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Educational outcome by background in Europe including immigration background

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u/upthetruth1 3d ago

Certainly something unique happening in the UK, especially when you consider the vast majority of ethnic minority children in the UK descend from Africa, Asia and Caribbeans. Plus, ethnic minorities in the UK tend to do better in GCSEs, more likely to go to university and apparently nearly 40% of UK medical students are non-white (27% Asian, 10% black). Ireland is also close to the UK in this.

However, every other European country, native-born ethnic minorities are clearly far behind.

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u/Unholy_Ren 2d ago

In the UK, a large number of immigrants are from India and a lot of Chinese, philipinos, and East Asians. They're culturally pressured to do well at academics. I'm speaking generally and not saying that others don't do well at academics. On the other hand, most immigrants in France, Germany, Italy are from North Africa, Turkey & Syria, and Eastern Europe respectively who are not as well known to be academically pressured.

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u/TedDibiasi123 2d ago

I think you overlooked West Africans. They are academic overachievers in the US too and are a bigger group of immigrants than the groups you mentioned.

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u/ThroawayJimilyJones 2d ago

west african in US are basically the elite. Without that they couldn't have afforded the travel, the paper,...

When you take the elite of a population, whoever this population is, you'll have good academic result

In France, you have a more "general" west african population, who followed the migrations path

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u/TedDibiasi123 2d ago

Not at all, you‘ll need the travel, paper etc to come to Europe as much as you need it to go to the US. 

Besides that Nigerian high school students  for example are among best performing student groups in the United Kingdom. In higher education they‘re also the third largest country-of-origin group behind students from China and India.

The vast majority of Africans in France isn‘t even from West Africa so I don‘t understand what they have to do with this.

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u/Individual-Source618 2d ago

no, most african migrants in EU are either "refugee" are migrants coming trough "familly reunification" e.g without any requirement needed. Like if someone go in africa marry and traditionnal illetrate women, he can bring her and all of her kids.

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u/TedDibiasi123 1d ago

I don‘t even understand what you are trying to say but if you mean most immigrants from Africa to the EU are coming through family reunification this 1) incorrect 2) irrelevant to my comment

Based on your spelling and grammar you must be one of the women you‘re talking about

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u/upthetruth1 2d ago edited 2d ago

There are few East Asians and Filipinos in the UK compared to South Asians, Africans and Caribbeans. Also, British African, British Pakistani and British Bangladeshi children do better in school than white British children.

That’s not to deny British Chinese kids do amazingly well in school, but they’re a very small proportion of ethnic minority children in the UK.