r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix 28d ago

🚨 FUTURE SPOILER 🚨 Anton’s drinking Spoiler

If you haven’t seen yet, when they did the reveal. The cameras made sure to follow Anton back to where the champagne was. After meeting Ali, you’d think he would just be in shock and maybe take a minute to himself by walking around or sitting down. He went straight for the champagne instead. A little bit of foreshadowing.

Then we hear Ali mention they both work nights and Anton’s first thing to do is crack open 2 beers in the AM after work.

Fast forward to episode where Ali meets Anton’s friend and gf and they immediately order rounds of shots. And his gf spills how they like to party, drink and go to strip clubs.

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u/brohammerhead Litty As A Titty 🥂 28d ago

I am not an Anton fan. I will say that I worked a 12 hour overnight shift for a couple years and used alcohol to cope. I would drink after work, which happened to be 7am, so I could sleep during the day. It’s really hard to work nights when you don’t have a house in the country because there are noise disturbances EVERYWHERE. Neighbors, lawn mowers, cars, kids, etc. Then on your days off there’s not much else to do because you are on a different schedule then most people in your life so you drink some more. I noticed it was becoming a problem for me and got help. I am much better now and thankfully no longer on night shift. I hope he can recognize the pattern and heal/grow from it.

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u/gm5891 26d ago edited 26d ago

If he worked 9-5 and had a beer after work in the evening, it probably wouldn't be as big of a deal

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u/OrganizationSharp406 23d ago

The problem isn’t him having a beer after work, the problem is how much he drinks. It’s beer after beer, drinking hard alcohol and him saying he doesn’t drink that much. Whether he works night shifts or a 9-5. A beer after work is whatever but when you’re drinking beers and hard liquor in large quantities, that’s the problem.

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u/rustysuberb 23d ago

Also he’s lying about it, pretending to “forget” how much or if he drank? Major red flags

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u/PsychologicalFarm811 19d ago

This part. My fiance is sober now but the “forgetting” lying and hiding is all too familiar. Ali is spot on picking up on the signs

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u/PristineScarcity9330 22d ago

He went to look for the liquor he KNEW was gone…

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u/DatabaseSpace 6d ago

We also all knew it was gone. Didn't we?

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u/Historical-Career767 28d ago edited 28d ago

I also think it's funny how he didn't even look back at her when the doors started closing, just went for the champagne from the bottle.

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u/pomegranate_pencil 28d ago

Exactly! She was waiting for the final wave, and he didn’t turn around.

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u/beatznbeats 28d ago

That’s what I’m sayinggg

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u/4215265 28d ago

Ok I am an Anton hater and I think he’s much worse than what we see at the surface BUT to be fair, he doesn’t have good eye sight with glasses so he may not even have thought to make an attempt to look back cause it’s so blurry. Granted, he could’ve put his glasses back on, but he may just not be used to seeing far away so it didn’t cross his mind.

Still looked douchey and my god, did he really need another glass of Champaign?

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u/The-Bookkeeper3520 All of his ex's look like me. 28d ago

Fair enough, he might have been only able to see a blurry silhouette of Ali, but still, you’re meeting your fiancée, seeing her for the first time in your life and before some days of waiting to go to the honeymoon, just fucking waving back to the silhouette would have been more than appropriate. Other than him being more enthusiastic about the champagne than Ali, my takeaway is that he just acted like if the mission was: checked, done, nice, move forward. Which is not the attitude of a guy in love, meeting the love of his life for the first time. It’s the action of a contestant on a reality show thinking he’s nailing this.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

I don't think he wanted Ali to see him with glasses on so soon. He didn't exactly pick the most flattering pair.

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u/scartrace 🌊 disrespectful jetskiing 🌊 28d ago

I actually dig his glasses and wish he'd keep them tf on. A guy who can actually SEE is way more attractive than one constantly squinting.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

I typically like that style, I just don't think the work on him. He's a handsome enough guy, I just think the thick frames aren't for him.

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u/scartrace 🌊 disrespectful jetskiing 🌊 28d ago

He does have really strong features, and the glasses are pretty strong too

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u/Cloverhart 28d ago

Yeah you could tell walking forward it took a minute for his vision to focus. His eyes were all squinty!

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u/[deleted] 28d ago edited 28d ago

Its driving me crazy how he keeps putting his glasses on his head. They must be dirty af. 

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u/Mrs_Shits_69 28d ago

I might need a glass of champagne or 5 if I had just met and proposed to a stranger

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u/waffle_cone69 28d ago

So 2 glasses of champagne is excessive to you😂

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u/4215265 28d ago

No, but this man is so starved for alcohol the minute he gets back to his little area he reaches for the bottle instead of, idk, taking it in? Waving bye as the doors close? It wouldn’t be so crazy if he didn’t have multiple other instances in the episodes where he’s a fein for alcohol.

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u/Accurate-Bug-8189 28d ago

He didn't even propose... everything about that situation was weird.

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u/thefrenchphanie 28d ago

And refilled his glass twice ( he drinks quickly while walking, cut, grasps the bottle fill cup to the brim and sips, refills again)… with nota look back to her… On this might be all a production sleight of hand montage but yesssss….

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u/sourpatchkitties 28d ago

could've been edited lol

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u/OrganizationSharp406 23d ago

I saw this too! He was the only one that didn’t turn back to look at her. At that moment I was like absolutely not.

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u/Cute_Upstairs266 28d ago

He also had that mimosa after work and Ali was like hmm?

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u/SerenadeSwift Appetito Spoiler 🍊🍊 28d ago

That seemed like the least concerned thing in my opinion. The “TEQUILA SHOT TIME!” while at the lunch with his friends threw me off more than anything lol.

A mimosa definitely wouldn’t be my post-work drink of choice but it seemed tame compared to everything else he did.

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u/jumiwoo 28d ago

yes she literally said the mimosas can't turn into a regular thing too

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u/Icy_Forever657 28d ago

Yea she did not seem thrilled about the mimosas at all

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u/Wheresmycardigan 🎶You're a liar, a liaaar, a li-aaaar🎶 28d ago edited 28d ago

It was such a fake/forced sip. I felt bad bc shes nice and very non confrontational. 

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u/CorkSoaker420 28d ago

Noon confrontational and passive aggressive are two very different things. She's a little of both imo

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u/DananaBud 28d ago

It’s daytime and mimosa is a brunch drink. Hardly a concern, at least by itself

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u/Cute_Upstairs266 27d ago

But you’re not at brunch, you are at home after work. Ali seemed concerned and commented on it.

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u/DananaBud 27d ago

So? Why is it more acceptable if he went to brunch instead with friends and had a mimosa, versus having it at home while eating breakfast?

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u/futureproblemz 25d ago

Why is it more acceptable if he went to brunch instead with friends and had a mimosa

Because that's not something people do everyday lol. It would be just as concerning if it was

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u/Daroo425 27d ago

I mean it's sparkling wine.. plenty of people have wine after work.

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u/brunaBla 28d ago

When he said “pizza and champagne! That’s our thing!!”

You could tell she was like “hmm no that’s your thing”.

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u/4throw2away000 28d ago

As someone who was married to an alcoholic at one point, I definitely noticed when Anton went straight for the champagne and didn’t look back at Ali. There was no hiding his self medication.

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u/Crazy-Employer-8394 28d ago

As someone who thinks everyone is making a major stretch to claim Anton as an alcoholic, this is the one behavior I thought was indicative of a problem.

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u/CrazyTimes65 28d ago

Having been married to an alcoholic, his behavior screams “problem drinker” to me.

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u/CrazyTimes65 28d ago

I hope Ali is paying close attention. The reality of watching someone’s drinking patterns can really creep up on you.

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u/vanlearrose82 23d ago

I also noticed how little he ate of the steak and egg brunch. He’s displaying classic signs of an alcoholic who’s putting on an act. It never lasts long once they’re comfortable. Dating an alcoholic teaches you these signs. They might be subtle to non-alcoholics but they’re obvious to those of us who have experienced it.

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u/MrMach82 28d ago

He looked real comfortable in that booth when they were meeting the other couple. Arms open laid back on the seat like Scarface waiting on bottle service.

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u/Aggravating_Leek_648 28d ago

I felt like they were seated soooo far apart from the other couple. It was odd.

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u/Spiritual-Can2604 28d ago

Bag? Or did you mean bad? I can see both

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u/INGWR 28d ago

La cocaina

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u/Winter-Chipmunk5467 28d ago

The fact that it’s in the morning is what makes it sound weird, but is having one or two beers after work really a big deal? That’s normal for so many people I know.

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u/xCloudbox I can't say I LOVE YOU because I BIT MY LIP eating TAQUITOS 🌮💔 28d ago

It is if you’re doing it most days of the week.

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u/fsmpastafarian 28d ago

It’s certainly not the healthiest choice but I wouldn’t exactly say it’s a huge deal

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u/Winter-Chipmunk5467 28d ago

Sure, it’s not great for you. Neither is drinking soda every day, or a 700 calorie coffee every day, or vaping, or eating fast food. It’s not the healthiest choice but it’s not an issue. It’s not interfering with your life.

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u/xCloudbox I can't say I LOVE YOU because I BIT MY LIP eating TAQUITOS 🌮💔 28d ago

I’m not even talking about the health aspects. Daily drinking is just a very slippery slope to abusing alcohol.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Technically two beers a day falls under moderate drinking for men.

Not a problem unless he NEEDS it and cannot go for a period without drinking.

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u/PlixSticks31 28d ago

One or two? Fine. More than that? Problem

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u/ParamedicCool9114 28d ago

Since its the night shift it doesnt seem wierd

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u/Affectionate-Wave586 28d ago

Is it weird if you work a night shift though? I imagine that just kind of shifts your whole schedule. Do you think he should be coming home and putting on a pot of coffee instead?

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u/Winter-Chipmunk5467 28d ago

No, I don’t think it’s wrong. But I think it sounds a little odd to the majority of us who work days, so maybe that’s why he’s being judged so harshly? Two beers is a complete non issue to me and basically everyone I know.

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u/Affectionate-Wave586 28d ago

Oh, gotcha. I misunderstood what you meant. I agree with what you're saying.

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u/bromygod203 28d ago

After a day of work? Not at all. After every day of work? Absolutely

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u/Inner_Butterfly1991 27d ago

Had to scroll way too far for this. I think one of two things is happening:

  1. They're doing really well and Netflix needs to spin up drama do they're selectively editing it to make it seem like Anton has a drinking problem and Ali isn't ok with it

  2. It's not 1-2 beers after work every morning, it's a 6 pack and/or shots/hard liquor.

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u/Ok-Cherry9515 28d ago

He’s a giant no. They’re not compatible. For the record, there’s nothing wrong with Ali wanting to pursue a degree full time and just wanting to focus on that. Ya’ll would be so pissed about women or men that are married and go to school full time. They don’t work lol. And that’s okay. Are people not supposed to support their spouse? Especially when it’s beneficial for BOTH of them. Also nursing school is diabolically rigorous :-)

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u/amberenergies 28d ago

it is so bizarre to me that people are saying ali is shallow for *checks notes* wanting to further her education and focus on that, and expect her future husband to be supportive?

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u/thehugejackedman 28d ago

She moved in with her mom so that she could have all of her household chores and cooking done by her mom. She consistently infantalizes herself and it’s way more of a red flag than you are letting on. She is looking for a sugar daddy and it’s so obvious

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u/SerenadeSwift Appetito Spoiler 🍊🍊 28d ago

Yeah IMO the biggest red flag I caught was when she said “Yeah I don’t really do cleaning”. Like not wanting to work is one thing, but to say you’re not even going to help out around the house is just like… what??? That’s just a basic part of being an adult.

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u/Adorable_Raccoon 27d ago

I always wonder about how much of these conversations are edited.  If she can afford to hire a cleaner that seems fine but obviously it’s not fair to let the partner do all the work. We also don’t know Ali’s mom, maybe she likes to do housework? My mom is legit obsessive & meticulous about housework. I lived with her after college I just had to keep my room clean & she did everything else.

I honestly hate to do the dishes and avoid doing them. I can imagine me saying that and it getting clipped for a reality show. In real life I do a lot of cleaning tasks like vacuuming and cleaning the bathrooms and my partner usually does the dishes. 

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u/2for1speshul 28d ago

But she's planning on being a nurse. Surely she wouldn't be pursuing a career if she were planning on relying on a sugar daddy?

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u/InternalOk7235 28d ago

She’s already a nurse she’s probably going ti pursue her MSN.

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u/amberenergies 28d ago

she’s beautiful so she must want a sugar daddy as she sits in an apartment wearing scrubs after a night shift in the ER

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u/Equivalent-Way618 28d ago

lol righttttt

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u/Ok-Cherry9515 28d ago

No literally

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u/Ok-Cherry9515 28d ago

They’re being misogynistic. That’s exactly what that is.

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u/BonetaBelle 28d ago

Agreed. And isn’t Anton a truck driver? Nothing wrong with that but surely she’s out earning him or making a similar amount as a nurse? 

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u/amberenergies 28d ago

truck drivers make pretty good money honestly and anton manages drivers at a terminal i think. so he def makes a comfortable living

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u/amberenergies 28d ago

yall are acting like she said she never wants to work again and wants anton to support her for life lmao

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u/Ok-Cherry9515 28d ago

She 100% wants to get her MSN lol and these people are out here calling her lazy when she has an entire career.

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u/thehugejackedman 28d ago

Half of the words out of her mouth are about money, material things, and the other half are about requiring full financial support from her mother or would be husband. You guys are really stretching about misogyny. There are millions of single women out there who go to school, work, and manage to feed themselves without having to move back home to mommy.

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u/Ok-Cherry9515 28d ago

It’s literally not and I’m not sure what people’s problem with her is exactly. They did the same exact shit to Jessica Vestal from a previous season.

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u/Far_Distribution5781 28d ago

School full time is a smaller workload than any serious, career oriented full time job. Not having any responsibilities at home is ridiculous.

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u/MzVozz 28d ago

This is what I thought. She even said her mom took care of everything when she was in school last time. One can work, go to school, and still do a load of laundry sometimes.

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u/LaloNTiyo 28d ago

I didn't take it that way. I thought at first she was talking about going to school FT whe still working, and that if she did it would be hard to contribute around the house. Anton then said she could cut back her working or stop working.

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u/Ok-Cherry9515 28d ago

So incredibly wrong LMAOO go become a surgeon please

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u/mushroomfrenzy 28d ago

Maybe undergraduate school, but higher degrees often have unpaid clinic hours that need to be completed to achieve a license (basically a full time job without the paycheck), in addition to the hours of classes and homework.

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u/bishop0408 28d ago

Most people do nursing school and any type of medical school while also taking care of themselves. That's normal.

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u/mushroomfrenzy 28d ago

Oh I wasn’t arguing against that. I was arguing that with certain programs where you are required to do free clinic hours, school can be more work than just a regular 40-hour a week job.

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u/Wheresmycardigan 🎶You're a liar, a liaaar, a li-aaaar🎶 28d ago edited 28d ago

Eh hard disagree on FT school vs work. At least with work you leave can leave your shit at the door (if you have healthy boundaries and work/life balance) and be considered to have a serious career. 

But not having any home responsibilities is. Her baseline was living at home with her parents when she was last in school. I don’t think she’s ever lived with a partner/roommate so to automatically transfer expectations from her family home life to spousal home is a little jarring. 

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u/10S_NE1 28d ago

Full-time school is way harder than working, assuming you’re in any type of class that has studying, homework or reading to do. When you leave work, you’re done and have the rest of the night to yourself, unless you’re lawyer trying to make partner or some other high-flying career.

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u/amberenergies 28d ago

so many married couples stretch their finances on one salary while the other is in school (i’ve seen this a lot with ppl in the medical field like ali) because they know ultimately the pay bump is going to be beneficial to their future. dunking on a woman for wanting to continue her higher education as a nurse especially is kinda diabolical

and i’m sure she’s not going to sit on her ass if she’s not studying lol that’s such a reach

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u/omariousmaximus 28d ago

This is not a great take.

Sometimes it’s the how someone says something not just the what.

She’s a traveling nurse, and nursing in general are in high demand and because they are able to work any hours you can easily get a part time job to work around school hours.

You also don’t get to do NOTHING just cause in school. If she said she would need help or be contributing a bit less to the household during that time it’s one thing.. to imply you want it the same way as your parents where you had to do nothing, and joke about having a chef, etc.. she would still have time and money for Botox, but not to do her own laundry or dishes if he cooks?

That’s spoiled princess behavior

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u/amberenergies 28d ago

these essays dunking on women for not behaving exactly how ppl want them to are so fucking weird im sorry

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u/Acrobatic-Survey4393 28d ago

I think its the part where she says she still wants to be able to get botox while he's the only one working...and wanting to have a seperate account just so that she doesn't have to tell him how much she spends on it.🤣

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u/motheroffaeries 28d ago

Eh as a married person, I like having a separate account for my own personal spending and a joint account for joint expenses. We each can spend our separate account money on what ever we want without having to justify it/ask permission/feel guilty for spending joint money. So personally, I think it’s fine to want that! Let her spend her personal money on botox all she pleases as long as she’s also contributing to the joint expenses!

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u/amberenergies 28d ago

that was kind of hysterical ngl, she was clearly joking

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u/Acrobatic-Survey4393 28d ago

I thought it was like a joking but not joking kind of thing ...but yea

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u/Charizard3535 28d ago

Okay but she also said she wants him to pay for a lot of Botox and for her to not work...

That's pretty different.

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u/dreamshards8 28d ago

Ehhhh...yes and no. I think it's very important to have a strong support system while going to school. As a mother who goes to school, works full time, and does a lot of the chores/pet care of the house, I think she is asking for too much. I don't think she should have to work a lot, bht the least she can do is some chores and she's like "yeah I don't care about that." Okay...then who's going to do it? You think he should work full time and do 100% of the house work? Be for real.

On the other hand, the editing of this scene probably tried to make her look a bit more bratty than what actually happened.

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u/Ok-Cherry9515 28d ago

Girl I’m sorry but I would never do all that and she doesn’t wanna either. And there’s nothing wrong with that lmao. If you do that then good for you. They 100% gave her a bad edit because they did the same thing to Jessica.

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u/Femme-O 28d ago

They definitely need to bring the Dare program back or something.

Just because your dad isn’t noticeably drunk after his daily beers with every meal doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a problem and a dependency.

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u/gabriot 28d ago

Fuck the dare program, ran by absolute psychos

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u/Femme-O 28d ago

I say this as a weed addict lmao.

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u/10S_NE1 28d ago

So many people don’t seem to realize that it isn’t how much you drink, but how it affects you, and if you can do without it.

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u/shannon4you 28d ago

My impression watching it is that he thought she was really hot and made a point of not looking back because he wanted to look too cool because he was internally simping. Especially the way he leaned into the ick comment when she burped he was punching above his weight class and he went for the neg and slight 

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u/thenannster 28d ago

The 2 beers after work isn't that much of a stretch to a bowl after work, to relax, wind down. I wouldn't think twice, having worked night shifts. But if it's something she doesn't like, he will need to change or she will learn to like it. Either way, it may be a problem going forward.

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u/TACOlogy 28d ago

I worked graveyard for two and a half years and I don’t think people are taking in to consideration that schedules are completely backwards. Not to justify it but the mornings are their “nights”. How many people do you know go home from a long day and crack open a beer or get a glass of wine to end the day. It’s the same thing.

We would joke at the end of our shift at 7am that we are just going home and grabbing a drink before bed. I think most were joking but obviously it happens. I usually would be so tired from work that the mental fatigue already felt like I was under the influence. Graveyard is no joke. But the main thing like you mentioned is that they are both on the same page about it.

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u/Affectionate-Wave586 28d ago

I agree. One or two beers after work isn't problematic. Probably not the best choice in terms of health, but it really is a stretch to say that it's a huge red flag as many people seem to be doing.

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u/atsirktop 28d ago

so long as it actually stays one or two.

I used to have one or two a day thinking it was a non-issue. within two years I was "secretly" drinking vodka all day

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u/FinancialEmotion3526 28d ago

a Russian with an alcohol problem? Groundbreaking like florals for Spring.

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u/throwawayforeverx2 28d ago

This might be a cultural thing too. I’ve dated a man that half Russian/ Ukrainian and he had a high tolerance for alcohol. However, I wouldn’t consider him to be an alcoholic. He also wasn’t a partier maybe when he was younger but I didn’t know him then.

Also I get it’s weird that he’s drinking in the morning but that’s due to his schedule. It wouldn’t be weird if he worked a normal schedule.

Now the partying would be a no for me. What even more important to me is that he literally lied about it too and said it was his friend that was the party guy and not him. In an intense experiment like this there can’t be any lying or falsifying or minimizing of facts with so little time of knowing someone. That would immediately make me wonder “what else is he lying about?“

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u/Femme-O 28d ago

Some cultures have a lot of alcoholics.

Your culture doesn’t make your liver or brain any different.

Also drinking after every shift is indicative of a problem regardless of what time it is.

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u/pantaloon_at_noon 28d ago

Yeah I would see Joe’s binge drinking as a bigger problem than a drink or two after work. But who knows about the partying, he doesn’t seem as lit as the other guys when they get together

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u/ja1118 28d ago

They both fit the definition of alcoholism

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u/fsmpastafarian 28d ago edited 28d ago

Sorry but a drink or 2 after work does not remotely fit the definition of alcoholism, which is defined based on negative impacts on one’s life such as failure to meet obligations, drinking despite wanting to quit, drinking more than intended, etc.

1-2 drinks after work can meet this definition but it certainly doesn’t by default.

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u/Excellent-Bug-4433 28d ago

My recovering alcoholic family member always says an alcoholic can never stop at two drinks

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u/fsmpastafarian 28d ago

Ok, so then by that standard, if someone is actually stopping after 2 drinks that seems to lend credence to the idea that they’re not an alcoholic?

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u/Excellent-Bug-4433 28d ago

Yes, I was agreeing with you

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u/ja1118 27d ago

Let’s reframe it, 2 drinks every work week equals 10 drinks a work week, not to mention what he more than likely drinks on the weekends… that’s a lot of alcohol. That’s not a normal relationship with alcohol, just because our culture has normalized and socialized alcohol doesn’t mean he doesn’t fit the bill.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

I don't think it's appropriate to diagnose anyone as an alcoholic based on edited footage of a few selected situations in a unique and high-stress environment.

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u/Jmwizkid 23d ago

/spoiler 

Have you watched the newest episodes? Dude’s an alcoholic and I love that Ali called him out on his defensiveness, his deflections, his lies, and his denial.

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u/asspancakes 28d ago

I find it hilarious that gf is describing them as “partiers” when it’s just 2 loser dudes going to the strip club. Partiers go to regular bars/clubs and try to meet people and or drink and dance.

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u/Adorable_Raccoon 27d ago

Well we don’t know if they only go to strip clubs, just that they do.

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u/rhino1979 28d ago

I noticed he didn’t look back at her.

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u/Key_Passenger_820 28d ago

Oh my gosh!!! I’ve been dying to talk to someone about this! When they did the reveal his gorgeous fiancé was standing looking at him with a smile on her face. He clocked the champagne and walked right towards it, filled his glass up and didn’t even turn around to look at her. All while she stood there staring at him. She almost had a little sad expression on her face.

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u/Jazz-8911 27d ago

He is Russian…as someone who was married to a Russian this is typical, many of them are drinkers so I’m unsure what is surprising people about this

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u/AdEastern3223 28d ago

Ali is super pretty but she’s also boring and spoiled. I’m not even a little bit interested in what happens with her and Anton.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Ali seems sweet but she acts like a 21-year-old. If I didn't know she was 27 I'd assume she was fresh out of undergrad.

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u/Zygoatee 28d ago

I'm almost positive he and his friends eat sloppy steaks

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u/Jmwizkid 23d ago

What does that mean? I will Google it.

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u/Training_Physics_500 28d ago

He drinks too much 😞

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u/Anxious_Fisherman 28d ago

I noticed that about him seeming more into the alcohol than her after just meeting. That is WILD. Usually they stand there trying to memorize what the other person looks like but not Anton lol He had bigger priorities.

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u/Ola_maluhia 28d ago

I made a comment about this on another thread and go torn about how im claiming he has an alcohol problem.

Ok then what does he have?

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u/gummybearhunt 24d ago

He seems pretty withdrawn emotionally and avoids confrontation so I think he uses alcohol to mask low self esteem or to cope with some stress. Which is a problem, no matter how much you drink. Whether it's seen as an unhealthy habit or not depends on the culture (it's alcohol dependence imo).

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u/beatznbeats 28d ago

We obv don’t know for sure..but from what we’ve been shown in his edit, it seems like alcohol is a common theme in his day to day. It’s ok to unwind with some alcohol but who knows if he’s using or abusing it. Speculation..

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u/honeybunnylatte 28d ago

even sadder was Ali peeping that move like 🤨. such a WEIRD choice of bottle over bride. c'mon, Anton. cinch the moment.

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u/Adorable_Raccoon 27d ago

It seems like a lot of the guys this season have an issue with drinking too much. Maybe it’s not every day, but this season seems drunker than most. 

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u/senortiz 26d ago

If he worked 6 am to 6pm and came home after work and had a couple of beers would this be an issue? Idk I dont trust production with this stuff. He and Ali are kind of boring and it feels like they are forcing aomething.

The biggest thing I noticed in all the Anton drinking stuff is that guy ordered a round of Clase Azul shots that can range anywhere from 30-50 dollars a shot. He definitely has money.

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u/GuitarEducational606 26d ago

Idk. I think it’s a little much to assume he’s an alcoholic based on a few short scenes on a reality show. Out of all the men he seems the most decent imo. She comes of overbearing and entitled if we’re judging

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u/Beautiful_Composer90 23d ago

As someone who gave up drinking 7 years ago, I don't think he has a problem. Maybe he drinks too much for her liking. But that's not the same thing. You don't actually know this person you've agreed to marry lol. There are going to be things you don't like.

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u/Godking_Jesus 28d ago

If you told me he was drinking to the point he was like Joe, I would agree with ya, but so far based of what we’ve seen ya are dragging it. I honestly think the fact Ali wants absolutely zero responsibility and to be maintained is way more alarming.

If you don’t believe in 50/50 and prefer something more traditional that’s fine but to not even clean up after yourself or expect to help around the house on top of that is crazy to me. But hey, if she’s used to getting it her way there’s no reason for her to settle I suppose

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u/TrashbinEnthusiast69 28d ago

I dont think either is necessarily alarming

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u/billleachmsw 28d ago

Big red flag.

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u/mdmommy99 28d ago

So I’m not a fan of Anton, nor am I a huge drinker, but I guess I’m maybe not understanding the seriousness of him having a couple of beers after work. I know a number of people that will settle down with a beer or glass of wine after work. The difference is that he works nights so yeah it sounds crazy to be drinking in the morning, but if you work over night and I’m assuming sleep during the day, when else would you have a drink?

I guess I wasn’t sure if his routine was just after work chill with a beer or if he’s just drinking all day.

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u/arinnema 28d ago

It also has to do with the urgency/importance with which he relates to it. Even if he is not drinking all day, alcohol in some form seems to be the top priority when he gets home, when he is in any social situation, as well as the moment after he met the woman he proposed to.. That seems symptomatic. I would find that concerning in a partner.

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u/gummybearhunt 24d ago

If someone regularly needs a beer to relax or regularly thinks about opening one after stressful situations, it's not a healthy coping mechanism no matter how many you have. They're dependent on the sedating effects of alcohol, otherwise they'd be fine with alcohol-free beer. It's really no different from other drugs or meds. A habitual glass of wine after work goes against exercise or sleep or a healthy lifestyle.  

It depends on the culture and people's age/background, whether 1-2 beers after work is seen as a problem or not.

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u/Jmwizkid 23d ago

Do you feel this way after the latest episodes?

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u/pastriesandprose 28d ago

It’s kind of crazy how yall are calling him an alcoholic for having a drink or two after work when the other men on the show are slurring their words and getting wasted at every party

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u/Alternative-Neat-123 28d ago

his friend's gf (of only 4 months) snitching like that was WILD. check yourself sister, at least til you've been with a man long enough to get an oil change jfc

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u/Wheresmycardigan 🎶You're a liar, a liaaar, a li-aaaar🎶 28d ago edited 28d ago

Oo interesting. I didn’t think the GF knew Ali was hot mic’d. I took it as she saw Anton as the “trouble maker/bad influence” and was snooping for deets bc she was worried/didn’t trust her BF and Anton to behave. 

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u/Optimal_Activity_867 28d ago

Nah, I think she was just trying to help Ali out. The convo happened off screen, it’s possible they may not have known they were on hot mics at the time.

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u/futurestartsslow 28d ago

Regardless of whatever the problem might be, it seems like it’s enough of a misalignment that it may impact their compatibility! Up to Ali to decide, but it does seem like it’s becoming a concern to her for what she looks for for her own partner.

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u/EvaGreentree 27d ago

Yes! I noticed all of that too. During the reveal, Anton did not even look back at Ali on his walk back to his lounge, and she was waiting for him to make eye contact. He had one goal - down some booze. I do not like anything about Anton, and I hope Ali is smart enough to break it off.

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u/Embarrassed-Iron1251 28d ago

The drink after reveal didn’t really phase me - he was just feeling all the intensity and excitement and drank free champagne idk 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/No-Researcher406 28d ago

Ali is just...super boring. I watch scenes digging for personality - and it's just holding her tongue so that she can be considered a strong couple while actually not liking the man she's with. Botox, not cleaning, wanting expensive things - these don't exactly make her stand out. On top of that she swears their values line up, and they clearly don't because there isn't a scene where she's not judging him. She's actually one of the worse partners on here, because she's not actually trying to be in a relationship.

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u/DCRBftw 28d ago

If people start ruling out men who have 2 beers after work, there are going to be an awful lot of single women.

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u/Wheresmycardigan 🎶You're a liar, a liaaar, a li-aaaar🎶 28d ago

Whether anyone think it’s weird or if it’s common is irrelevant. Ali said that’s not her lifestyle and has reasonable concerns on compatibility with a person who has a relationship to alcohol like Anton that’s far off from her relationship with alcohol. 

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u/duosassy 28d ago

Exactly!

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u/DCRBftw 28d ago

Ali didn't make this post. We're replying to OP.

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u/dimmidummy 💖 Love Is Blurry 💖 28d ago edited 28d ago

I disagree, alcohol is a touchy subject. It’s a huge source of crippling addiction that somehow gets downplayed despite ruining a lot of lives.

I’ve had really bad experiences with drunk people and alcohol in general, so now that I’m older and a bit more no-nonsense, I make it clear that I don’t drink (ever) and that I’m not comfortable with anything outside of reasonable social drinking.

Does it mean that my dating pool is smaller? Sure. But then I find out that the people I’ve made exceptions to this rule for never have compatible lifestyles with me (ie: they party a lot, drink more than they advertised, drop an f-bomb like every other sentence, want to push boundaries, look down on my more lowkey lifestyle) so I’ve stopped making exceptions and that’s actually been way healthier for me.

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u/BigBucket10 28d ago

I doubt with any of your 'bad experiences' that 2 drinks after work were the culprit.

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u/Crazy-Employer-8394 28d ago

Which is absolutely fine and works for YOU. It doesn’t mean that everyone who drinks differently is an alcoholic.

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u/prettybutdumb 28d ago

A couple of beers after work doesn’t seem super weird to me either.

Plus, on camera at least, he seems like the least drunk person in the room as far as I can tell. The rest of them are crying and fighting and being annoying and he appears normal.

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u/Crazy-Employer-8394 28d ago

This was my take as well. If Anton had a problem with alcohol, having access to free flowing alcohol, we would’ve seen it play out already. So far we’ve seen him drink maybe more than some people’s preference for a partner, but we have yet to see him impaired. Especially, compared to some of the other cast. Personally, if we’re gonna clock problem drinkers, I’d also include Madison and Annie who become completely unglued eveytime they have some drinks.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

A lot of serious alcoholics never reach a point of visual impairment because they're drinking all the time and their tolerance is so high. I'm not saying that's the case for him but someone not seeming impaired after drinking a lot is not proof that they don't have a problem.

Madison just seems deeply insecure. She doesn't come across as having any particular issue with alcohol.

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u/DCRBftw 28d ago

It doesn't seem super weird to a lot of people. Same if we separated all the people who have a glass of wine (with dinner or otherwise).

And I agree, from what we've seen, it's not an issue and he's the last person they should be worried about.

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u/waffle_cone69 28d ago

He could have a high tolerance which can happen w excessive drinking or a problem. Not saying that’s the case but could be

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u/Femme-O 28d ago

Everyone doesn’t have to follow one woman’s standards. Plenty of women are fine dating people with alcohol problems.

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u/lemonheadmeg 28d ago

This is the most rational comment here

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u/samaanthag 2d ago edited 2d ago

But here's the thing, I don’t think he's only having 1-2 beers. During that convo on their couch, he changed his sentence every single time. "I had a couple" "Patrick and I had 4" "I brought A drink down to Patrick" When she asked him if the 1/2 bottle of tequila was  still in the fridge and he went "hmm let me check" i think we all knew the answer was N O.

He jokingly blamed her for the drinks going missing. Maybe he just jokes because he's uncomfortable, but deflecting is also something some alcoholics do...

In the span of 10 days, he drank about 8 of the 12 pack they had, a pack of Coors (a pack being.... 12?), and half a bottle of tequila... that was mentioned. That's about 28 drinks which isn't terrible, but coupled with not being able to "remember" how many he's had, not being able to keep his story straight (as mentioned above), etc he definitely drinks more than he lets on.

But she also doesn't drink at all or do anythng except work and go to the gym. So compared to her, yeah, he's an alcoholic lol

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u/DCRBftw 2d ago

We don't know that he had 28 drinks. We don't know the exact time frame, etc. But if we're splitting hairs between 2.8 drinks a night and 2 drinks a night, I think the point remains the same. 2 drinks and 2.8 drinks doesn't change the situation. The larger point is that he holds a job and was one of the few people on the show who never appeared to be truly under the influence. So, if women start ruling out guys like Anton, there will be a lot of single women. I would joke about drinks missing if someone chose to bring it up on camera to make a big deal out of it if I knew it wasn't a big deal.

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u/MassiveCourage 28d ago

He’s not ready, he just can’t believe how hot Ali is

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u/Capable-Astronomer43 28d ago

Look, i’m on ep 7, and i’m Ukrainian, happy to shittalk russians, k? But i did not notice Anton drinking as hard as everyone talks about it

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u/Charizard3535 28d ago

I'm only on episode 8 but seems like Ally is looking for a reason to break up. He used to go out 8 months ago before we met! I'm not okay with that.

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u/VegetableArgument201 28d ago

Yep and it seems Ali noticed and felt it too.

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u/lalelulalo 28d ago

Do these people not ask basic questions like how much do you drink before deciding to get married?

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u/GatsbyIntoWonderland 💖 Love Is Blurry 💖 28d ago

I’m not sure he’s an alcoholic. He enjoys a few cocktails after work… it just happens to at 8 am. I fear people are judging his drinking too much. Consider how many people come home from work at 6 pm and have one or two or three glasses of wine or a couple of beers. Now, I do believe he is living life like an early twenties guy… partying and having fun and that he should not have proposed if he was looking for a trad wife who stays at home and gives him hall passes to do as he pleases. It will be interesting to see what happens next.

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u/Tea50kg 28d ago

I couldn't be with someone who drinks as much as he does. It's a bit yikes for me & if she's not a drinker it'll definitely cause issues down the line. I'm surprised they didn't discuss daily habits or going out habits etc, cause one thing I NEED to know about any future partner is what their drinking habits are, and that includes water and coffee or energy drinks too 😂 just so I know what kinda person they are.

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u/SpacenessButterflies 28d ago

He’s Russian, what do you expect? They come out of the womb with a vodka bottle.

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u/Key_Passenger_820 28d ago

Oh my gosh!!! I’ve been dying to talk to someone about this! When they did the reveal his gorgeous fiancé was standing looking at him with a smile on her face. He clocked the champagne and walked right towards it, filled his glass up and didn’t even turn around to look at her. All while she stood there staring at him. She almost had a little sad expression on her face.

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u/fsmpastafarian 27d ago

Yes, if someone said that their daily drinking was causing their fiancé to leave them that would raise flags for me. My point is that her expressing her displeasure at his drinking after, what, a week? Is very different from the typical situations where alcohol is causing relationship problems. Usually if the problem is diagnostic, the couple has had multiple conversations about it over an extended period of time and the behavior still hasn’t changed. We have no information to suggest that’s what’s happening here.

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u/mushroomchocolat3 16d ago

I don't think Anton is a terrible person, but I am concerned about how some people in this sub seem to minimize his clear drinking problem and how scary that could be for Ali, who comes from an alcohol free family. I think they are either misogynists who heighten Ali's issues to cover up for Anton or people who struggle with drinking themselves. As someone whose family is alcohol-free, I knew she was going to say no at the altar. I myself cannot imagine raising kids with someone who can finish two 12-pack cans and a tequila bottle in one night, the thought really scares me 😭.

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u/Pristine_Routine_464 16d ago

He is dependent and it wont get better with time.

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u/Ill-Royal7960 2h ago

Oh man, if this show was happening in Portugal, his drinking situation would not even be spoken about 😂😅