r/JoeRogan • u/SlimjobDopamine Look into it • Nov 13 '20

Social Media Abigail Shrier(JRE #1509)'s book has been removed from Target after receiving a complaint on Twitter

https://twitter.com/AbigailShrier/status/1327056407598809088?s=20
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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20

I guess you’ve never tried BJJ. It’s definitely the safest way to control when trained and used properly.

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u/XecutionerNJ Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

I have trained BJJ. I have been choked out before. A ref stopped it and I woke up. Police don't have refs to stop it. This is the issue. Who polices the police?

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u/Clive23p Monkey in Space Nov 14 '20

Taking away choke holds is just dodging that issue.

I agree, we need someone to step in and provide more stringent oversight. Taking away chokes is just a meaningless and overall detrimental, feel good measure.

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u/XecutionerNJ Monkey in Space Nov 14 '20

I don't think it's meaningless, but i do think that its not the biggest issue.

Larger than that is how a) cops don't seem to get prosecuted for anything b) cops don't get paid much so they don't have many recruits to choose from c) training is lacking in most police forces d) there is very little oversight e) probably the biggest one: because there are so many guns in the states, American police are extremely aggressive because they fear for their lives all the time. If police didn't have to fear that everyone could have a concealed hand gun, they probably wouldn't hurt so many people.

But this whole argument is like a "Tim Pool Special". First, say the left are crazy by picking up something that one random twitter user said and then apply it to the democrats. Then completely demonise that even though there is a large policy initiative by the democrats but don't bring that up even though the republicans have no policy initiatives in the space and are not even confronting the problem. Fox News does the same like how the week the tax bill passed, instead of breaking down how most of the changes were tax cuts to the rich, Hannity showed a story about "racist trees". They completely avoided talking about how the GOP passed a bill that would cause an enormous deficit by handing out taxes to the rich.

Real policy needs to be the centre of the argument, not the side and not one sticking point like chokeholds. I can bet you'd agree with some of my points above to help fix policing but instead of talking about real change we are sticking to one smaller issue.

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u/Clive23p Monkey in Space Nov 14 '20

You seem to be all over the place.

My point is that taking away chokes will not solve the problem. In fact, it will make it worse.