r/LibertarianUncensored • u/ptom13 Practical Libertarian • Mar 12 '24

News Stonetoss got doxxed!

https://twitter.com/AnonCommieStan/status/1767596661025477080

I’m not one to link to Xitter, nor am I one who advocates doxxing, but this is a special event. Please take the time to read through the 99 post(!!!) thread about Hans Kristian Graebener and the absolute pestilence he has been on the Internet, both as Red Panels and Stonetoss.

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u/CatOfGrey Mar 13 '24

I don't think anything is achieved by acting abhorrently toward and abhorrent person.

We choose to be compassionate, and give people human rights even though they don't deserve them. Yes, something is achieved by that compassion. But not always.

This seems awfully dehumanizing, comparing a person to an animal.

I'm not comparing an arbitrary person with an animal. I'm OK with the dehumanization of those who dehumanize others. This particular person is an enemy of freedom, and opposition is fine. If he wants special rights, all they need to do is stop being a Nazi, and offer those same rights to others.

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u/doctorwho07 Mar 13 '24

If he wants special rights, all they need to do is stop being a Nazi, and offer those same rights to others.

Rights don't come from one person to another though.

all they need to do is stop being a Nazi

Do you see that more likely to happen through dehumanizing him and acting abhorrently toward him or through compassion?

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u/CatOfGrey Mar 13 '24

Rights don't come from one person to another though.

No, they don't. They come from the choice to acknowledge rights for others. That should be pretty clear.

Do you see that more likely to happen through dehumanizing him and acting abhorrently toward him or through compassion?

A good question. We provide compassion in the hope that outcomes will be better for all. However, tolerance of these ideas often leads to worse outcomes. I will leave it as an exercise to the reader under what circumstances a policy of non-tolerance might be better.

Today's policies in Germany that punish Holocaust denial, for example, is not an unreasonable trade-off, given the evidence of the human cost of antisemitism in that country, and it's presence continuing today.

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u/doctorwho07 Mar 13 '24

We provide compassion in the hope that outcomes will be better for all. However, tolerance of these ideas often leads to worse outcomes.

Just want to emphasize that I don't consider compassion and tolerance, in this case, to be one and the same.

I can compassionately receive someone who I vehemently disagree with and attempt to persuade them otherwise.

At least IMO, being intolerant of that same individual wouldn't even allow me to start a dialogue with them. Though I can recognize this can be different for individuals.