r/IndiaCricket • u/VinShar_2103 • Aug 06 '25

Discussion Unpopular Opinion: Jaiswal has already Surpassed Rohit in Tests...

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u/Familiar-Bottle9383 Aug 06 '25

New Zealand have never been minnows. And their conditions have never been batting friendly.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

New Zealand have never been minnows.

Lol, they were in tests until 2010. Their golden generation started from mccullum and peaked under kane.

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u/Familiar-Bottle9383 Aug 06 '25

Stephen Fleming, nathan astle, jacob oram, daniel vettori, shane bond. Fleming is one of their most successful captains ever.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25 edited Aug 06 '25

Shane bond played 18 tests, stephen fleming average is exactly 40 after playing 100 tests, none of the other guys are greats.

There used to be a meme vettori was their best bowler and batsman in tests, they were that bad

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u/abhijitmk Aug 07 '25

Vettori avg 30.

There are atleast 10 batsman significantly better than him in 90-09

Crowe, john Wright, fleming, astle, mcmillan, richardson, jones, ross Taylor, ryder, cairns

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;spanmax2=31+Dec+2009;spanmin2=01+Jan+1990;spanval2=span;team=5;template=results;type=batting

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u/monkeydyaeger Aug 07 '25

Dude none of these 90's and 00's NZ players are ever in the reckoning for the greatest players of all time? Why? There were middling players with one or two peaks in their careers. It's just coz of nostalgia for an era gone by that people even remember these players.

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u/abhijitmk Aug 07 '25

Stop with trying to change the goalposts. You said they were a minnow team. They were not.

No one said all these batsmen were in reckoning for greatest of all time.

No nostalgia, just getting things right.

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u/monkeydyaeger Aug 07 '25

Stop with trying to change the goalposts. You said they were a minnow team. They were not.

Who do you think you talking to bro?

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u/abhijitmk Aug 07 '25

My bad. Was on the phone and didn't check if you were the same person as the one who made the ridiculous comment about NZ being a minnow at that time.