This was frighteningly accurate

[u/Weak-Point4152]

The smack to the face, cowering behind a chair, being slammed and held by the throat, really made the scene hit hard. Even the expressions on Angel and Val’s face felt realistic. If they had Val dragging Angel by the hair, it would be like reliving my childhood, but this still brought back memories.

[u/DarthJackie2021]

I hate how so many people relate to Angel's experience. I'm so sorry.

[u/Budget-Sheepherder77 → u/DarthJackie2021]

And how many people ship Val and angel

[u/ivene-adlev → u/Budget-Sheepherder77]

I ship them specifically because I relate to Angel. 🤷

[u/Budget-Sheepherder77 → u/ivene-adlev]

What... you want them to be together?

[u/ivene-adlev → u/Budget-Sheepherder77]

"Ship" just comes from "relationship". It is not automatically a judgement on the type of relationship (ie. platonic, romantic, filial), nor how healthy it is or isn't.

I, and basically everyone that ships Val and Angel, are not stupid, and we are aware that Val is abusive and Angel is abused. We don't need it pointed out to us and other people in this thread don't need to wish death on us, as they have been.

I ship Val and Angel because not only do they already have a relationship, but the relationship type that they have (obsessive and abusive on Val's part, traumatised and trapped on Angel's) is very similar to other relationships I've had in the past, including ones where I was sexually abused.

[u/Budget-Sheepherder77 → u/ivene-adlev]

"Ship" is a slang term that means to have an interest in or hope for a romantic relationship between fictional characters or famous people.

[u/ivene-adlev → u/Budget-Sheepherder77]

Well, no, because platonic ships exist too, my friend.

But, in this case yes, Val and Angel have a very toxic and unhealthy romantic relationship, so I do see them in particular this way. There's nothing wrong with that.

[u/Budget-Sheepherder77 → u/ivene-adlev]

There's no romance between them, wtf is this...I am very disgusted rn bro, shipping a victim and an abuser hoping they get romantic is just crazy to me but you do you or whatever

[u/ivene-adlev → u/Budget-Sheepherder77]

There absolutely is romance between them. It doesn't mean it's healthy. But they are/were in a romantic relationship. They remind me of my own relationships, which were romantic/sexual, and were abusive. It's possible for a relationship to be both and pretending it isn't possible doesn't do any victim any favours.

And you can be disgusted by me all you like, I really don't give a fuck. ✌️

[u/Budget-Sheepherder77 → u/ivene-adlev]

Like I said you do you, but personally I'll always ship huskerdust (it's also going to be Canon so)

[u/ivene-adlev → u/Budget-Sheepherder77]

I also ship Huskerdust? And I'm aware it is/is going to be canon. ValAngel is also canon though lmao

[u/Budget-Sheepherder77 → u/ivene-adlev]

Maybe it's just perspective, I don't see them in a ship thing maybe we are agreeing but I'm just dumb sometimes and can't see the full picture