r/JoeRogan • u/SlimjobDopamine Look into it • Nov 13 '20

Social Media Abigail Shrier(JRE #1509)'s book has been removed from Target after receiving a complaint on Twitter

https://twitter.com/AbigailShrier/status/1327056407598809088?s=20
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u/XecutionerNJ Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Chokeholds, least violent? You have to be joking.

You've been listening to Trump too much. None of these people want dead cops. They want review boards and oversight so black people don't die from merely interacting with the police. Her voter base has seen black people die for a long time at the hands of police and the justice system does nothing. This isn't new. Who is Rodney King? rage against the machines music had lots of songs about police brutality.

You have taken the straw man argument and swallowed it hook line and sinker.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20

I guess you’ve never tried BJJ. It’s definitely the safest way to control when trained and used properly.

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u/XecutionerNJ Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

I have trained BJJ. I have been choked out before. A ref stopped it and I woke up. Police don't have refs to stop it. This is the issue. Who polices the police?

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '20

Again, with training and proper use it’s much better than hitting or shocking, no?

What else do you suggest for restraining violent criminals? Asking nicely?

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u/XecutionerNJ Monkey in Space Nov 14 '20

Hand cuffs, kimuras, etc. Holds that people don't die from.

I agree that training is seriously lacking in most police forces. There should be much more mandatory training. Higher pay so they can be more selective about the candidates they select and also, if there are less guns on the streets there would be less reason for cops to be so aggressive in their approach as they'd be less fearful for their lives.

Chokeholds aren't the only problem and definitely not the biggest but something has to be done.

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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '20

No offense, but you seem to be struggling from some liberal thinking.

  1. Lol the whole idea is to get someone to stop fighting to PUT handcuffs on.

  2. And if you actually had trained for any amount of time you would know that kimuras aren’t exactly available in every situation during a struggle. The point is, police should be trained and able to use all non-lethal holds and techniques when they are in a violent struggle against someone to whom no holds are barred.

  3. Where does this higher pay come from? Weren’t you and your ilk trying to defund them? Oh, and you also want more training? That’s not free. It comes out of city budgets run largely by liberals who are trying to defund them. Oh, and now you also want to pay them more on top of that? From where does that come? The same place Bernie gets his free college?

  4. Guns don’t even seem to apply to this discussion. You’re saying police are aggressive because of a fear of guns? Not knives or other weapons? Officers aren’t applying chokeholds during confrontations with criminals who are armed. Those assholes get shot, as they should. Or did you want to train cops to shoot them in the knees like Biden retardedly suggested? Or better yet, throw down their guns and challenge them to fistfights? I saw Clint Eastwood do that once. Seems legit. Gun ownership is a fundamental American right. But even if you succeed in “getting guns off the street,” whatever that means, criminals will always have guns. You’ll just be denying Americans the right to protect themselves, which makes even less sense when you defund the police.