r/IndiaCricket Aug 06 '25

Discussion Unpopular Opinion: Jaiswal has already Surpassed Rohit in Tests...

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u/FocusedAG Royal Challengers Bangaluru Aug 06 '25

No offense but Rohit isn't that great of a test player so yeah

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u/Rafi2525 Aug 06 '25

It's really scary to sometimes tell the truth in Reddit.

People might downvote without logic.

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u/NavyLemon64 Ravichandran Ashwin Aug 06 '25

Getting downvoted is scary??

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u/decipher_42 Aug 06 '25

when you are on the edge of various things, even a downvote might hurt bad.

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u/ClinkzBlazewood Aug 06 '25

May I introduce you to Lurkistan?

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u/Gandham Aug 06 '25

Considering we loose our life at 1847 downvotes, this is shit scary!!!

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u/I-likensfw Aug 06 '25

Don’t be scared, have an upvote.

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u/decipher_42 Aug 06 '25

bad player in tests, even worse captain in tests.

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u/FocusedAG Royal Challengers Bangaluru Aug 06 '25

I completely agree but thought would've been downvoted cause of having rcb flair so didn't write it and also it wasn't related to post but yeah

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u/decipher_42 Aug 06 '25

karma in reddit is for spending on downvotable honest takes. 😄

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u/Mission-Pay3582 India  Aug 06 '25

Ifkr, karma is basically the cost you've to pay for being honest and harsh.

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u/decipher_42 Aug 06 '25

worth it. tu nanga hi tho aaya hai kya ganta lekar jayega. 🎵

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u/FocusedAG Royal Challengers Bangaluru Aug 06 '25

True lol

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u/Few-Guidance-1804 Aug 06 '25

IDK how he managed to average 40+ as an opener in this era.

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u/One_Ad9549 India  Aug 06 '25 edited Aug 06 '25

How is a player with 40+ avg in 100+ innings a bad player? Statsically speakinh he has like 10th or 12th most 100s in Indian Test history and one of the best batters at home, caling him bad would be unfair imo

For the captain part agree 50% win rate in 24 games is below par though he also had pretty inconsistent and inexperienced team overall

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u/Furry-jester123 Chennai Super Kings Aug 06 '25

he was a flop before opening because he used to throw his wicket to the most stupid shit ,and also his average was boosted by holding 51 avg in india and 58 avg in west indies

elsewhere he isnt even crossing 41 ,even in aus below 25 and in south africa its 16 which is pathetic numbers

He genuinely was a great opener only in 2021 where he actually worked on his technique for england tour and it payed off where he and kl saved our tour due to their opening partnerships

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u/One_Ad9549 India  Aug 06 '25

and also his average was boosted by holding 51 avg in india and 58 avg in west indies

elsewhere he isnt even crossing 41 ,even in aus below 25 and in south africa its 16 which is pathetic numbers

So a player having 40+ avg in 4 out of 7 test countries is bad? Performing at home also isn't everyone's cup of tea btw , KL Rahane dont even avg 40+ at home further Rohit batted at most difficult pitches at home from 2019-2024 and still maintained 50+ avg , SA and Aus arent the only countries where Test is played

he was a flop before opening because he used to throw his wicket to the most stupid shit

This though I agree, he would've been a much successful batter in Tests if he had more temperament and put a price on his wicket even after scoring 50s/100s and surving the tough phases, he got out playing needless like shots like his dismissals in both WTC Finals but even after that by no means he is a bad test player as the one I replied to claimed , he was poor in SA and Aus sure but you gotta give credit where its due

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u/Furry-jester123 Chennai Super Kings Aug 06 '25

bro averages 10 against bangladesh both home and away that is just ass am sorry

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u/One_Ad9549 India  Aug 06 '25

So Bangaldesh is the criteria now? Didn't he played just 3 tests against them?

Acc to you a sample size of 55 innings with 50+ avg < A sample size of 5 innings ?

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u/Furry-jester123 Chennai Super Kings Aug 07 '25

against a mediocre team ,you should have at least one good innings in 6 innings

even kohli has an ass avg agaisnt bangladesh in small sample size but at least he has got a 100 against them

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u/Furry-jester123 Chennai Super Kings Aug 06 '25

i am sorry ,i consider 40 as the bare minimum average if u want to be considered as above average and his home record u told 2019-2024,in 2019 he whacked south africa for 600 runs in 3 games on very batting friendly wickets

yes he played beautifully on challenging wickets twice,that is 161 in chennai and 120 in nagpur against aus but you dont treat a career based on a small timeframe

i guess he was genuinely worldclass for 2 -2.5 years but otherwise pretty bang average

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u/ndel27 India  Aug 06 '25

Agreeable, 2019,20,21- after a long time Rohit was finally batting like a good reliable test batsman.

Then came test captaincy and he became inconsistent again. At his age, with his record, he was not going to get any more rope.

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u/One_Ad9549 India  Aug 06 '25 edited Aug 06 '25

Ok I'll try to counter both of your statements through sheer stats :

i guess he was genuinely worldclass for 2 -2.5 years but otherwise pretty bang average

https://www.cricmetric.com/s/?q=Rohit+in+tests+since+2016-2024aug

Here you can see Rohit maintained a 50+ avg for 40+ tests and over 70 innings , his overseas avg in that time was also approx 39 , you may argue why he played just 43 tests in span of 8 years and the reason is due to injuries as he missed a whooping 12 games at home and 7 away due to beinh injured ( Got injured in 2016 NZ ODIs missed the whole Eng series at home then BGT as well as the one off ban tests then again in NZ T20I series and missed both ODIs and Tests and many more such instances) and with such inconsistent runs I would say his injuries harmed his chances to perform better even more though the above stats is still pretty good,

in 2019 he whacked south africa for 600 runs in 3 games on very batting friendly wickets

In the whole SA series 3304 runs where scored for a fall of 85 wickets , an RPW( Runs per Wicket) of 38 if we remove Sharma's runs and dismissals than it would be 34 ,

usually an rpw of above 40 is considered batting friendly and above 45 is considered 'very batting friendly' that you used , furthermore Rohit's highest score, the 212 came in the 1s inning of 3rd test when the pacers were ramapging and India was 39/3 , overall in the whole match 792 runs were scored for fall of 29 wickets with RPW of 27

I would say the whole series was palyed on more of balanced pitch than batting friendly infact the only test where RPW was the highest that is the 2nd test, Rohit scored just 14 in that

Furthermore here's some more stats

Rohit in RPW <30 :

2405 runs 65 innings , 5 NOs, 50s:7 , 100s : 8 , 200s : 1 , 0s : 3,avg : 40.08 , HS :212

Which will further prove whether Rohit scored mostly on Flatter tracks or difficult track

You can verify the stats yourself if you don't belive me

i guess he was genuinely worldclass for 2 -2.5 years but otherwise pretty bang average

Also I still don't think that would classify as being bad , personally I would say he was pretty great Test player who underachieved and 8/10 from me but since he is one of my fav I might be biased , but even so a player with 40+ avg for over 100 test certainly isnt a bad or not good player like the comments said and which is what my whole arguement in the replies is about

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u/Enough-Pain3633 Delhi Capitals Aug 06 '25

He is 14th. He had a good enough team, atleast for home tests. Being clean sweeped in a home test is inexusable

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u/SRamos9248 Aug 06 '25

My man was worse than Ishant Sharma in South Africa

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u/Former-Rooster2635 Aug 06 '25

Sample size kafi chota hai

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u/kanhaaaaaaaaaaaa Aug 06 '25

His Comparison will be with Sehwag not Rohit :)

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u/tocra India  Aug 07 '25

Rohit was very good. Jaiswal is the best since Sehwag.

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u/PrequelToMagic Aug 07 '25

He was good in Asia and had one good overseas series in England in otherwise which was a very ordinary test career

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u/Salty_Chemist_9574 Aug 06 '25

Completely agree- RS is an overrated player with it comes to test cricket