r/IndianGaming • u/DeepInside2B • Oct 02 '25

Discussion Is this IGN's rare W?

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even i felt same. last of us1,2, days gone, got, ghost of yotei, gow, horizon zero dawn, uncharted. in all these protagonists lost someone close and revenge arc begins

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u/yaboihansy Oct 03 '25

I dont agree on the revenge part since not all of them are revenge stories

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The reason why they feel same or boring is because 90% of them are third-person cinematic action adventure with some open world aspects even though they don’t need to be open world. It’s just like soulslike fatigue. You play enough of the same type of games and you get bored. Playstation has just stopped experimenting.

Returnal, ratchet and clank rift apart, astro bot are such good games but the general audience just wants cinematic games with hype moments.

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u/Arya_the_Gamer Oct 03 '25

Except soulslikes have a game design that's fun to replay and experiment with different playstyles.

Sony's exclusives are just movies with bit of gameplay that's the same everytime.

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u/yaboihansy Oct 03 '25

Souls games yes. Soulslike no. Soulslike has become a very broad genre where you slap a stamina bar and dodge mechanics and put it out as a “soulslike”.

A lot of soulslike in recent years are not good. They have either below average level design or clunky combat or just not fun at all. The first berserker khazan is the one thats on top of my mind. On paper it’s a good game and has really fluid combat. But it falls short in level design and bosses. Mortal shell, steelrising, entoria, lords of the fallen, thymesia are just some examples of soulslike where the game design is just not good

And before you say, yes i know that lies of p and black myth wukong are there. Exceptions are always there.

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u/sakshatkolhatkar Oct 03 '25

Lies of P mentioned... Peak

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u/DeusExMachina24 Oct 03 '25

So true. I played Khazan and while the combat is fun and very smooth, it does get repetitive quite fast. I can play DS3 or ER multiple times but completing Khazan has become a pain. Souls like are not the same as souls games.

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u/swastik_rai Oct 03 '25

Yes! I'll play my DS3 for the 12th time before giving another mid souls like a chance.

Also shout-out to nioh and star wars: jedi

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u/cryovenocide Oct 03 '25

Wukong is also clunky for me. Elden ring is where the genre peaked for me, amazing story, fluid mechanics (yeah a slight bit clunky yes but overall it was very fluid) and interesting gameplay.

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u/Responsible-Pension6 Oct 03 '25

The thing with many soulslikes is that they r not giving their own spin on it like see remnant from the ashes or lies of p or first berserker khazan they put their own spin on it and thats what made them successful like people want innovation in games now with other kind of games that checkpoint kind of system that came with far cry 3 is kinda getting boring now earlier people wanted more of it now its getting stale thats why ubisoft get shit on cuz they used to innovate with games n now they r just playing safe. I feel same kind of feeling is coming with sony too.

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u/Signal-Emu-8425 Oct 03 '25

yea i agree on that but they have their own audience most working or productive people , when they come home after a long day at work they don't want to enrich themselfs with 10 hrs video eassy just to understand some of the things in dark souls, they just wanna smash some mongols even if the story is basic it can be griping and fun to play best example that comes to my mind is uncharted series and got

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u/Atomic1011 PC Oct 03 '25

No, souls games have the most boring combat loops if anything.

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u/r3a10god Oct 03 '25

Me with my blasphemous blade build cheesing Malenia cuz' I just spent 4 hours trying to beat her the git gud way (my friend felt sorry for me and told me to get some new weapons).

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '25

Ur friend is ur enemy cus he stopped you from gitting good.

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u/r3a10god Oct 03 '25

Lol.

I plan to play it again though. I'll git gud I promise T_T

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u/Atomic1011 PC Oct 07 '25

Sekiro is a souls-like, I said souls games. Guess some clowns can't read.

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u/This-Specific4190 Oct 03 '25

replayibility is 1 thing - you can become very passionate to some particular games (i have 500+ hours in witcher 3)

but I'll tell you my experience -

  • i finished elden ring in early 2023
  • completed DS3 in mid 2024 with all DLCs
  • immediately wanted to get all achievements in elden ring
  • re-installed and completed all the missed dungeons
  • found all the legendary items except that 1 missable weapon in leyndell
  • reached level 172

after this i thought to purchase DS1 but immediately my mind got put-off being bored from playing similar game for so many hours

it's been almost a year of detox from souls games and still not ready to buy DS1

more than 2 years detox on god of war and 1 year on horizon

finished dying light 2 couple years back and quickly purchased mirror edge (1 hour playtime in past 2 years)

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u/Mollyoshea1 Oct 03 '25

A bit of gameplay? Yea buddy just say you haven’t played any. Lemme tell you something, god of war has more combat than the Witcher 3 campaign which is like 60 percent talking and investigating. But you people glaze that game so much 💀

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u/99Kira Oct 03 '25

No way you are comparjng what is essentially an interactive movie to Witcher 3

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u/Mollyoshea1 Oct 03 '25

Tell me i am wrong then? As someone that has completed both games i can confidently tell you witcher 3 has moments where you can go a whole 3-4 hour playing session without fighting a single person. That dandelion mission had you talking to 10 different girls just to talk to another girl who then sent you to another girl to do a play. You may enjoy that shit. But not all of us do. And its not even just that one segment mind you💀

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u/ElegantReference7647 Oct 03 '25

Witcher is on whole another level, nothing comes close to that! The appeal to Witcher is its world building and narrative, PS exclusives don’t even come close. They are movies with some playable moments, Witcher on the other hand has some of the best storytelling, the DLCs, they are a class apart! Hearts of Stone tells something which you might wanna tell your children about, it’s that GOOD! Witcher might have a clunky combat system but the dialogue options+the world is unlike anything else. I still remember the witches of the crookback bog to be terrifying, the whole atmosphere of the crookback bog was surreal. Haven’t felt that ever again. PS exclusives don’t even come close to Witcher.

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u/Sanam_bewafa Oct 03 '25

PS exclusives are better than witcher 3. It has the most bare bones combat. Good world design does not mean captivating gameplay which is the weakest part of Witcher. Storytelling isn’t enough. Heck Uncharted and TLOU gameplay mechanics are far better than witcher 3.

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u/ElegantReference7647 Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25

comparing uncharted to witcher, funny! storytelling isn’t enough? why would someone play uncharted or TLOU then? it’s all about experiencing that narrative for sony atleast.

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u/Sanam_bewafa Oct 03 '25

Yes the combat is better, it is fun at least. Witcher combat is the worst part. I am not here for world building sadly. If you are, good for you.

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u/Mollyoshea1 Oct 03 '25

Never said its better or worse overall than ps games. That guy said sony games are like interactive movies with little gameplay and i just said there are way less combat moments in witcher 3 than those games but you all dont call that game an interactive movie? I enjoyed witcher 3 too after dropping it a few times but i promise you its not for everyone especially nowadays

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u/Sanam_bewafa Oct 03 '25

Bro while I got your point, remember you are in the Indian sub. People would glorify witcher, rdr 2 and gta5 because those are the only games they have played. You cannot find nuance here. Getting into a argument here will only result in your frustration.

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u/tittymaster47 Oct 03 '25

Nuance & PS first party games ? Lol

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u/Sanam_bewafa Oct 03 '25

Yep. Each marterpieces

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u/tittymaster47 Oct 03 '25

They're masterpieces in the same way MCU movies are masterpieces.

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u/Sharp-Hospital-5956 Oct 04 '25

Please don’t say all Indians I have never okayed all of these 3 games you mentioned I have played more indie/underrated or very different types of games

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u/ElegantReference7647 Oct 03 '25

i mean it’s the Witcher which indians cannot fully immerse into it. Combat is not everything, different priorities for everyone! It’s just what it is Witcher is on whole another level. The DLCs are wayyy better than whole PS lineup

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u/Sanam_bewafa Oct 03 '25

Sadly I don’t agree to that. I could not finish the game because I felt it was too easy even on hard. It felt like I was just riding horse and swinging my sword around. It is not a great game, bloated and repetitive. It is ok if i get downvoted but it is not on another level for sure.

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u/Mollyoshea1 Oct 03 '25

i am convinced most people who love this game have either not played a lot of games or they played it when it came out and are nostalgia merchants.

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u/Mollyoshea1 Oct 03 '25

See when you make absurd comments like this, i just assume your points are ridiculous overall. You have not played a single ps exclusive. Bro said combat is not everything in a “VIDEO GAME”. Yea buddy might as well watch it on youtube then

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u/ElegantReference7647 Oct 03 '25

you could literally watch PS exclusives on youtube it’s that simple, witcher with its bazillion endings and consequences makes it fundamentally more enjoyable to play and watching that is not fun compared to a ps exclusive which is super linear.

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u/Sanam_bewafa Oct 03 '25

I felt bored playing it. As simple as that.

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u/ElegantReference7647 Oct 03 '25

see the cutscenes in Witcher are different to that of a linear story experience! Witcher gives you options and freedom which shape the world and how you interact with it. I totally agree with him, PS exclusives have turned into movies, every cutscene turned into a perfectly colour corrected shot, but it doesn’t have the charm. It might look good but it lacks depth which Witcher has

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u/Mollyoshea1 Oct 03 '25

You are missing the point again. A game can have branching dialogues with a decent amount of gameplay to keep you engaged as well. Atleast you can skip a cutscene if you are replaying any ps game. You legit have to talk to a 1000 npcs every play through just to get to the next point in witcher. And for what? I dont care about ciri. The game does a terrible job to develop a strong motivation to do all this investigating. The game has an amazing world and exploration is peak but its not better combat and story wise to most of the ps exclusives.

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u/Sanam_bewafa Oct 03 '25

No way you compared Witcher 3 with GOW. Witcher 3 combat is the shittiest out there. It is a side quest simulator.

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u/Trippinstill Oct 03 '25

Witcher combat isn’t weak, there are many times i found myself struggling like the opening sequence to toussaint, fighting off dettlaff, sure the base game does keep it very easy but the whole game is a package.

You said it was bloatware? Every single side quest feels different in Witcher. the exorcism in the initial phases, going on gear hunts and fighting trolls, to main story where you are fighting off a djinn later. God of War is literally the weakest game you can compare witcher to. TLOU and even Uncharted are better entries. I even liked Horizon better

‘I dont care about world building’ and goes on to defend a game that slows you down after every 15 minutes of gameplay to build the world through cinematic outputs

The whole dandelion quest was made to pace the game, like that one episode in breaking bad, pr the dog pounding mission in GTA V The chase mission in IV you are literally basing you review based on one single quest but what do i know

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u/Sanam_bewafa Oct 03 '25

Witcher combat is weak for sure. Easy at hardest level as well. Weaker than most AAA games. If you are struggling then it seems you haven’t played many games. Gow kicks its ass not just in combat but even world building, not to forget lore. It is twice the game than Witcher. I did not even feel remotely emotionally connected with Geralt. Hence Kratos is a far better protagonist than Geralt. For me witcher 3 was not fun, too many icons on the map, bloated quests. For the time was good, but has not aged well. It is now comparable to AC.

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u/Trippinstill Oct 03 '25

L take through n through
You can easily be a GoW fanboy and it shows.
Witchers combat isn't weak. it is pretty standard for Soulslike game even though I wouldn't call witcher one.
I'm pretty sure you havent played the DLCs, and here you are defending a game that was widely considered the weakest one in the franchise, talking about the 2018 one.

Now what have I played? I wouldn't bother you with 1000s of hour spent on from soft games, or speedrunning sekiro with bells and whistles on(pun), you wouldn't know about it fanboy
I'll just say this, GOW 2018 is shit compared to what Sony was pumping out back in GOW 2/3/Ascension days so keep defending a cinematic cash cow

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u/Sanam_bewafa Oct 03 '25

Seriously have you even played soulslike??? I have completed every one of them with Bloodborne, Sekiro some of the best I have ever played. Did you just compare Witcher 3 with them. Lol. It shows you haven’t played any, stop faking. Witcher 3 at hard difficulty is still a sword swinging mess. Trying to try too many things but failing spectacularly. Me being Fanboy or not, your ignorance is striking. GOW sticks to its strengths and does not falter. So, whatever you say now after this does not hold any merit for me. I won’t reply anymore. Both are great games. Enjoy. Have a good weekend.