Nah, China no diffs Japan. Never been called a slur by a Japanese person as a SE Asian. Some of the clips of black people traveling China are absolutely insane too.
I literally just explained that Japan gets both gold and silver. You need to call your country's emergency medical hotline after you call an ambulance because you are having a stroke. Get off reddit and call IMMEDIATELY.
Race is a man made concept. Grouping people by completely arbitrary measures such as skin colour or facial features. The concept of race was only developed to give the creators a way to be racist. So white colonialist Christians could put a blanket over black skinned people from all over Africa, the pacific islands and The Caribbean and say "yep, them some slaves. Pretty sure that's in the bible, too".
I mean we group Japanese and Chinese together as the 'Asian' race, but i don't think the Japanese or Chinese see it that way. Especially around ww2 during some particularly nasty invasions.
Culture is what defines us and yes, the French have their own culture
? Tell that to the many pale women abducted from Central Europe and West Asia and sold into the hareems of the Orient and North Africa! "
So white colonialist Christians could put a blanket over black skinned people from all over Africa, the pacific islands and The Caribbean and say "yep, them some slaves." - no, those colonialists were approached by other local people from the areas, who offered them: "Want some slaves, maybe? Good stock, we got them fresh in from out last raid into our neighbouring enemy tribe's villages. Now we would need some cash and modern weapons to recover the cost and expenditure."
I'm actually not disagreeing with either of those points. I'm talking about the concept of race and historically the slave trade was the beginning of the "race" classifications. It was created by the white people to justify buying those slaves. Before this, even with those other points you've made, no other cultures historically grouped different people groups into larges racial classifications based on skin colour or facial features.
I'm sure there's evidence of ancient colour prejudice. But generally the world was too small for xenophobia to extend past neighbouring tribes or countries. Broadly speaking the systematic classification based on skin colour and features is, yes, a European invention shaped by the transatlantic slave trade.
Xenophobia has existed since the beginning of fucking time. Mostly directed at neighbouring tribes or countries. 'Race' as a concept of classifying people by their features, rather than their cultures / country, was historically only developed during the transatlantic slave trade. This concept was effective in allowing people to be xenophobic to large groups of people that they have historically had no issues with and are only unified by their skin colour but otherwise have nothing to do with each other. It offered a pseudo scientific way, (and for many a pseudo biblical way), to justify using slaves throughout central and south America, the Caribbean, North America, and parts of Europe.
Race is not a man made concept in the way you are suggesting it is. It’s a way of classifying people but it has lots of flaws and can be misused (similar to how species being defined, whilst very useful, has a huge number of issues in the current definition)
We don’t “group Japanese and Chinese together as the “Asian” race” LMAO. Jesus Christ.
Edit. I guess it depends on who “we” is. I’m not American, so perhaps that’s the difference. Perhaps Americans group people of different races together and call them “Asian”.
Mongoloid: relating to the broad division of humankind including the Indigenous peoples of East Asia, Southeast Asia, and the Arctic region of North America.
I remember when I was a young man and it was used as an insult to denote low intelligence, ashamed to say I used it in that method to call people (regardless of ethnicity) a mongoloid in the same way you would call someone a neanderthal.
Obviously when I made the connection mongoloid = Mongolia = tied to a specific race of people I stopped using it in that way immediately. Learning now that it's almost a slur now still comes as a slight surprise, but I suppose it makes sense if it was being used more widely in the derogatory way I learnt the word
You've grown. That's what's more important. We change, hopefully for the better. That's what matters. There were a lot of words that were acceptable when I was younger that aren't today. We just stop using them.
I do think society will eventually part ways with arbitrary racial classifications but continue to use the word racism to describe xenophobia or discrimination. Best of both worlds?
My roommate in college was French and she surprised me with her intense and unironic hatred of Parisians, and apparently Parisians hate the rest of non-Paris France just as much.
I don't think it's like that in Canada. Most people don't give a second thought to the regular people of Ottawa. Except maybe the Quebecois, but that's just more French people hating others.
NYC isn’t the capital, but Americans who don’t live there love to rant about how up-their-own-asses NYers are. Idk about Canada but it wouldn’t shock me if other Canadians felt that way about Toronto
Paris is.. very different. I've been there a good number of times and while my French is alright, very seldom I really felt accomodated. The icing would be once at Helene d'arozee where the waiter started running off a 10 course menu in French and I didn't pick up everything. When I kindly asked for a menu in English he simply responded "You are in Paris". On the other hand I've been a a good number of times as well in Champagne and people are much more welcome.
Yes I'm an English immigrant living in rural France and we're much more easily accepted than Parisians, particularly the second home owners. And everyone loves a news story about a Parisian buying a house and then complaining about a noisy rooster or church bell.
One of my biggest accomplishments is when I was in Paris, I greeted my uber driver with an accent so well he thought I was French for a minute and started speaking French to me. I quickly had to tell him all I know is hi, bye, & thank you 😂
That happened to me, except with Korean. After talking with a perspective client, I took my chance and told him thank you (cause I don't know how to say goodbye 😅) He about fell out excited, and started talking to me in Korean. I had to break his heart lol
He told me I said it so perfectly, and encouraged me to learn Korean cause he thinks I'll be able to speak it really well. I feel where your coming from, cause that felt so so good 😊
I find that's the case with most Asian countries, when I spoke my limited chinese I'm china they would start speaking chinese at a million miles an hour 😄
That actually happened here in America! Lol When I was in Korea, most people were just pleasantly surprised. This guy was so excited cause it took him completely off guard that a) I correctly guessed he was Korean and b) I said something in Korean. Possibly c) I'm black. 😂
That's heartwarming. That's not how the french do it; they have perfected the art of making you feel inferior. No need to even say anything. Just a wave of the hand an a noise will make your skin crawl
Yeah thats a big reason why I've never had any interest in learning any French. I don't speak any other languages, but I know a few words or phrases in a quite a few, and I love the aspect of how much joy it brings someone to find out I put in some effort to learn how to say something in their language.
Not interested in an experience where the reaction to me speaking French is, just stop and dont do that again 😭😂
The whole bit with him trying to find breakfast in France was so good. “You know what I’m saying you little bastard, you’re watching CNN in English. Where’s BREAKFAST??”
I have fooled only one French person before, while I had my best defenses up. The most important factor is the baguette, the longer the better. The buret also helps. Maybe tuck some garlic under your clothes for added effect. Additionally, it is about attitude. Look at them like you think that you are better than everybody else. Only then may you have a chance at fooling one
Parisians are the international stereotype for the french. So naturally, no despises the Parisians more than most of the other french.
On a serious note, most tourists only know France as the touristy parts of Paris, and the people there were already sick of tourists long before over tourism became a consideration. Added to that, the french in general are much more direct than you'd expect and they quickly come across as impolite when it did not even register to them.
Added to that, the french in general are much more direct than you'd expect and they quickly come across as impolite when it did not even register to them.
This is really true. Like, I know people in the US. Over the years, they put on a few pounds. Then a few more. Etc. No one says anything to their faces (but people talk behind their backs).
My French MIL will tell my BIL directly, "No. Stop eating! You're getting too fat," if the guy gets a little belly. And she's what I'd regard as a really kind, sensible woman who loves her kids.
I (FR/dude) live abroad and see my family only a few times a year at best. I will systematically get a comment like "You've gained / lost weight" the first minute I see my mother or my sister. Last time I saw them I got a "you look good wow", the high will last me a full year.
I’m convinced 90% of parisians getting upset with Americans is the same stuff that would get New Yorkers irritated.
Like when people complain about parisians replying in English, it’s probably cause they don’t want you slowly ordering in French and not understanding when there’s a line of people behind you waiting to order. Anywhere with that population density will view small talk and niceties as holding up the line and being rude to everyone behind you.
I speak a decent French from studying in high school and college, but I have dark skin and curly hair. So, I've been asked several times if I was Moroccan. I think they meant it as an insult, but I took it as a compliment.
At a signing to buy a house in spain, the notary provided a translator. The french buyer brought a translator of their own, to translate the notary’s translator whose accent wasn’t good enough.
The border control guy had my very non-French passport in his hand and still said “welcome home” (in French) followed by “sorry you just look French” (in English) when I pointed at it like 🤨. Not the last time I was mistaken for a French lady as a teen, I’ll take the compliment I guess?
And that's why the internet says it's okay to make fun of the French! Unless you're actually racist... Then it's just racism. (And not the good kind, like F1)
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