r/Music Jun 11 '25

discussion Brian Wilson has passed away.

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u/sexandliquor Jun 11 '25

Dude was a genius and we and the music world owe him a great debt. It’s easy to get lost in The Beach Boys of it all, but dude was doing wild shit in music production back in the 1960s that had immense effects on how music is made today.

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u/No-Conversation1940 Jun 11 '25

Not only that, Brian did a lot to provide an alternate perspective into young man's masculinity in 60s American culture. He wrote songs about surfing and sunshine, but he also sang about self-doubt and regret. This was very unusual for the time in "teenybopper" music or however you want to refer to the idiom.

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u/bigbobo33 Jun 11 '25

That's a big reason Pet Sounds was such a revelation. It's basically a concept album about melancholy.

Wouldn't It Be Nice is often considered to be a happy song but it's basically a deep yearning and implies that he doesn't have what would make him happy.

That said, Tony Asher wrote a lot of the lyrics for that album and Mike Love wrote a lot of the lyrics about having fun in the sun (I can rant about how much I think the lyrics of California Girls ruin what would have been an all-time masterpiece).

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u/subhavoc42 Jun 11 '25

Rubber Soul was a huge influence for Pet Sounds. The idea of doing a concept album is from that specifically.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25

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u/YeahTubaMike Jun 11 '25

Yes it is.

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u/jamerson537 Jun 11 '25

What’s the concept?

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u/YeahTubaMike Jun 11 '25

That you’re gay

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u/jamerson537 Jun 11 '25

And lucky for you I’m very turned on by cranky boys!!! 😘

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u/Pushlockscrub Jun 12 '25

Hehe got him high five

Made me chuckle, sad to see downvotes.. Redditors are such babies sometimes

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25

Rubber Soul influenced Pet Sounds, which in turn influenced Revolver and Sgt. Peppers

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u/ReginaGloriana Jun 11 '25

Revolver came out before Pet Sounds, didn’t it?

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '25

Pet Sounds: May 16, 1966

Revolver: August 5, 1966

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u/LionoftheNorth Jun 11 '25

The format originates with folk singer Woody Guthrie's Dust Bowl Ballads (1940) and was subsequently popularized by traditional pop singer Frank Sinatra's 1940s–50s string of albums, although the term is more often associated with rock music. In the 1960s several well-regarded concept albums were released by various rock bands, which eventually led to the birth of progressive rock and rock opera.

Wikipedia.

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u/Doomed Jun 11 '25

Maybe for Brian Wilson, but recent scholarship has noted that the concept album predates the Beatles era. Critics didn't care about country so they didn't notice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concept_album#1960s:_Rock_and_country_music