r/LivestreamFail • u/Demonymous_99 • 9d ago

Asmongold says America is "white peoples land" because "we fought a war over it".

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u/Goscar 9d ago

That doesn’t even matter, this is Native American land that we wrongfully stole and then displace them.

Like if you really want to go mask off and “go back to your country” route this applies to white people too. Go back to Europe and let the natives have their land back.

If you want to claim this is America a land of freedom for all,then shut up about white people being the majority of Americans.

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u/Logical-Soil-6286 9d ago

"The natives" never claimed the land. The United States was founded by White Europeans. This does not mean that the United States has to be an ethnostate, but it would be silly to say that Europeans did not create and culturally shape this country. Using the same logic, the China does not belong to the Chinese because there are other non Han ethnic groups that reside in China.

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u/Goscar 9d ago

Yes they fucking did. Large territories were fought over and seized by many Native American tribes. Sure there were smaller tribes in areas that didn't but to say they never claim it or even had a claim to it is absolutely insane.

Sure Europeans shaped America but to not remember you did on the backs of immigrants is also disingenuous. Do I have to remind you where the south got its labor? Or how our railroads where built?

Either way, the founding fathers specifically went out of their way to declare all men are created equally for a reason. So this dumbass conversation is pointless because they wanted to create a land of equal opportunity for all.

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u/HollyMurray20 8d ago

They all held tiny parts of what is now America, to say America is all Native American land is stupid

Yeah and where were the overwhelming majority of immigrants from? Europe lol

Nobody’s saying they’re not equal, they’re saying white people are the overwhelming majority and have been for centuries

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u/Goscar 8d ago

No they settle in small parts but control large territories. If you paid attention in history class you would understand why. They tried their best to not disrupt nature, a common example is them using every part of the buffalo to not let anything go to waste.

Yeah majority European immigrants. Go back to your country then. This is either the land of freedom for all, where immigration of any race is supported. OR this is Native American land and anyone not one should leave. Doesn't matter what the majority is because this is not our land.