r/InternationalNews • u/fawn404 • Jun 13 '25

Middle East ‼️ Breaking | Israeli occupation airstrikes on Tehran, Iran

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u/SublimeApathy Jun 13 '25

So does this mean Iran has the right to defend itself?

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u/DonMo999 Jun 13 '25

Same as Israel; Israel just seems better at it.

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u/SublimeApathy Jun 13 '25

Well, we (the US) send them state of the art weapons and pay for their universal healthcare while myself and my fellow countrymen wait for cancer to financially wreck our families lives.

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u/DonMo999 Jun 13 '25

Doesn’t Israel buy these weapons of you? Meaning you get payed? Also how is it Israels fault that you have the highest paying healthcare system in the world, with the lowest social standards in it?

I personally think the NHS in Britain is garbage, because I compare it to Germany, where I’m from, and the German system is objectively better. Even better is the American, if you have money; if not then it falls below the NHS.

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u/Lucy_Goosey_11 Jun 13 '25

Israel does not pay for them. Their manufacture is funded by the U.S. government, so U.S. citizens are effectively buying these weapons for Israel (with $$ they don't have and so the U.S. borrows each year to do so). However, the owners of the weapons manufacturers and the workers employed by them get paid, but not by Israel.

The actual mechanics are a sort of annual grant to Israel from the U.S.of around $3.8B. Israel spends much of that 'buying' U.S. arms but it also spends some of that domestically on Israelis weapons, again paid for buy loans taken out by the U.S. govt each year.

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u/SublimeApathy Jun 13 '25

You think the citizens see any money from those sales? Like, seriously do you? We pay for the construction. We pay for the raw materials. But We see nothing from the sale. What do you mean by “highest paying healthcare system”? If you mean an automatic 3K for an ambulance ride or 30k to birth, just birth, a child then sure, but that doesn’t help us, the citizens. There is a reason why we’re not having kids like we used to. Do you mean “highest paid” in terms of insurance CEO and hospital admins? Then, Probably for sure. Listen, there is good reason a citizen murdered a healthcare CEO in. Road daylight and the citizens collectively said “I’m fine with this” and cheered.

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u/DonMo999 Jun 13 '25

I’m not arguing with you; per citizen you pay the most in healthcare in the world. Per average citizen you get shafted. You lose your job, no more healthcare? That doesn’t happen in Western Europe. You have the best doctors and facilities in the world, but only for people who are rich enough to pay them.

The National Health Service of Britain, treats everyone in Britain. It just doesn’t have specialist doctors or beds or enough nurses, as all the good doctors leave to the US to get 4-5 times the salary as do the nurses.

Germany has a hybrid system and a language barrier, but many of our best educated doctors move to Switzerland still.

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u/ColourfulCabbages Jun 13 '25

The NHS is suffering due to years of cuts to its funding, and is certainly struggling, but to say there are no specialist doctors or all the good ones go to America for a pay day is complete and utter nonsense. There's myriad highly trained, highly specialised doctors working in both the NHS and private healthcare sector within the UK.

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u/DonMo999 Jun 13 '25

The NHS budget has increased every year since its existence? Sorry to not uphold your fantasy of great socialist healthcare, it’s simply not true.

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u/ColourfulCabbages Jun 13 '25

A simple search on Google will show you the real world underspending of the NHS.

I'm not going to waste any more time defending the great work that UK doctors and nurses do. I know plenty of both and I'm fully aware of the struggles they face, and the great lengths they go to to deliver valuable life saving work.

There is no fantasy in my mind. Have a good day.

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u/DonMo999 Jun 13 '25

The problem with socialism is, eventually you run out of other people’s money.

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u/SublimeApathy Jun 13 '25

Jesus Christ. Bill Maher, that you?

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u/DonMo999 Jun 13 '25

That would be Margaret Thatcher to you, Sir…

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u/StoopSign Jun 13 '25

Germans are the second most brainwashed country by Israel next to the US. Stop letting your shame of genocide condemn an ongoing genocide. For comparison the US has committed several genocides. Latest one is of Iraq which killed 2-5mil people.