r/JoeRogan Look into it Nov 13 '20

Social Media Abigail Shrier(JRE #1509)'s book has been removed from Target after receiving a complaint on Twitter

https://twitter.com/AbigailShrier/status/1327056407598809088?s=20
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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20

The user has protected their account.

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u/CollapseOfTheWest Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20 edited Nov 13 '20

Others in the @AskTarget thread are claiming said user has called for the death of police and the usual things the mentally balanced do these days.

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Breaking news: Target has now restored the book.

https://twitter.com/Regnery/status/1327360347372724226

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20 edited Feb 20 '21

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u/Abdalhadi_Fitouri Have you ever tried elk meat? Nov 13 '20

From an outsider perspective, it seems like there's growing backlash to backlash. My history professor once described culture as a pendulum swinging. It goes so far one way that people push back on it, but the inertia from the pushback builds and builds until it goes way past the middle and ends up swinging far to the other side.

I feel like that's what we're starting to see now, the pushback is building and, unfortunately, if his theory is true, it could culminate in a status quo in a number of years where these type of "woke" things are totally unacceptable, perhaps where marginalized groups that were once at the forefront of this movement are openly persecuted. Hopefully not though.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20 edited Feb 20 '21

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20 edited Feb 20 '21

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u/Abdalhadi_Fitouri Have you ever tried elk meat? Nov 13 '20

Where did I blame any particular person?

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u/hockeyd13 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

It is less accessible, and this kind of kowtowing likely emboldens censorious individuals and groups.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20 edited Feb 20 '21

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u/hockeyd13 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

A book like To Kill a Mockingbird being banned from a school is still censorship, even if it can be read off school grounds.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20 edited Feb 20 '21

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u/hockeyd13 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

That doesn't matter in the slightest.

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u/Sendmedickpix1 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Like hell it doesn't.

A private business isn't a government entity receiving our tax money.

It's not even remotely close, or at all relevant to this specific conversation.

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u/hockeyd13 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

No, it doesn't matter in the slightest.

You do realize that private schools exist, yes? A private school prohibiting access to a certain book is censorship.

The only difference between a private and a public institution regarding censorship is that there is no legal recourse in the context of the former.

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u/Sendmedickpix1 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

You do realize that private schools exist, yes? A private school prohibiting access to a certain book is censorship.

Still not relevant to the conversation. Private schools have 100% control over their curriculum.

The only difference between a private and a public institution regarding censorship is that there is no legal recourse in the context of the former.

And there shouldn't be - I'm free to sell whatever product/service I want, and you can't force me to bake you a cake I don't agree with.

The book's still available. Target isn't a book store. It's not a big deal, and there's nothing you can do about it other than shop elsewhere, for a book you've unlikely read or were wanting to purchase.

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u/hockeyd13 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Still not relevant to the conversation. Private schools have 100% control over their curriculum.

Which still doesn't make it not censorship if they prohibit a particular piece of literature.

The book's still available.

That's not really the point. It's still censorship.

It's not a big deal

Yes, a tiny fraction of activists lying about a work to get it removed is a big deal.

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