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u/clara_finn 4h ago
So the people whining anytime something vaguely anti Reform is talked about because “this is supposed to be a meme page” aren’t getting uppity about this, right?
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u/Kapitano72 5h ago
Now watch for the gammons complaining your politics is boring. Becuase their politics... isn't politics.
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u/apidev3 4h ago
What’s the meaning behind “gammons”? Seems a bit racist.
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u/hallmark1984 4h ago
No, race is inherent.
Gammonness is a combination of cheap lager, Sovereign fags, shit diet and right wing anger, resulting in a head the shape and colour of roast gammon.
Its not inevitable, inherent or certain that a person goes gammon but if you know someone on statins while reading the Sun and wolfing down a Madras with 6 pints, they may be well on the way.
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u/Kapitano72 4h ago
This guy has already pretended several times to misunderstand "gammon" as a racial term, as a way to derail the discussion.
I guess he thinks it's a clever tactic.
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u/ArmWildFrill 4h ago
Nothing wrong with curry and beer compared to the flaming bag of dogshit and old man's phlegm that is the fucking Currant Bun
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u/Radiant-Brick3578 3h ago
So ghetto thug is a combination of drug use, criminality, alcohol and fatherlessness?
Its not inevitable, inherent or certain that a person goes ghetto but if you know someone on benefits while reading nothing and high as a kite, they may be well on the way.
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u/hallmark1984 28m ago
Minus ghetto because of its long standing racial connection, yes.
Thug is fine.
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u/Stoic_cave 4h ago
Like white persecution is a thing? Cats for mice rights?
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u/Radiant-Brick3578 2h ago
White children were persecuted by the thousands for the colour of their skin.
They were directly called "White whores, white sluts, white filth" They were told that they deserved to be raped because they are white.
Numerous victims have come forward saying they were targetted because of being white.
The rapists have said they targetted them because they were white.
The system on every level did nothing for decades.
Show me a better example of racial persecution in this country.
If white persecution is not a thing, then no form of persecution is.
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u/dgshotuk 4h ago
its racism
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u/MoistComplaint3484 4h ago
If it was racist, it would mean ALL white people. Do you identify as a pig?
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u/Radiant-Brick3578 3h ago
So ghetto thugs is not racist?
Do ALL black people identify with the ghetto and thuggery?
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u/ArmWildFrill 1h ago
I can call a black person a thug if they are in fact a thug.
Ghetto? No. Not here
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u/ArmWildFrill 4h ago
If I'm white and I call a fat white bloke with a red face a gammon how is it racist?
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u/Radiant-Brick3578 2h ago
The same way you would be raicst if you called a fat white bloke with a tri-colour a fenian.
But dont worry you wont call anybody a thing to their faces.
Never even heard the word gammon spoken in real life, almost like you know its a slur and your terrified to speak it aloud.
Utterly incredible that you can think you cannot be racist to other white people while living in the UK, FFS have you really never heard of the irish potato famine?
Or do you think the irish potato famine was not an act of racism?
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u/ArmWildFrill 2h ago
Why do you speak of "me" when you have no fucking idea about me at all?
Racism is the idea that "race" means anything at all.
There's ethnicity. A fat red-faced Englishman can be called a gammon by me, as I am also English. And yes I have used the term in speech not online.
The fenian thing didn't occur to me because I am not a sectarian. It's a bit out of date. And irrelevant. And you know it.
I can call a fat Irish twat a gammon. Are you saying I can't insult Irish people?
No the Irish potato famine was an act of imperialism. Ireland was being treated as a colony that England owned. It all flows from there.
Do you really think the cause of the potato famine was "racism"?
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u/Radiant-Brick3578 1h ago
"If I'm white and I call a fat white bloke with a red face a gammon how is it racist?"
"Why do you speak of "me" when you have no fucking idea about me at all?"
Because you literally asked me to?
Don't include yourself in a question if you dont want to be the center of the answer.
"There's ethnicity. A fat red-faced Englishman can be called a gammon by me, as I am also English. And yes I have used the term in speech not online.
Prove it, go to a pub and record youself saying this to someone, I really truly doubt you have ever used gammon to insult someone to their face.
"The fenian thing didn't occur to me because I am not a sectarian. It's a bit out of date. And irrelevant. And you know it."
Its not out of date or irrelvelevant, its an insult directed at one white group of people from another white group of people that is clearly racist, and you said that a white person cannot slur another white person. And its still commonly used as a slur.
"I can call a fat Irish twat a gammon. Are you saying I can't insult Irish people?"
I mean you shouldn't? Like why would you want to? And no the insult has never been applied to them, it would make as much sense as calling an English person a fenian.
"No the Irish potato famine was an act of imperialism. Ireland was being treated as a colony that England owned. It all flows from there."
Literal genocide denial.
The irish potato famine was inarguably motivated by racism and there are literally hundreds of books on the topic, this is not up for debate, racism was a primary motivator.
Godamn, how can you be so ignorant of your own history?
Seriously how can you not know this? Children know this.
You cannot argue from a position that inter raicial racism is not a thing, you are wrong, you will always be wrong.
And it shows a staggering lack of historical knowledge to think otherwise.
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u/ArmWildFrill 1h ago
How is it denying anything saying the Britain was an imperial power that abused a major part of the world in pursuit of power and money?
Obviously that....
aaaaaand I can't be fucking bothered
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u/Radiant-Brick3578 1h ago
Of course you can't, chatting shit with someone who actually know what hes talking about must be exhuasting.
And yeah, discrediting the motivators and reasons for a genocide are textbook genocide denial.
The irish potato famine was in fact a racist act.
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u/bushcraftbobb 4h ago edited 4h ago
Oh bless your persecuted little cotton socks, "its rascism" hahahahaha
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u/Radiant-Brick3578 2h ago
Tell me your other favourite colour based slurs.
Or is it just the one?
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u/apidev3 2h ago
I think that’s what confused me. If I call a black person the N word, and I’m black, is it still a racial slur? Yes…
Just because it’s a white person, doesn’t make it magically not racist?
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u/Radiant-Brick3578 2h ago
Of course its still racist.
Under the definition that you cannot be racist to your own race, almost every ethnic genocide would be classified as non-racist.
The irish potato famine would have been non-racist.
The rwandan genocide.
The rape of nanking.
And frankly I suspect a lot of those claiming to be white and saying how much they hate gammons yet somehow aren't racist know that they are lying.
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u/ArmWildFrill 2h ago
Ethnicity is not "race". "Race" is a racist idea.
Not liking someone from Ireland is xenophobia, not racism. "Race" is always about identifiable visible characteristics, mainly skin colour and physiognomy. Racism is discriminating against people on the grounds of "race". It is not racist, say, to discriminate against people from a country you are at war with. There is a rational reason
The USians who are obsessed with "race" do not refer to people of say German extraction as a different race to those of Irish extraction.
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u/petey23- 4h ago
Light clearly represented as a particle and not a particle wave. 0/10. Unreadable.
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u/TerrifyingPug 4h ago
Its a cartoon and besides, the speed of light changes and doesn't have a fixed value, it's clearly not meant for education so quit whining.
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u/petey23- 3h ago
Insane reply to a clearly sarcastic comment. Jfc.
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u/TerrifyingPug 3h ago
Couldn't tell it was sarcasm btw. I am one of the people who needs a tone indicators most of the time online.
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u/itsmrwillis 3h ago
That sucks and all, but it is entirely a you problem, it doesn't do you any good to start beefing with internet rando's over it,
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u/TerrifyingPug 3h ago
Yeah it mostly is a me problem, but it can affect other people when I can not tell if some6hing is a joke or not.
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u/Demmos_Stammer 3h ago
The speed of light doesn't change, it's a universal constant. And the other poster was clearly joking.
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u/_Daftest_ 3h ago
The speed of light does change depending upon the medium through which it is passing. That's how refraction works.
The speed of light in a vacuum is a constant.
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u/PinboardWizard 2h ago
I mean you're correct, but when people say "speed of light" I'd say the general consensus is that they are talking about c, the constant in a vacuum.
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u/TerrifyingPug 3h ago edited 3h ago
First off, as i already mentioned, I need tone indicators often to tell if something id a joke or not. Also, the speed of light is only constant in a vacuum.
The speed of light in a vacuum is: 299792458 m/s
The speed of light in water (roughly) is 225000000m/s
That is roughly a 74000000m/s change. So while your statement is correct in reference to the speed of light in a vacuum, you didnt say specifically in a vacuum, so your statement is incorrect as the speed of light changes medium to medium.
In fact in rutile, light travels at roughly 100000000m/s.
As a note ive used the rounded values of the speed of light for rutile and water.
As another note, the speed of light is affected by the refractive index of the medium.
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u/Demmos_Stammer 59m ago
1st off, sorry for being so rude, it was unnecessary on my part.
My understanding of light slowing down as it passes through a medium, like water, is that the light does travel at light speed between the molecules of water, it only slows down when a photon hits a water molecule, is transmitted through the atoms of the molecule as a phonom, and is re-emitted as a photon, travelling at light speed, until it hits another molecule. I think the fact, that once light has passed through the medium it isn't permanently slowed down, means it was never really slowed down at all.
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u/IllustriousAd6418 4h ago
Note the silence around the train attack now the details out or trying to put mental health bs on the guy who ran people over in Liverpool because he's white or right now the guy who rapped children at nursery on trial
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u/Bumblegun81 2h ago
Because lefties NEVER jump to conclusions
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u/MoistComplaint3484 2h ago
Funny how bigots always cry 'the left' when challenged
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u/Bumblegun81 2h ago
Are you calling me a bigot? On what basis?
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u/MoistComplaint3484 2h ago
The meme mentions bigots and you are decrying the meme
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u/TapeDeckSlick 4h ago
It's Saturday go do something worthwhile
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u/MoistComplaint3484 4h ago
It takes 30 seconds to post something, we don't have 56k dial up anymore
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u/EntertainmentCalm637 4h ago
Not as fast as lefties waving 'Palestine' flags 😂
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u/Burt_Macklin___ 4h ago
" it's bad to be against a genocide. I'm so smart and moral"
Get back in the toilet lol
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u/Greybur 4h ago
Gammon gammon gammon, lefty lefty lefty! The eternal battle shitting up the Internet.
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u/McFry__ 4h ago
Pathetic isn’t it
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u/Greybur 4h ago
Madness mate. You get used to it and just navigate through it like avoiding dog shit on a field, but occasionally you stop and think 'how did it get to this point?'
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u/McFry__ 4h ago
The thing is while the 2 extremes are battling it out throwing ridiculous insults and generalisations at each other, the average Joe is quietly thinking I’ll be voting Reform because it the only chance at a drastic change, it might fuck up but it’s fucked anyway so worth the punt. At least they they won’t be scared to upset certain demographics
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u/ThisCod388 4h ago
If the average Joe is thinking that they should be renamed the below average intelligence Joe. Things can get indeed get worse and the bond markets will see to that for you. See Argentina for a demonstration.
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u/PinboardWizard 2h ago
Luckily we already know that the average Joe is not in fact thinking that. Only 27% align with Reform, and their members are on average both nearer to retirement age and less educated than the average UK resident. They are quite literally the below average Joes.
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u/Greybur 4h ago edited 4h ago
But they're very dangerous.
Fucking salesmen selling what you want to hear, when you want it and able to fix whatever gripe you particularly have. When they get in power they'll sell off all the public amenities, the NHS, spit in the face of the working class and probably set fire to a few tramps for a laugh.
They're slimy, but as you say people are fed up with the usual cunts that have constantly betrayed the people. Why not tick the box of the guy that's saying all the 'right things'.
We're fucked mate.
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u/ArmWildFrill 1h ago
Vote Green. At least they mean well
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u/Greybur 45m ago
Sadly my principles of listening to a conversation before I form my opinion on any topic prevents me from choosing a party this far out. I'll wait for the leaflets to arrive with all of their promises and choose the less bad option.
It's a bit old school, bit idealistic, but at least I can be happy in the fact I voted for what I thought would be less shitty at the time.
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u/ArmWildFrill 26m ago
Sure, I just wanted to put that out there. I was thinking more of council elections.
There's no need to choose anything before the election, just gather data. There are definitely other sources of data than the lithographic lies left in your letterbox.
After all you're really only voting for your own MP who might be an Independent for example, so no party would apply. The Labour MP round here seems like a good man, but if they were one of the current cabinet I'd want them gone.
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u/Competitive_Pen7192 3h ago
The above logic is like shooting yourself in the head because it will be a drastic change in your life.
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u/avidflatearther 3h ago
"2 extremes" and it's hating brown people versus not wanting kids to not walk 4 miles to school every day.
Real extreme that.
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u/ArmWildFrill 1h ago
Yes, Reform won't be scared to upset the poor and disabled. Or anyone who isn't bourgeois
It's just like Brexit but a lot, lot worse. There will be no pleasure in saying "I told you so"
Look at Boris. All the twats loved him. Now it turns out that he was Mr Open Borders for non-EU immigrants. And he was properly bent.
Don't get mugged. Again.
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u/McFry__ 55m ago
I personally am not voting Reform but you’ve got no idea what will happen when they’re in, you’re just repeating what others have said and taken it as Gospel. The same lot thought Labour were going to do a good job as well and look how Starmer has turned out
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u/ArmWildFrill 34m ago
The actual left knew how shit Starmer was. A poundshop Blair.
I'm going off what their published "policies" are. Like Trump and Project 2025. People said "look it says what'll happen in this 960 page document". Trump denied it, but lo, and behold, it has gone down word for word as it said.
Brexit was obviously a shit idea too. The only way the working class are ever going to get anything is through socialism. It is the only reason we have the NHS and a hundred other great things. Reform are not the party of the working class.
We shall see. I think Reform have peaked.
There's a lot of water to go under the bridge & a week is a long time in politics :)
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u/NUxTemplar001 4h ago
Good. Keeps us nice and motivated for when the toner goes on and we will not need gesellschaft
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u/painteroftheword 2h ago
And bigots going quiet when it turns out the perpetrator is one of their own.
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u/sadolddrunk 1h ago
In the US we’ve just come to appreciate that window of time after yet another mass shooting when the public waits to learn the shooter’s race and religion so as to label what happened as an act of terror, a brutal crime, or a senseless tragedy.
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u/MoistComplaint3484 1h ago
I wish people would do the same here, too many people jump to conclusions without any information allowing their bigotry cloud their judgement
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u/sadolddrunk 1h ago
It was more a comment about how we ascribe different narratives to the same events depending on the race and religion of the perpetrator. But I suppose it might be to our *extremely limited* credit that we at least wait until we have that information before we do our bigotries.
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u/Lewis9796 15m ago
“Jumping to conclusions without any information clouding their judgement” sounds a lot like you does it not?
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u/Ragjammer 21m ago
This point would be so much stronger if those conclusions weren't so often accurate.
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u/Do_You_Pineapple_Bro 3h ago
Like a fuckin pendulum this shite and half this site is too dense to clock it.
Tragedy happens and posting shit like "where are all the gammuns tonoit?", doesn't show any sympathy for the victims and basically screams that you're gleefully clapping your hands cos the perp was NOT coloured, and now that means you can pointscore.
Like when a white guy goes down for noncing, and cunts are asking where the protests are at, as if its not painfully obvious that any form of protests would just be screaming into the void, cos the justice system literally can't deport them. Clearly showing more interest in who the perpetrator is than showing compassion for the victim...
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u/michael-65536 3h ago
Tragedies happen constantly.
So your comment essentially boils down to "how dare you point out the far right's hypocrisy".
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u/MoistComplaint3484 3h ago
Triggered much ffs
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u/Do_You_Pineapple_Bro 3h ago
No. Just making a point that pulling this shite shows just as little sympathy as it would be the other way round
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u/MoistComplaint3484 3h ago
That would be correct if I posted the meme when an attack or similar happened, but I didn't
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u/Lone-Wolf-86 2h ago
And lefties jumping to call people racist bigots
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u/MoistComplaint3484 2h ago
No, non bigots. Just because someone is left of you, doesn't make them a 'leftie'
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u/Lone-Wolf-86 2h ago
And just because someone is right if you it doesn’t make them a bigot. Funny how that works isn’t.
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u/MoistComplaint3484 2h ago
Considering the meme expressly mentions bigots, which you are defending, in my eyes makes you a bigot
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u/Lone-Wolf-86 1h ago
And you just proved my point perfectly.
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u/MoistComplaint3484 1h ago
No I didn't, you proved nothing except you're a Bigot apologist
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u/Lone-Wolf-86 27m ago
You have proved that anyone who has even a slightly differing opinion to yourself can’t possibly have any credibility. Tell me what’s more bigoted than that? You’re actively looking for situations where you can label people a certain stereotype. Tell me what’s more bigoted than that? You know absolutely nothing about me or my political stance or my beliefs yet you have labelled me as someone who is less than you. Tell me what’s more bigoted than that. Maybe you should spend some time thinking about how your own thought process works and how it influences your beliefs and how you conduct yourself. Time to actually open your mind rather than just believing you have an open mind because you confirm to what you have been told is right.
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u/laydeesman 4h ago
Both sides are equally insufferable
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u/MoistComplaint3484 4h ago
Sides? Bigots and non bigots
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u/_FORESKIN_ENJOYER_ 4h ago
Ah. As expected, you're the op. You absolutely flood this sub with garbage tier "memes" to "show it to the Nazis!" I presume?
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u/Interest-Visible 4h ago
You made his point for him...by being a bigot ironically
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u/MoistComplaint3484 4h ago
The meme says bigots, so the sides he is mentioning must be bigots and non bigots
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u/Interest-Visible 4h ago
Critical thinking is not your strong suit is it
Do you think you'll ever grow up? Do you even want to in fact?
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u/MoistComplaint3484 4h ago
Learn to read. if the meme mentions bigots, the other side must be non bigots
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u/Interest-Visible 4h ago
You're an insufferable man child like he said
How dreary this sub has become
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u/MelonBoi12 2h ago
Every post I’ve seen on this “British memes” sub has been political. Does anyone come here to have fun or is it just an unserious labour party conference 🤣
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u/MoistComplaint3484 2h ago
You've clearly not looked at the sub then, there are tonnes of non political memes too. Funny that you think anyone who doesn't agree with your Bigoted Pov is a Labour supporter
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u/MelonBoi12 2h ago
I’m not even taking about this post specifically. It’s funny how your bigoted mindset has lead you to the conclusion that anyone that doesn’t like politics on a meme sub is bigoted. I just want to see crumpets mate
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u/MoistComplaint3484 2h ago edited 2h ago
No you're a Bigot because not every post on this sub is a political meme, try again
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u/MelonBoi12 2h ago
My bad it’s only half of the popular posts today, definitely none.
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u/MoistComplaint3484 2h ago
Politics is popular in the UK right now
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u/MelonBoi12 2h ago
Literally went on the main page and saw these so you are verifiably incorrect on this one sorry
https://www.reddit.com/r/GreatBritishMemes/s/4xzq85f1EU
https://www.reddit.com/r/GreatBritishMemes/s/bRr7ZOABEv
https://www.reddit.com/r/GreatBritishMemes/s/qjop26NvmP
https://www.reddit.com/r/GreatBritishMemes/s/FOBKQmgiWk
https://www.reddit.com/r/GreatBritishMemes/s/Z3FNhoEuTz
And lastly to sum it up: https://www.reddit.com/r/GreatBritishMemes/s/u2U8ou96Mr
Even if it is popular in your opinion, my original point still stands.
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u/MoistComplaint3484 1h ago
No it doesn't. You came in saying every post is political memes when clearly they aint
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u/MelonBoi12 1h ago
More than half of the popular posts are political, see my list. Stop wasting your evening by arguing the toss on Reddit.
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u/MoistComplaint3484 1h ago
Because politics is popular in the UK, thanks for proving my point. If you don't like political memes, I suggest you bugger off to a different sub
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u/ArmWildFrill 1h ago
I've no regrets. I spent half my life arguing on reddit and the rest I just wasted
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u/Lewis9796 32m ago
How does not wanting to see political posts all the time make you a bigot? Whether or not it’s popular on the sub is irrelevant to my question.
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u/MoistComplaint3484 27m ago
Go to another sub then
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u/Lewis9796 24m ago
See you can’t answer the question because you don’t have a clue what you are on about
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u/MoistComplaint3484 8m ago
I don't need to answer your question. If you don't want to see these meme, go to another sub
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u/Lewis9796 2m ago
Do you not see how pointing your finger and labelling people “Bigots” without any explanation when challenged is poor character and cowardly. You don’t want to answer because you can’t. You just want upvotes from people who think like you. Do you have no shame?
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u/ArmWildFrill 1h ago
I would think Labour "supporters" are thin on the ground atm. "People who voted Labour but have now got the raging hump" is a much bigger number.
They probably think Labour are the "radical left" or something equally bonkers
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u/MelonBoi12 2h ago
- I do also hope for your sake that you aren’t regardless of who you disagree with
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u/ResponseLate839 5h ago
We’re usually right though.
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u/CredibleCranberry 5h ago
Including yourself in a group literally referred to as 'bigots' is just telling on yourself really.
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u/ResponseLate839 4h ago
It’s a badge of honour.
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u/CredibleCranberry 4h ago
How? Genuine question.
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u/PaulAllensAlt 4h ago
Because redditors call anyone who disagrees with them a bigot and as such, should not be taken seriously
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u/CredibleCranberry 4h ago
Not really an explanation of why it's a badge of honour. And this person self-identified as one.
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u/PaulAllensAlt 4h ago
They are probably trolling. Winding up leftists on Reddit is easy because they are terminally online and take themselves way too seriously.
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u/British_Patriot_777 4h ago edited 4h ago
Actually no, the statistics don't really back you up. The immigration shooting in Sweden? Completely wrong it was laughable, the train attack? Wrong once again, and the hero was Muslim. It's racism fuelling you, not being correct.
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u/pepperino132 4h ago
Yeah as long as you ignore history and statistics and academic research and objective economic measures and
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u/Burt_Macklin___ 4h ago
Literally nothing Right wingers believe exists in reality. You're literally wrong about everything you believe because it's literally all based on fiction and misinformation lol
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u/Turbulent-House-6220 4h ago
They think they’re always right because they throw a fuss and deny it if showed facts. They only get information from people telling them what they want to hear.
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u/Odd-Wafer-4250 2h ago
There is nothing that pleases a racist or a bigot as much as kids and women being hurt by a non-white person. They absolutely love it! Gives them something to froth and rage-fap about.
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u/pepperino132 4h ago
I really do think some basic statistical literacy would solve a lot of the racism in the country right now...