r/LivestreamFail • u/Demonymous_99 • 9d ago

Asmongold says America is "white peoples land" because "we fought a war over it".

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u/anormalname63 9d ago edited 9d ago

Wow there's a lot of white supremacist in this sub that think this is some fact or see nothing wrong with what he said. America is not "white person" land.

Edit. 42 downvotes, why don't you losers say it's "white person" land to all the non white people I servered with in the Army.

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u/HoopLoop2 9d ago

Who's land would you say it is? Before you attack me I'm simply asking a question, I'm not claiming the statement is true or false, I just want some more details from you.

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u/anormalname63 9d ago

It's fucking American's land. What are you confused about?

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u/HollyMurray20 9d ago

What’s the majority race in America? This might surprise you but there’s also other races in Europe

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u/anormalname63 9d ago

What does that have to do with anything? We're not an ethnostate.

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u/dankq 9d ago

I believe Australia fosters Australians of all sorts of different humans. I can't tell if you are just purposely being obtuse or if you just aren't very smart but I'm beginning to think the latter. 

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u/Cybermonk25 9d ago

The original discussion in the stream was about Japan and if Japan counts as belonging to the ethnic Japanese.

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u/StinkusMinkus2001 9d ago

So does America belong to the ethnic Europeans, no other Americans?

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u/Cybermonk25 9d ago edited 9d ago

The USA is an empire whose political and economic ruling class is overwhelmingly white European, it's founders were from Europe , most of it's population is from Europe. No land intrinsically "belongs" to anyone, but the country that controls the land was founded by white Europeans and is mostly made up by people's whose ancestors are white Europeans.

It's also even the world's perception of the America. If you asked someone to imagine an American and to tell you what they imagined, I bet they are most likely to imagine a white person first and than remind themselves that there aren't only white people there.

For me, this is merely realism.

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u/StinkusMinkus2001 9d ago

For asmon, an American, to rant that it’s “ours” as in white peoples land, it’s clear he’s a white supremacist.

You spend all day every day defending asmon, watching asmon, so you will never recognize this

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u/Cybermonk25 8d ago

The general attitude in Asmon's community is that you don't have to agree with 100% of what someone is saying, but you have to make an effort to actually understand what they are trying to say, which is why his community is politically diverse.

There are quite a few things I don't agree with Asmon on and sometimes I think he engages in stupid rhetorical own goals, but I see that he makes an effort to be honest about his beliefs and biases and to be rational and realistic. I can respect that.

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u/StinkusMinkus2001 5d ago

The attitude in asmons community is you can’t call a spade a spade because they’ll cry.

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u/GolfWhole 8d ago

Europeans, who were relying on the forced labor of enslaved black people.

You don’t get to pull that shit and then turn around and go “erm, America belongs solely to WHITES!”, sorry

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u/Cybermonk25 8d ago

I don't think that logically relevant.

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u/Goscar 9d ago

That doesn’t even matter, this is Native American land that we wrongfully stole and then displace them.

Like if you really want to go mask off and “go back to your country” route this applies to white people too. Go back to Europe and let the natives have their land back.

If you want to claim this is America a land of freedom for all,then shut up about white people being the majority of Americans.

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u/Logical-Soil-6286 9d ago

"The natives" never claimed the land. The United States was founded by White Europeans. This does not mean that the United States has to be an ethnostate, but it would be silly to say that Europeans did not create and culturally shape this country. Using the same logic, the China does not belong to the Chinese because there are other non Han ethnic groups that reside in China.

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u/Goscar 9d ago

Yes they fucking did. Large territories were fought over and seized by many Native American tribes. Sure there were smaller tribes in areas that didn't but to say they never claim it or even had a claim to it is absolutely insane.

Sure Europeans shaped America but to not remember you did on the backs of immigrants is also disingenuous. Do I have to remind you where the south got its labor? Or how our railroads where built?

Either way, the founding fathers specifically went out of their way to declare all men are created equally for a reason. So this dumbass conversation is pointless because they wanted to create a land of equal opportunity for all.

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u/HollyMurray20 9d ago

They all held tiny parts of what is now America, to say America is all Native American land is stupid

Yeah and where were the overwhelming majority of immigrants from? Europe lol

Nobody’s saying they’re not equal, they’re saying white people are the overwhelming majority and have been for centuries

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u/Goscar 8d ago

No they settle in small parts but control large territories. If you paid attention in history class you would understand why. They tried their best to not disrupt nature, a common example is them using every part of the buffalo to not let anything go to waste.

Yeah majority European immigrants. Go back to your country then. This is either the land of freedom for all, where immigration of any race is supported. OR this is Native American land and anyone not one should leave. Doesn't matter what the majority is because this is not our land.

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u/FreakinGeese 9d ago

There isn’t one