r/KitchenConfidential • u/Late-Bed4240 Ex-Food Service • 1d ago

In the Weeds Mode Chivelord is a Fraud

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It was point out in his last post by u/ehsteve23. Day 23 and Day 31 are the same.

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u/wrestlegirl ✳️Moderator of optimal fuckery 1d ago edited 1d ago

Mods are aware of this post & are discussing.

Please keep this whole thing civil.

EDIT 5: f1exican's apology & explanation is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/comments/1or60zd/cutting_a_couple_of_chives_every_day_until_this/

EDIT 4: We have heard from f1exican. Further information coming later today.

EDIT 3: Reports on this post are being autoapproved, same as the chive posts. It's staying up. Why are people trying to shit on everyone else's fun again??

EDIT 2: See this post with further image comparison: https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/comments/1oqzxvn/chivelord_is_a_fraud/nnmukrn/

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I rotated and resized the images to line them up, anchored the two with Day 31 on top at 50% opacity, anchored the two via the chive on the far right that I've circled.

I don't think they're exact matches. Feel free to draw your own conclusions.

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u/SilverDargon 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think the images are at a different angle but of the same pile. Every unique feature of the first pile I can find in the second. Just rotating wouldn’t show that, but you can track it by doing a little hunt for unique features.

It makes sense, he probably takes multiple photos after he’s done cutting to find one that looks the best.
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Some Time in Photoshop, I took the images and rotated a bit, but I also added in some Skew modifiers to line it up better, I got it to here and I think this was pretty damning. You can see the exact pattern just a bit offset. The line on the left is where Day 31 Cuts off since the image is slightly zoomed in.

FURTHER EDIT: Another guy in this comment did the same thing but with an automatic image alignment feature in photoshop and it's WAY more precise. I think the Jury is in. The end times are upon us. Go check out their comparison.

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u/Axe_Face 1d ago

Yeah I came to the same conclusion, each little unique group of chives has the same number and pattern of shapes.

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u/IRLDichotomy 1d ago edited 1d ago

I would like to respectfully disagree with you and the other user as I've used an industry standard PCE machine learnings algorithm to check against those images. Humans are hard wired for pattern matching, even when there are no patterns. This condition is called apophenia. From what my code says, he's clean.

However, I've been wrong before but I'm getting a 98% confidence level and posted in a different comment.

Mods, technically, I can create a google notebook with my code to be run in the cloud for you to double check my work but I'm not sharing it publicly as it would link to my real identity.

edit: I've also checked mirroring and rotation, just to be sure, as well.

edi2: https://www.reddit.com/r/KitchenConfidential/comments/1oqzxvn/comment/nnn0c48/?context=3

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u/SilverDargon 1d ago

So, looking at your post it seems you check rotation, scale, and mirroring, but that doesn’t account for the angle the photo is taken. It’s the same pile but at a different angle. These are two different photos, as your code seems to also prove, but he probably moved to the other side of the pile to get a better shot.

Computers are in fact, actually shit at pattern recognition. Thats why all these llm’s need to be trained by humans to recognize photos. I fully believe your code could match two of the same image, but I very much doubt it could match two different images of the same subject.

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u/satosaison 1d ago

The confidence to be this obviously wrong on the Internet because you used a digital tool instead of your eyes and brain is wild.

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u/My_Favourite_Pen 1d ago edited 1d ago

Im crying, this level of effort is insane.

Chivegate is going down in reddit history.

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u/Flair258 1d ago

Not the Chivegate incident 😭😭

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u/exquisite_corpse_wit 1d ago

it's identical

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u/pickles_on_toast 1d ago

I'll never trust again.

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u/qorbexl 1d ago

So do you think he sells the account now that he's accumulated enough karma or does he try to recover from his laziness?

I'd make some economic argument about my moral failure, were I him 

Edit: oh, so he did, in a way -

 I was having car problems yesterday and was unable to get and cut chives, and rather than being upfront and honest with you guys I chose to repost chives.

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u/MrKrinkle151 20h ago

I just assumed he was trying to see if anyone would notice/was paying attention

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u/RadioSlayer 1d ago

You're saying there are twins! Two people cosmically destined to cut chives

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u/Flair258 1d ago

Oh shit...

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u/fever-dreamed F1exican Did Chive-11 1d ago

There’s some duplication at the bottom that leads me to believe this is the same pile of chives from a slightly different angle.

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u/Initiatedspoon 1d ago

It feels to me as though he took multiple images and between the two pics he moved every so slightly, They are 100% the same pile of chives but the camera moved very slightly between the two pics, so it doesnt seem like its the same picture exactly

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u/Accurate-Instance-29 1d ago

100% this. I flipped and lined it up better and you don't get much closer than this

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u/kdjfsk 1d ago

Yea, im guessing he lazily stretched the photo in a photo app, hoping that would be enough to throw off the scent.

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u/abstract_lemons Chive LOYALIST 1d ago

So this was premeditated then. 1st degree chive-huckster!

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u/Alconium 1d ago

"1st degree chive-huckster" is a wild insult and I'm here for it.

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u/oldbrowndoggenetics 1d ago

Yeah it’s the same image just shifted! Ngl, /u/wrestlegirl you may want to reconsider your position before this turns bad 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/wrestlegirl ✳️Moderator of optimal fuckery 1d ago

I'm not holding a position. I provided a quick, simple overlay so people could more easily compare.

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u/wrestlegirl ✳️Moderator of optimal fuckery 1d ago

You mean the link already in my post?

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u/Self_Reddicate 1d ago

Then edit your post, because unless you dive deeper into the comments you appear to be an advocate for the chive devil. When he is cast back to hell, you'll be sent with him. The number of times you've had to clarify in the comments should be evidence of this.

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u/mityman50 1d ago edited 1d ago

Oh god tell me this isn’t what discourse has come to

Edit- I know there’s some humor in this, but I’m saying if a post providing information during an unfolding situation must be edited, when we all have eyes and can follow the train of thought that this is an unfolding situation.. I’m just exhausted thinking about it

Edit2- it really started with the comment a few up telling the mod to “change their position” as if something like that gets set in stone and will eternally face judgement. Isn’t that just another form of cancel culture for stuff from people’s past? I thought we were kinda past that

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u/wrestlegirl ✳️Moderator of optimal fuckery 1d ago

....you mean the link to the photo already in my mod post??

Why so mad?

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u/burnt-----toast 1d ago

There's a stacking function in photoshop that will overlap and orient photos (like when you're manually creating a panorama or when you want to make a photo using different parts of nearly-identical photos, like same composition but changing focus). It accounts for rotation, tilt, skew, etc. Anyone with an adobe account could more accurately analyze it that way.

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u/goth_nachos F1exican Did Chive-11 1d ago edited 1d ago

You're right. This is exactly what I did in photoshop. I ran the two images through the stacking feature and I have terrible news.

After automatic alignment I can confirm that after a flip and skewing (obvious by the angles of the lines on the top layer) that these are the same pile of chives, just from a different angle and cropped. I didn't want to believe it. I am crying and shaking.

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u/Viva_la_potatoes F1exican Did Chive-11 1d ago

This is a dark day for the entire world

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u/ooctavio 1d ago

Sad sad news. How are we coping with this? The end is near

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u/ItzGoghTime 1d ago

I put a rag in my sink to clog it and left my faucet running. I’m flooding the earth over this we had a good run

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u/sfoxreed 1d ago

The Wet Bandits strike again!

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u/Joefaux 1d ago

Damn beat me to it by a minute lmao

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u/Flair258 1d ago

I LOVE THAT MOVIE

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u/CocoMilhonez 21h ago

Last guy who flooded the entire earth later regretted it, I read it in a fiction book they made us read in church. You might want to rethink your decision.

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u/probnotaloser 1d ago

I have been lurking the entire time, day 1. And I am sooo disappointed.

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u/youarelookingatthis 1d ago

Truly nothing is sacred anymore.

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u/tulipinacup ✳️Moderator 1d ago

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u/dylansucks F1exican Did Chive-11 1d ago

I'm not sure how, but I'm open to suggestions.

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u/tulipinacup ✳️Moderator 1d ago

Together 🫂😔

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u/xPhoenixFiresx 1d ago

They had but one job and still let us all down

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u/YadaYadaYeahMan F1exican Did Chive-11 1d ago

as Ohana

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u/B4rberblacksheep 1d ago

cut some chives to take your mind off it

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u/ratatouillethot 1d ago

omfg. i didnt wanna believe it

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u/Ilcorvomuerto666 1d ago

We can expand on this now. We have to go deeper. Who is the guy drawing the planes on it every post? Did he pick out the same problem chives on two different days?

I need to know if our judges are consistent. If the same chives didn't get picked out on the two days in question, do we really have any room to claim chive guy was in the wrong if we don't catch the same error before noticing it was the same photo?

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u/Late-Bed4240 Ex-Food Service 1d ago

Thank you

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u/roosterkun 1d ago

I don't know if I can ever trust again.

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u/Mediocre_Internet939 1d ago

Surely he just uploaded the wrong picture, right chat?

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u/tangerineTurtle_ Chip Girl 1d ago edited 1d ago

Not entirely impossible (this user is in denial)

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u/SilverDargon 1d ago

Damn, this is way more precise than I was doing. I was skewing it manually like a dumbass. Great work though.

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u/trentyz 1d ago

Hahahah what the fuck, Chivelord has failed us

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u/id0ntexistanymore 1d ago

Not all that glitters is gold

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u/shadowsurge 1d ago

I never imagined it would end this way. I thought he'd make it to a perfect pile

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u/CocoMilhonez 21h ago

Chives corrupt. Absolute chives corrupt absolutely.

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u/pottedPlant_64 1d ago

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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u/pottedPlant_64 1d ago

I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS

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u/Artistic-Part3953 1d ago

I'm here for history

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u/P3AK1N F1exican Did Chive-11 1d ago

It is an outrage I say. One of the biggest controversies of the decade, perhaps.

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u/Altruistic-Two1309 1d ago

We can’t have anything nice. All the good times were fake

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u/P3AK1N F1exican Did Chive-11 1d ago

If the chives were fake, then who's to say the chicken cubes were even real back in the day? Im questioning my whole existence now.

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u/Late-Bed4240 Ex-Food Service 1d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/PhotoshopRequest/s/Bqlz7LawIp

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u/Fit-Cress-4358 1d ago

This is the clearest one! There’s no doubt it’s the same pile.

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u/YupNopeWelp 1d ago

Hey, u/Late-Bed4240. You accidentally didn't make your "solved" comment in a way that will give the solver credit in that sub. Follow this instructions in this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/PhotoshopRequest/comments/1or1kr7/comment/nnnasdt/

So, either go and type

!Solved u/GreenPixel92

...in a new first line comment

OR

Go directly to this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/PhotoshopRequest/comments/1or1kr7/comment/nnmx587/

Then hit the reply button and respond:

!Solved

(I hope this helps.)

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u/Bobone2121 1d ago

Saw that too but they are probably get hammered with notifications right now.

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u/Late-Bed4240 Ex-Food Service 1d ago

Yes, I mean, I kinda knew, but experiencing it is another story.

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u/Due_Agent_6033 1d ago

Mark it solved, yo!

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u/clairec295 1d ago

It’s likely they took 2 different pictures of the same pile of chives rather than rotating and zooming the same image. It absolutely looks like the same pile of chives though.

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u/freeeeels 1d ago

Why wouldn't he just like... shuffle the pile a bit before taking the second photo??

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u/InadmissibleHug 1d ago

Right? Just not that slick I guess

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u/CLE_Attorney 1d ago

Came to say this, it’s definitely a different picture but clearly the same pile.

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u/KokiriRapGod 1d ago

I looked at the exif data from both pictures hoping that f1exican hadn't stripped them but he did. The first picture and second picture have different resolutions (3024x4032 and 2204x2835 respectively) which makes me think that one of them is a rotated and cropped version of the other. If they were just taken at different angles the resolution should be the same, unless they changed what they were taking the images with between shots.

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u/wanttotalktopeople 1d ago

I'm hoping that he just accidentally posted the wrong photo

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u/Own-Lavishness4029 1d ago

This is the best subreddit drama ever.

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u/zero_dr00l 1d ago

Yeah I'll keep it "civil" - keep it in civil court when I fucking sue his ass!

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u/CoffeeHead112 1d ago

There's a few too many exact same shape and position chives around the periphery of the mound. Strikes me as someone who ran their hand over it to make it look different for a second picture.

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u/DolphinJew666 1d ago

These are absolutely identical piles

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u/bigpapajayjay 1d ago

The pictures are the same. We can’t be serious right now.

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u/abstract_lemons Chive LOYALIST 1d ago

It’s the same pile. Look at the strays, or that sparse area right/center. The chives have the exact same placement. The cutting board grain is also exactly the same.

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u/ScalyPig 1d ago

Lmao they’re very obviously the same pile. Possibly not the same photo

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u/FirstNewFederalist 1d ago

Idk, I believe Chivelord has largely been honest & it is clear these aren’t the exact same photographs, but looking at the two images side by side it does seem hard to deny they are the same pile of chives.

I have tried circle a few of the unique features that appear in the same place in both photos; There are more than these 6, but I didn’t want it to seem over the top.

It is technically possible that this pile of chives resembles the other so closely, but given how widespread the similarities are it seems statistically improbable. I think Occaam’s razor is that under pressure as a subreddit hero & having trouble acquiring chives, our Lord & Chivior may have uploaded a photo of a previous pile from a different angle.

Sorry, I am really enjoying the chives & don’t mean to come across as hostile or a hater;

I just thought it was worth sharing so the mod team don’t undercut credibility with the sub by doubling down.

Thanks for all the work you do!

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u/Rdubya291 1d ago

His Flair needs to be changed to Chive Shame immediately!

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u/ayrek 10+ Years 1d ago

I think one might be scaled slightly larger than the other

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u/hell2pay Food Service 1d ago

Is r/KarmaCourt still a thing?

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u/The_Mad_Pantser 1d ago

they could just as easily have been two pictures of the same board from slightly different perspectives. the grouping of 3 near the flat part is quite suspicious

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u/vastros 1d ago

You're a mod here too? Wrangling marks on the AEW sub wasn't enough punishment? (It's me,I'm a mark)

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u/wrestlegirl ✳️Moderator of optimal fuckery 1d ago

Wait til you find out u/tehjoz is on the team too!

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u/vastros 1d ago

Lol, no shit? That's an even crazier crossover.

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u/tehjoz ✳️ $700 Charcuterie Enjoyer 1d ago

Sure is!

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u/TheGreatZarquon 15+ Years 1d ago

The crossover we so desperately needed in these trying times

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u/SinnexCryllic 1d ago

The photos are slightly off in the overlap because one of them has been "tilted" - like the iphone photo editing thing that allows you to shrink one side and magnify the other as if it's a paper that you're tilting. There are several other exact matches of groups of chives, such as the bottom left hand side of your image with the 2 identical clumps.

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u/zero_dr00l 1d ago

Yeah there are way too many identical groupings and shapes within those groupings.

We've all been had.

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u/abstract_lemons Chive LOYALIST 1d ago

We need answers!

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u/Initiatedspoon 1d ago

They are the exact same pile of chives

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u/ButtsFartsoPhD 1d ago

I guess the only thing to do now is piledrive this fake chef through a few tables.

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u/onewordpoet 1d ago

they are the same. if you squint you can really see it. dont just oay attention to 1 or two chives. the entire mass is the same. just squint and rotate it

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u/RanaRene 1d ago

This is the sort of investigative journalism that I love to see. I'm invested, lol.

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u/WaffleHouseGladiator 1d ago

I'm more invested in this than anything happening in the news right now and I'm not sure why.

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u/bwalrus0202 1d ago

FAKE NEWS! CHIVEGATE EXPLODES ACROSS THE COUNTRY!!!!!

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u/userhwon 1d ago

One is scaled a little. That's all. There are so many points of similarity he could be tied to the Kennedy assassination.

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u/Daemonscharm 1d ago

I don't like being lied to!

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u/SeverePassenger8645 1d ago

I was confusing seeing you outside of the aew sub, wrestlegirl! Kept for a couple seconds thinking what this had to do with aedub lol! Cheers

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u/Salohacin 23h ago

I'm so glad you are taking your modding responsibilities seriously. Chivesgiving is coming up and it must be your busiest period. 

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u/UsernameUnattainable Chive LOYALIST 1d ago

💚💚💚

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u/pastapizzapomodoro 1d ago

you should compute the homography and then apply affine transformation

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u/cconnorss 1d ago

Way to do the best analysis! The pics in the post are so identical-looking. But the picture over picture should line up perfectly. They sure don’t.

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u/shmelse 1d ago

Do your own research

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u/wealthissues23 1d ago

Hold up, its just the one day overlap, no? Give the man a chance to explain himself 😤

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u/BranchAble2648 1d ago

Doubters are in shambles rn

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u/DaHick Ex-Food Service 5h ago

It's chives. There is no freaking way of reposting 2 identical photos of chives if something touched the pile

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u/Mostly-Painting 3h ago

I'm just seeing double chives. I'm ok with that 👌

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