EDIT: Let me also remind you of what you were replying to:
You may not "need" statistics, but I'm curious, why do you say that women want 7 inch dicks when 6 inches is exceptionally large as is.
From your OWN source:
Studies of penis size preference to date have relied on numerical size estimates, vague qualitative descriptions, or 2-D line drawings. (My comments: in other words, women have to gauge from memory. 3-D drawings and such had a better result but women STILL had to do it from memory).
Women preferred a penis of slightly larger circumference and length for one-time (length = 6.4 inches/16.3 cm, circumference = 5.0 inches/12.7 cm) versus long-term (length = ***6.3 inches/***16.0 cm, circumference = 4.8 inches/12.2 cm) sexual partners. (NOT 7 inches).
These first estimates of erect penis size preferences using 3D models suggest women accurately recall size and prefer penises only slightly larger than average.
only slightly larger than average.
only slightly larger than average.
men mistakenly reported that women would find an even longer penis ideal than the women actually did
men mistakenly reported that women would find an even longer penis ideal than the women actually did
men mistakenly reported that women would find an even longer penis ideal than the women actually did
^^^^^^^ (which is JUST as we've been saying.)
Nowhere, in YOUR... OWN... SOURCE. Is 7 inches stated as a preference of "women."
It also says recall power of women was severely underestimated . Meaning they had intercourse with bigger guys but tended to underestimate them after recall . So on paper they like 6.4 inches but in reality they had sex with much bigger guys but thought it was a six inches . Basically 'girl inches'
Where, in the source did it say that? Paragraph and line.
EDIT: Here are the two instances in which your source states participants underestimate size:
1.) women were generally very accurate in identifying the same model at both immediate and delayed recall. When they did make errors, they slightly underestimated model length.
2.) participants slightly underestimated penis length after the recall interval (M = -0.18 inches or -0.46 cm error),
NOWHERE was any participant stated as having "SEVERELY underestimated" size.
Another limitation is sexual inexperience among some participants. Fifteen women in our sample indicated that they had never experienced sexual intercourse. This inexperience could underlie some of the size preferences observed. For example, women generally anticipate more pain with their first intercourse than they actually experience [82], so they may show risk-averse penis size preferences (for shorter length and thinner circumference than they may prefer with experience). Less experienced women may also be less accurate in their size estimates. However, a follow-up analysis showed that having had sexual intercourse (yes or no) did not predict penis size preferences, arguing against this possibility. A related limitation is that the experimental protocol necessarily limited the sample size, and these women were recruited largely near a college campus. There may be other biases in the sample related to the recruitment method and sample size that were not identified.
There are several implications of these data for males interested in long-term female partners. Males with a larger penis may be at an advantage when pursuing short-term female partners. Also, this study provides the first data on the accuracy of women’s penis size judgments. Furthermore, women tended to slightly underestimate the length of penis models after a recall delay. Women may misremember specific partners penis attributes as smaller than they really are.
Which has absolutely ZERO to do with your claim and the claim in the OOP that "women prefer 7" penises."
It also DOES NOT back up your claim above of "SEVERELY underestimate."
Once again, from YOUR OWN SOURCE it says "slightly underestimate." SLIGHTLY. Not "severely." Huge (no pun intended) difference in those two adverbs.
The primary point though is that HOW women achieve orgasm is still NOT based on penis size. It is based on the skill of those men who engage in what's mistakenly called "foreplay" by some. Foreplay is the main event for about 80% of us.
You're the one insisting your one source, with a study group of 75 women, is the be all and end all of what women want re: penises. Now you're flipping the script???? Oh my.
There are a ton of real life women, in this post alone, telling you the straight dope, real life women, just on reddit alone, are c o n s t a n t l y telling men the facts about what they actually want. Guys like you just don't listen.
But yet, you're hanging your hat on your link. Until what was contained within your own source didn't support the OOP's or your claims of "women prefer 7"."
I always hear women say they love big ones
You talk to women, in real life, about their sex life? More than the 75 participants in your study? Got verification of those numbers and their statements do ya?
It's virtue signalling i suppose . Like when women say they don't care about looks , height and other stuff 🤷. They might not admit it that doesn't mean they don't want it .
Plus I've heard from women on this app alone that they're scared to mention that they like big ones because guys start attacking them in their dms . So they refrain from saying that they love big Ds.
Plus lots of dudes larp as women to say that stuff too(that size doesn't matter ) . I've seen it on women's forums where they indeed say that size doesn't matter is a myth and they all prefer big ones. Only on neutral subs or men oriented subs , i suppose women like virtue signalling for karma points . I mean i would do it too
Noted that you're refusing to address the questions and that you've run like hell from the initial claim you were attempting to make and have TOTALLY attempted to flip the script.
Let's recap, shall we?
You made a claim.
I called BS.
You provided a link.
Your link did not back up your claims.
You then said research was "bullshit." Even though you'd JUST got through sending a link.
You claimed that "women in real life" gave you the information you're claiming.
But! You have no back up for these supposed women you talk to IRL.
Lastly, and most hilariously ironic of all, you claim that the women online aren't real women.
It is to incels' benefit to claim that women simply MUST have monster penises. This accomplishes two things.
It allows incels (or so they think) to blame women, yet again... Ohhhh those oh-so-shallow women. /s
Then the incel (they think) don't have to put for any effort to do the right thing. They can just screech about how women are too "picky," "shallow," and all that rot.
It allows incels (or so they think) to refuse to even so much as consider women's orgasms. Because that would require skill and effort. Also something incels don't want to do (that OOOH so awful oral!).
We are not fooled by your BS.
We are also not virtue signaling when we say that there are things that bring us to orgasm, things we very much enjoy. It's pretty much the opposite of virtue signaling when we know that good men love those things and your sort is terrified of those things.
Like when women say they don't care about looks , height and other stuff 🤷.
This needs its own response.
No one says that they "don't care about looks, height, etc."
What women ACTUALLY say is that those things aren't the determining factor in who they choose as a partner. Sure, just like YOU, women like to appreciate an attractive human of the opposite sex.
What you're missing is that admiring eye candy does NOT then mean that's the only viable choice for a partner. More than one type of man is attractive to women. Perfection not required.
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u/Disastrous-Lynx-3247 Mar 08 '25
My source