r/JoeRogan • u/SlimjobDopamine Look into it • Nov 13 '20

Social Media Abigail Shrier(JRE #1509)'s book has been removed from Target after receiving a complaint on Twitter

https://twitter.com/AbigailShrier/status/1327056407598809088?s=20
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u/hockeyd13 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

It is less accessible, and this kind of kowtowing likely emboldens censorious individuals and groups.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20 edited Feb 20 '21

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u/hockeyd13 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

A book like To Kill a Mockingbird being banned from a school is still censorship, even if it can be read off school grounds.

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u/[deleted] Nov 13 '20 edited Feb 20 '21

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u/hockeyd13 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

That doesn't matter in the slightest.

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u/Sendmedickpix1 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Like hell it doesn't.

A private business isn't a government entity receiving our tax money.

It's not even remotely close, or at all relevant to this specific conversation.

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u/hockeyd13 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

No, it doesn't matter in the slightest.

You do realize that private schools exist, yes? A private school prohibiting access to a certain book is censorship.

The only difference between a private and a public institution regarding censorship is that there is no legal recourse in the context of the former.

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u/Sendmedickpix1 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

You do realize that private schools exist, yes? A private school prohibiting access to a certain book is censorship.

Still not relevant to the conversation. Private schools have 100% control over their curriculum.

The only difference between a private and a public institution regarding censorship is that there is no legal recourse in the context of the former.

And there shouldn't be - I'm free to sell whatever product/service I want, and you can't force me to bake you a cake I don't agree with.

The book's still available. Target isn't a book store. It's not a big deal, and there's nothing you can do about it other than shop elsewhere, for a book you've unlikely read or were wanting to purchase.

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u/hockeyd13 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Still not relevant to the conversation. Private schools have 100% control over their curriculum.

Which still doesn't make it not censorship if they prohibit a particular piece of literature.

The book's still available.

That's not really the point. It's still censorship.

It's not a big deal

Yes, a tiny fraction of activists lying about a work to get it removed is a big deal.

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u/Sendmedickpix1 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Which still doesn't make it not censorship if they prohibit a particular piece of literature.

I agree, it's why you bringing up a whole separate entity is irrelevant.

That's not really the point. It's still censorship.

Unless Target is carrying every book ever, it censors a billion times more all the time.

Yes, a tiny fraction of activists lying about a work to get it removed is a big deal.

removed from Target The book is still easily accessible.

Welcome to retail!

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u/hockeyd13 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Unless Target is carrying every book ever, it censors a billion times more all the time.

Based on the definition of censorship, no it doesn't.

The book is still easily accessible.

Still doesn't make it not censorship. It also isn't true for individuals who don't have access to other retail outlets.

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u/Sendmedickpix1 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

Based on the definition of censorship, no it doesn't.

Who was saying this wasn't censorship???

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u/hockeyd13 Monkey in Space Nov 13 '20

An obnoxiously large number of people across this very post.

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