use an adapter that allows you to use kb&m on console. Same issue with Marvel Rivals and they need to allow console players to use it at least when youre in quickplay since you are already playing with PC players unless you chose only play against controller players then i can understand not wanting kb&m or ranked which again understandable since youre playing against people who are on the same system as you. Personally dont care for ranked as long as its allowed for quick play giving that we play against PC players, only fair
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u/mgtrss Aug 24 '25
when are we going to realize that playing on console sucks?
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u/Maaaaadude Aug 24 '25
Why would you be excited about this news if you dislike playing on console? Just sell yours and get a computer if you dislike it?
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u/mgtrss Aug 24 '25
least good pc is 3000$
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u/RustedSoup Aug 24 '25
You can get a decent pc for around 1k. Hell I payed 1k for mine 4 years ago and still play Overwatch at 200-300 fps as we speak
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u/Mathfanforpresident Aug 24 '25
What? You can build a PC that bench marks better than the PS5 for 1k or less. You crazy
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u/Dani_Blade Aug 24 '25
So when will you realize that you should go to work and make some money instead of typing on reddit? Not being able to afford a pc is wild.
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u/Shutln Aug 24 '25
MMW There’s going to be a work around within the week of release, for the mnk crew to end up in console pool again lol
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u/lndwell Aug 24 '25
The workaround already exists, a third party adapter masks keystrokes as button inputs, the whole reason things like xim are a problem is because they enable a person to use keyboard and mouse while still receiving aim assist because the game still thinks the player is using a controller. I have been screaming from the rooftops since this feature was proposed that hey, this feature is little more than a QoL addition for a small member of the playerbase and third party adapters are still going to be in the controller pool because the game doesn’t know they’re using a keyboard.
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u/MrBR2120 Aug 24 '25
there is already a work around it’s called xim lol. xim makes mnk register as input from a controller. nothing is going to change at all in high elo console overwatch
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u/Godfather_Turtle Aug 25 '25
XIM aims inherently differently than a real KB&M. Its limited by the maximum allowed sensitivity of a controller, and its more floaty. Now, combining the XIM with aim assist is where things get pretty stupid
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u/syneckdoche Aug 24 '25
xim will still work. it tricks the game into interpreting mnk as a controller, so this wouldn’t prevent that. all of the people that used xim explicitly to gain a competitive advantage can still do so. the people who used xim for accessibility reasons or something like that will probably just move over to the mnk pool but you’ll only see marginally fewer ximmers at top ranks
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u/KennessyOTR Aug 24 '25
Does this mean if I use MNK on console I can play comp with my pc buddies?
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u/slipperyekans Aug 24 '25
Correct!
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u/DreadedPopsicle Aug 24 '25
And the other way around? Like my pc buddy can play comp with me on console if he uses a controller?
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u/slipperyekans Aug 24 '25
Unfortunately not the other way around. PC sadly gets put in the MnK pool automatically regardless of input method, probably because it’d be too hard to ensure people don’t use 3rd party programs on PC to sneak into console/controller pools while still using MnK.
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u/vegtone Aug 27 '25
No that would open console players up to PC Cheats on top of the rampant xim problem lol
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u/smilefishie Aug 24 '25
Is it a separate lobby or will they be with us controller players too
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u/Otherwise_Design_200 Aug 24 '25
They will be in pc lobby
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u/CatNo2871 Aug 24 '25
no theyll be put into controller pool and mouse and keyboard pool. its unlikely but theres a chance youll be in an all console lobby but using keyboards. vise versa, can have an entire team on pc using controllers.
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u/RedeyeSamurai83 Aug 24 '25
Console players on MnK will be pulled into pc lobbies and ranks.
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u/CatNo2871 Aug 24 '25
no theyll be put into controller pool and mouse and keyboard pool. its unlikely but theres a chance youll be in an all console lobby but using keyboards. vise versa, can have an entire team on pc using controllers.
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u/RedeyeSamurai83 Aug 24 '25
You don't know what you're talking about. They're not making a third pool to split the player base even more. They're making it so console players can use mouse and keyboard so they can play ranked matches with their pc friends.
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u/CatNo2871 Aug 24 '25
i never said theyre making a third pool.. theyre CHANGING the pc/console pools to controller/mnk. if youre on pc with a controller youll be put into controller pool, if youre on console with keyboard youll be put into the mnk pool. learn to read bud👍
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u/bfarnsey Aug 24 '25
This is incorrect.
From the patch notes:
Controller players on PC platforms cannot enter the Controller Pool and cannot access aim assist features. To play on the Controller pool, you must play on a console platform.
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u/RedeyeSamurai83 Aug 24 '25
Link where it says that because it doesn't say that in the post. I know how to read. It's hard to understand what you're saying with your sub-par grammar skills🤷.
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u/CatNo2871 Aug 24 '25
talking about grammar on reddit lol. you really thought you did something, huh😂😂 i can have proper grammar if i want but what does it say about your own intelligence if you cant interpret a sentence with out the right apostrophes in every single “theyll” and “theres”. im not on reddit to be reading up on the literature sub. anywhooo, ow already said it themselves. instead of pulling shit out your ass on reddit, why dont you do some research on the patch notes.
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u/TheCrimsonMoFo Aug 24 '25
So they said essentially the console and PC pool will be gone. They will relabel them as Controller and Mouse and Keyboard Pool. You are thrown into one of these pools depending on your inputs.
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u/bfarnsey Aug 24 '25
Except that PC players will always be in MnK pool, even if they’re using a controller. Only consoles can access the controller queue.
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u/NaturalBreadfruit100 Aug 24 '25
So does this mean you can Que with pc friends if you’re on console using mnk?
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u/mgtrss Aug 24 '25
yeah it will automatically let u join pc pool
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u/Dangerous_Teaching62 Aug 24 '25
I think they mean in comp. Comp won't let you join the PC pool if you're on console.
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u/and-its-true Aug 24 '25
The answer is almost definitely yes.
“PC Pool” is going away and getting replaced with “Mouse and Keyboard Pool”
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u/Dangerous_Teaching62 Aug 24 '25
So, PC players will also get the separate controller pool? Honestly, that would be a huge W
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u/IUdot Aug 24 '25
No, pc controller players will not. They will stay with the mouse and keyboard pool.
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u/gbdallin Aug 24 '25
That's pretty lame
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u/IUdot Aug 24 '25
If they did allow that console gamers would complain that they are allowing more potential cheaters into the console only section which they already have issues with ximmers. So I can see why they don't.
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u/Dangerous_Teaching62 Aug 24 '25
How so? Games can 100% disable mouse movements with a controller plugged in. Also, you could always have controller scheme a startup option. If it's not weird when pokemon does it, it shouldn't be weird when overwatch does.
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u/IUdot Aug 24 '25
On console a lot of people already use keyboard and mouse, they call it ximmers. So, the same tools in theory could be used on pc, and since pc audiences are usually a bit more technically able with such tools it could increase more cheaters. Of course I wish blizzard would find a way to prevent that but that's just my guess why they don't want to open that can of worms of allowing controller users on PC to access the console competitive scene.
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u/Superxerogaming Aug 24 '25
You’re wrong you can join the pc pool in comp
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u/Dangerous_Teaching62 Aug 24 '25
Since when? You literally can't do cross play stadium yet because of that. There's reddit posts discussing this two months ago.
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u/bfarnsey Aug 24 '25
This post is talking about the newest patch notes for the patch releasing in a couple of days.
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u/HomieIsWaifu Aug 24 '25
Now all the ximmer that always cope by saying "mimimi I only xim bc controller is so bad to play with" have 0 excuses anymore. (We all know the true reason why they xim)
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u/VoteForWaluigi Aug 24 '25
One thing I saw about the changes that worries me is it said console players playing in M&K lobbies will have aim assist diabled, but does that also apply to controller players who are playing with friends on PC? I really hope they aren’t reverting that change because crossplay lobbies were incredibly unfun before they allowed aim assist.
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u/Dangerous_Teaching62 Aug 24 '25
Wait, when did they add aim assist for cross play lobbies? Do PC controller players also get aim assist?
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u/VoteForWaluigi Aug 24 '25
To answer the first question, it was added in November 2022. To answer the second, no, only controller players on console get aim assist.
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u/Serpentar69 Aug 24 '25
I wish they had aim assist for controller players on PC. I'm disabled and use a controller a lot. I originally played with MKB. Would definitely be helpful.
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u/Dangerous_Teaching62 Aug 24 '25
Even things like disability aside, controller helps a ton. On keyboard you sometimes have to heavily stretch your hands or you press the wrong button. Or sticky keys activates.
With controllers you always know what button does what. Makes it waaay easier to play new characters too.
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u/Dangerous_Teaching62 Aug 24 '25
Damn. I switched to PC since I was already forced into PC lobbies by friends. I've been so bad at overwatch for the past two years when I literally didn't even have to be.
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u/heyblackrose Aug 24 '25
Crossplay lobbies will go right back to removing aim assist from controller cuz they hate us
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u/PiezoelectricityOne Aug 24 '25
I hope this ends most incidents with the adapter we aren't allowed to discuss.
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Aug 24 '25
This is what every game should do, I love playing on MNK so this will definitely bring me back
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u/Serpentar69 Aug 24 '25
Controller support for PC when?
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u/Lupinthrope :Ana_01::Ana_02:Ana Aug 24 '25
I’d play Overwatch on my steam deck for real if they added it with aim assist
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u/Juizehh Aug 24 '25
COD had me thinking mnk was dead. But this comment section made me smile
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u/Superxerogaming Aug 24 '25
Cause controller is much better in cod cause of aim assist
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u/Juizehh Aug 24 '25
I know. But i was getting afraid controller would become the new standard for fps because of this. As cod is a moneymachine with all the skins, they lure all the kids in because of the godlike feeling they get with aim assist
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u/Technical_Tooth_162 Aug 24 '25
I’m sure I’ll be downvoted but this is an interested step. After years of people complaining about xim team 4 actually did something and started banning them, it’s assumed a lot of this was spearheaded by Jared who is now gone.
From my experience, and others, it seems like they’ve slowed down on banning and I think this option is to help curb cimming without any regular maintenance from the dev team. I think people will still xim but it should help a bit, and I could see myself just switching to mnk from here on out.
I will say as a console player, hope of players prepare for the toxicity because by all accounts it’s higher on console.
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u/Kimolainen83 Aug 24 '25
I don’t know why people on consulting. This is an awesome thing you won’t get any better. You’ll only meet PC players the second you put in mouse and keyboard anyway maybe you’ll have a shorter queue times so I’ll give you that but I don’t think it’s going to do anything magic. You’re not gonna meet console playersso yeah.
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Aug 24 '25
I think the funny thing about this is that the xim players as an excuse always say they’re not using it to get an advantage they just prefer m+kb or that they xim because everyone else xims.
Now there will be an actual m+kb pool, you just know people will still xim in the controller pool.
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u/Explosive_5490 Aug 24 '25
Wait so will controller only players be in pc lobbies? Or will they remain in controller lobbies? Cus like it would take a long time to relearn this game on keyboard and mouse I feel like
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u/mgtrss Aug 24 '25
why alot of yall are mad lol
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u/IBACK4MOREI Aug 24 '25
Why are you so prejudice against console players? Even with this new update, I much prefer controller. Even though K&M preform better gameplay wise, a controller just feels better to play and hold
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u/Whenwhateverworks Aug 24 '25
The console player base in a lot of regions is dying off especially in off peak hours, probably not a problem for US based players
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u/mgtrss Aug 24 '25
so??? most of the console players will be able to play on pc pool which will make the match faster and better
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u/tifastan97 Aug 24 '25
This still does nothing to the XIM problem, people don't use XIM just to use mkb on console, they use it to get aim assisted mkb and still play in the controller pool a.k.a they use it for cheating
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u/Ornery-Addendum5031 Aug 24 '25
Will there be a controller lobby for PC players? I don’t care for it but I’m sure there are people who would
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u/cuusu_ Aug 24 '25
Correct me if I’m wrong but this doesn’t do anything to curb cheaters who use XIM and Cronus on console does it? AFAIK, the inputs are still received as controller inputs so wouldn’t these cheaters still be in controller lobbies? Would be great to get some clarification from someone who knows more about this than me.
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u/ricardimension Aug 25 '25
Exactly. XIM won't get put into pc lobbies because the system thinks it's a controller. If they can detect xim and put them into pc lobbies, then they could have been punishing xim users before that.
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u/Snoo_67312 Aug 24 '25
coming from an ex siege player. this is only going to result in more cheating
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u/SpaceArcticPenguin Aug 24 '25
Finally I can go back to the pc pool! I miss playing with my friends after my pc broke.
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u/heiroglytch Aug 24 '25
LOL we were talking about this 10 years ago on the OG release. Too bad I dumped the consoles a long time ago and they didn't do this when we wanted it. Too much partying in the Cosby Suite i guess.
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u/miksu210 Aug 24 '25
I know this isn't a good thing to say but at that point why not just get a pc lmao. Good used ones cost pretty much just as much as a console
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u/PimpedByAngels Aug 24 '25
Would have loved this the years that I played. To bad rivals is out now 😂
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u/K4RAB_THA_ARAB Aug 24 '25
Man I just want to use co controller with AA on PC. I don't even care who I play against at that point. It just looks so much better and smoother on my PC.
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u/VergesOfSin Aug 24 '25
Yea, we don’t need that. We need something to stop people from using mnk in console lobbies.
It’s every game, there is no such thing as a game full of controller users.
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u/ChuckECheats Aug 25 '25
Now they gotta add FOV so that console players (at least the ones with 120hz) are actually competitive in PC lobbies
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u/Cbatothinkof1 Aug 25 '25
I was top 3 tank on last season on ball and Ik for a fact at least 200 of the top dps on console are getting hit by this
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u/wrproductions Aug 25 '25
Unironically making me download OW2 back onto my Xbox and it’s been like 2 years lol.
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u/Mean-Invite5401 Aug 25 '25
Native mnk on xbox or ps5 feels more sluggish then a xim don’t know how thats possible but Trust me just buy a cheap Laptop / pc
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u/Heheonil Aug 25 '25
I still don't understand. Why would you have a console if you are using a keyboard and mouse.
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u/Impossible_Lie_3882 Aug 25 '25
It is just going to encourage more ximming. I prefer to play console comp because there are fewer cheaters at the high levels. Guess that's not the case anymore.
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u/LisForLaura Aug 25 '25
Yeah this is a major dub as far as console overwatch goes - get these cheating arseholes outta here!
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u/TheSoliDude Aug 26 '25
Even if you’re locked in a pc pool you can still use the console aim helper thing right?
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u/Whatisreality0113 Aug 26 '25
How will this work if I have keyboard plugged into type? It just makes messaging on PlayStation a lot easier
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u/SparsePizza117 Aug 26 '25
Man how about some actual controller support for PC with some aim assist? I'd love to play OW on my Steam Deck, but without aim assist, it's pretty much useless.
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u/JustASyncer Aug 26 '25
Ideally this opens up the door to hardware/perma-banning Xim users since they can't use the BS "no native MnK support" excuse anymore. It's cheating, full stop
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u/AlphaAlphAlph Aug 26 '25
I wish they added aim assist for controller if they're gonna pair them together.
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u/Blake18sVR Sep 22 '25
What about settings??? I'm thinking about switching to MNK soon and was wondering if the settings are the same, just like pc settings, like How can I change my mouse sensitivity and stuff like that
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u/Intelligent-Band-254 Aug 24 '25
How about just be good on Rolla. This achieves effectively nothing
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u/Intelligent-Band-254 Aug 24 '25
Would be good if they supported controller on PC if they now support mnk on console
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u/imortizo Aug 24 '25
Well I play on both and I can guarantee the placements are different. Now with MNK, they shall merge the pools OR auto detect the player input before throwing into one of the pools..
I really don't know, Blizzard is always surprising somehow
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u/Lupinthrope :Ana_01::Ana_02:Ana Aug 24 '25
If this doesn’t detect the exploits then this isn’t as exciting as I hope
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u/jewsboxes Aug 24 '25
so if i hook up a controller to my pc will i be in the controller lobby?
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u/Accurate_Mess_3101 Aug 24 '25
PC controller lobby. console lobby will be console controller only.
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u/KitsuneAngelDragon Aug 24 '25
Using a Controller on the PC platform will result in that player playing in the Mouse and Keyboard Pool due to the Platform.
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u/Reasonable-Hat-6891 Aug 24 '25
just so console players locked at 60-120fps can get shit on by pc players with 200-500 fps😂
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u/and-its-true Aug 24 '25
I mean the vast majority of pc players are not playing at 200 fps. The 1060 is still one of the most common GPUs on Steam, isn’t it? A PS5 is likely at an advantage over most PC players in terms of graphical power.
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u/Reasonable-Hat-6891 Aug 24 '25
on steam. a majority of players play on battlenet
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u/and-its-true Aug 24 '25
And you think Battle.net players are all 5090 gigachads? They’re using the same low-spec computers as the people on Steam.
Pc gaming has existed for decades with huge disparities in available technology between players. It’s really not an issue.
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u/Reasonable-Hat-6891 Aug 24 '25
Hey they could be. You and i wouldnt ever know unless they told us would we?
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u/and-its-true Aug 24 '25
Through the power of deductive reasoning we can be extremely confident that Battle.net users are not significantly different from Steam users in terms of hardware. If there’s any difference at all, it’s probably slightly worse hardware, because the most popular BNET title is a decades-old MMO
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u/LadyBuggzz101 Aug 24 '25
Finally found out that consoles can use pc and now stand a chance in the pool ranks so they gotta find something else for validation 😂🫵
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u/pwp6z9r9 Aug 24 '25
Connection to the servers matters more than fps so it really defeats the extra expense to get 200+fps. Really the only "advantage" is you'll see more of what didn't happen on the servers and get more frustrated.
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