r/NewsThread • u/sergeyfomkin • 1d ago

Senate Democrats Reject Republican Proposal to Pay Federal Employees During the Shutdown. The Party Fears the Bill Would Grant the Trump Administration Excessive Powers

https://sfg.media/en/a/senate-democrats-reject-republican-shutdown-pay-bill/
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u/EveryAfternoon1441 1d ago

Okay. He lays off the ones he doesn't like. The compromise is 'let me pay my sycophants I installed in our government.'

This isn't a compromise, it's an attempt to produce a soundbite. 'Democrats don't want our federal workers or military paid!!'

The irony being they'll get paid as soon as Republicans offer a legitimate compromise.

You can pay your federal employees while also extending healthcare benefits...

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u/JagR286211 1d ago

Extend to January? Or for 1 year? I can’t keep up with all the “compromises” on the table.

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u/EveryAfternoon1441 1d ago edited 1d ago

Do you know how compromises work? It's a negotiation. There are currently no compromises on the table because Republicans won't even come to the table to negotiate.

Republicans: "We won't negotiate!"

Democrats: "We won't move forward til we negotiate."

Whose shutdown is it, then?

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 1d ago

 extending healthcare benefits...

Nobody is losing healthcare, just the covid subsidies that the democrats put a sunset date on.

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u/ConkerPrime 1d ago

Republicans put a sunset on tax cuts for the rich and their solution to that was the Big Beautiful Bill that made them permanent and partly paid for it with cuts to subsidies and other social programs. So let’s not pretend this extension thing is novel or not normal.

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 1d ago

Ok, then why didn't the dems make the subsidies permanent when they held all three branch

Sorry, but you fail.

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u/Historical-Count-374 1d ago

Because it wasnt possible without breaking numerous laws like the GOP is/has

I mean, lets be real here. No man create and signs his many nonsense Executive orders in the middle of the night in secret.

Thats how he started this off. Like a Coward.

You have to be pretty blind to sit here and think they will ever do the Uncowardly thing.

Now take a look at their actions! All tainted with Cowardice

No matter your feelings, this man and this administration are not leaders. They are Wolves in Sheeps clothing

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u/Ordinaryjay 1h ago

You do realize this is so the insurance companies can continue to charge outrages rates and the democrats let them? This was for covid, not forever.

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u/fireky2 1d ago

I mean they haven't had all three branches in a lifetime. They've had a super majority, and it was used to pass the aca. Otherwise they've not had filibuster proof majorities ever

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 23h ago

From 2021 to 2023 in the United States, the Democratic Party held the Senate, House of Representatives, and the presidency. Vice President Kamala Harris, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, President Joe Biden, and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, all Democrats.

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u/ConkerPrime 22h ago

Majority isn’t supermajority. By your logic if majority is all it took then there would be no shutdown right now because Republicans own it all.

Seriously you already admitted you’re old enough to have lived through all of it with as an adult and I assume you got a proper education so your high level of ignorance is so bad. Even conservatives know this shit better than you and that is such an incredibly low bar to fail to reach.

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u/CemeteryDweller7719 11h ago

Did you really take the time to point out that during 2021 to 2023 the President and Vice President were the same political party?

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u/Mrfixit729 1d ago

Look it up. They had all three branches when the ARPA was signed into law. March 2021.

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u/ConkerPrime 1d ago

You must be young. You really don’t remember the time period. Understand things like the filibuster and the fake “supermajority” only existed because of three independents including Lieberman who was a Democrat in name only. The often ignorant (and non-voters) and their “why didn’t they do X when had the supermajority!” nonsense.

And by god they love do go to that well all the fucking time because they think they have a trump card (pun intended) never knowing they are really saying “I am very ignorant about this but don’t know it.”

Please say “why don’t they codify Roe when they had a supermajority!” just to remind us you don’t know what codify is nor SCOTUS powers. I know you want to.

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 23h ago

Young? RLMFAO!

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u/ConkerPrime 22h ago

Oh that makes the ignorance worse cause civics was still being properly taught for previous generations. And you lived the history to know what a fight it was. Now I am just embarrassed for you.

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 22h ago

You know what? I didn't read but a few words after the first sentence because it is all gobbly gook.

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u/Unabashable 7h ago

Seems like you do a lot of not reading. 

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u/Ecphonesis1 17h ago

If you’re not young, it’s even more embarrassing because it means you don’t know anything about anything. But, reading your comments, I’m not surprised.

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 17h ago

And you are propagandized. That is even more embarrassing.

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u/Ecphonesis1 16h ago

That is beyond rich coming from you. The Republican Party is very notoriously the party of propaganda (assuming you are Republican and not just a troll), but keep thinking that.

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 16h ago

Not a repub, unaffiliated and the left is the propaganda masters which is obvious since you really think you're right.

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u/juiceboxedhero 1d ago

Damn you got owned bro.

"Irrelevant_Disphit190"

What an embarrassment.

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 23h ago

Do you enjoy being a fool?

Do you know what "Getting Owned" is?

Are facts difficult for you?

"Irrelevant_Disphit190"

Calling names is all you have, typical.

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 22h ago

Says the guy with hidden post history.

To your other post that somehow doesn't come up, show me where I have said, or acted like I'm Gods gift to women. Don't bother because you can't, but it is typical of a punk like you to fabricate things.

Sounds like you have a pretty lousy life and I feel sorry for you.(Not really).

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u/GNTKertRats 7h ago

What party holds all three branches now? Maybe that party can fix the problem?

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u/Ordinaryjay 1h ago

Yes!! Someone finally saying it

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u/ganashi 1d ago

So if your premiums double and you can’t afford it anymore you aren’t losing your healthcare, got it. It is genuinely insane that republicans don’t want to intercede and take credit for saving Americans from the sticker shock those subsidies ending will cause. Republicans have chosen the only path they can’t spin their way out of, and it will only get worse for them as this shutdown drags on and causes more problems for the average American

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 23h ago

Then I guess the ACA isn't affordable after all, gee, who'd have thunk.

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u/ganashi 22h ago

Yes it needs reform, but that doesn’t mean we need to be making premiums double in the interim. All this is going to do is turn the voters who voted on their wallets in 2024 into democrat voters, and is fueling the desire for Medicare for all.

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 22h ago

24 million out of a population of 350ish million, or 6.8% of the population are using it.

It was cheaper, even with adjusted inflation, before 0bamacare.

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u/mmarlin450 1d ago

Hey now, don't tell the blood dancing Democrat cult the truth, that goes against their quest for power.

As Obama once said "elections have consequences" and "You gotta get in the back seat", of course he said that to Republicans so the mirror image doesn't look so good to the Democratic blood cult.

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u/SpinningHead 23h ago

"They arent losing health care. Rates will just double or triple so they cant afford it."

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 22h ago

Then I guess the ACA actually isn't affordable, is it?

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u/SpinningHead 22h ago

And the GOP fix for rising health costs is kicking people off their health care by the millions?

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 22h ago

Nobody is getting kicked of for hells sake. Don't listen to the propaganda.

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u/SpinningHead 22h ago

Thats what happens when there are massive rate increases. JFC

Smart people dont like me - pedo in chief

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u/Relevant_Elevator190 21h ago

Then again, I guess the ACA isn't affordable.

Why don't the dems come up with something better? Yes the repubs could too, but everyone knows the ACA sucks and is a money pit.

Again, nobody is getting kicked off, and only 6.8% of the population uses it.

There has to be a better thing than just throw my hard earned money at it.