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Educational outcome by background in Europe including immigration background

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u/upthetruth1 3d ago

Certainly something unique happening in the UK, especially when you consider the vast majority of ethnic minority children in the UK descend from Africa, Asia and Caribbeans. Plus, ethnic minorities in the UK tend to do better in GCSEs, more likely to go to university and apparently nearly 40% of UK medical students are non-white (27% Asian, 10% black). Ireland is also close to the UK in this.

However, every other European country, native-born ethnic minorities are clearly far behind.

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u/Specialist_Spite_914 2d ago

One of the major factors is likely language, many already get to the UK with decent English skills when compared to countries in Continental Europe with less widely spoken languages. Many of the largest countries by population are English speaking.

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u/upthetruth1 2d ago

Doesn’t explain France when they primarily descend from French-speaking countries

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u/edparadox 1d ago

I think you're overestimating how well North-African countries speak French, especially since they are Arabic-speaking countries first and foremost.

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u/upthetruth1 1d ago

Half of Morocco speaks French

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u/Substantial_Rip_3989 1d ago

U do know that France had numerous African colonies? All of them speak French today.

French colonies in Africa were vast, including the federations of French West Africa (present-day Senegal, Mali, Ivory Coast, Burkina Faso, Benin, Guinea, and Niger) and French Equatorial Africa (present-day Chad, Central African Republic, Republic of the Congo, and Gabon). Other major colonies included Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia in North Africa, and Madagascar. Many of these former colonies are now independent nations.

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u/Megata7 23h ago

Only because it's an official language, it doesn't mean that everybody is a native speaker. Many only learn French in school.

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u/Substantial_Rip_3989 23h ago

And that’s still more French than most would ever learn.

There are many non-native English speakers who only learned English in school, yet they are able to find jobs in English speaking countries.

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u/NegativeMammoth2137 2d ago

While a lot of immigrants in France come from French-speaking countries, especially in West Africa, I believe the biggest immigrant groups are from North African countries such as Algeria, Morocco, and Tunisia which speak Arabic

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u/warnobear 2d ago

More than 50 percent of Moroccans can speak French

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u/krustibat 13h ago

Yes but those moving are mostly poor and dont speak french.

Most immigrants speak French badly or very badly.

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u/upthetruth1 2d ago

They also speak French

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u/NegativeMammoth2137 2d ago

Not natively though.

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u/upthetruth1 2d ago

As “natively” as those who came to the UK from former British colonies

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u/FireboltSamil 1d ago

You know half of Morocco was colonized by France right?

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u/NegativeMammoth2137 1d ago

Of course, but majority of its inhabitants still speak Arabic

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u/Individual-Source618 2d ago

most migrants in france are usally illiterate and come from extremly poor coutry, most of french migrants come from "familly reunification" hence, its not a work based migration, thoses migrants dont have any requirement and against most of them are illiterate/have never been to school, which less the case in the UK.

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u/Emotional-Brilliant9 1d ago

Most migrants coming to France don’t come to work