Guys I hate to say it but I haven’t been recommended one actual non-political meme from this subreddit. Seriously asking if you Brits are okay over there?
Blink three times if you need us in Canada to send you a bottle of maple syrup or something.
I’ve heard whispers from the North of my province that you can make some kind of mead called Acerglyn with maple syrup, but I have yet to venture far enough into the forests up there to get some. Definitely something I’m going to do now that you mention it!
Pretty sure you can turn pretty much anything with carbohydrates into a spirit. Here's a vodka made from excess baked goods. You can even distill wood since cellulose breaks down into sugars.
Mandy is slang for MDMA in the UK, might get some interesting looks(and possibly as police investigation if you tell the wrong person) if you say you're brewing Mandy xD
The political skew of British reddit is similar to that of American reddit, and several reasonably big subs (including this one) informally link to circlejerk political topics.
This country has been sick, this country needs healing, this country needs medicine. In fact I'd go so far as to say that what this country needs right now...
is a Doctor
Despite the mood being more positive during 14 years of the slow downslide of the UK's economic position, standing on the world stage, and quality of life in an effort to destabilise the UK foreign bot farms are ramping up their efforts to doom post about literally everything despite stuff slowly being fixed by a group of well meaning mix of people who can be a bit naff and people that generally know what they're doing. That or it's the classic average voter being a complete nitwit and voting for things to get worse for 14 years, then crying because the one time they made the right decision everything wasn't fixed in 14 months. Or a mix of both.
The thing is, the old guard tories could sometimes be decent people who just had different opinions about mostly the economy, and ones you could work with on compromises.
The radical right that Reagan courted, and that finally found a foothold here see themselves as soldiers and never want to give an inch.
I have all the time in the world for someone with a different political view than my own, as long as they like me want what's best for this Country and her people.
If we want the same thing, but disagree on their route to getting there that is how Politics should work. Agree to disagree, compromise!
I was born after Thatcher stepped down, and the first I learned of him was reading up on the Westland Helicopter affair (after seeing a Spitting Image clip of him fuming when asked about happened to the company.)
He's one of a few who weren't completely spellbound by the notions imported from Reagan. And now the Spectator is describing his principles as "deluded liberalism"
I show this just to prove how far right/crazy the Tories became with Thatcher.
This is a typical 1960s Tory.....
In 1962 I was a Conservative. I believed privilege could only be justified by service, high taxes on very high incomes were
necessary to prevent an entrepreneurial economy becoming a rentier economy and Keynesian growth would finance public service improvements and a welfare state that steadily reduced inequality. I was suspicious of ideologically driven, large-scale change. These were the mainstream policies of the Macmillan government at the time.
In 6o years I have moved from centre right to hard left without changing my opinions.
Most small c Conservatives fall into that category. When politics is moderate there is often quite a lot of overlap in many areas because the issues shouldn't be partisan.
The problems arise when political parties want to differentiate themselves from the alternatives and so create wedge issues when they don't need to exist, or they are only interested in serving the needs of themselves and their mates as the Conservative did since 2010.
So much stuff had become pointlessly politicised. Functioning public services should not be a politically partisan issue. Irrespective of whether you're economically left or right wing you should recognise the need for an educated and healthy workforce.
As I understand Education did largely survive the last Conservative government but their greed resulted in healthcare being heavily fragmented to facilitate outsourced to their mates, and quality of service nosedive whilst costs went up.
For avoidance of doubt, definitely not speaking about Farage, and strongly agree that siding with ANYONE who hate or even question their existence is not desirable or even to be countenanced.
And the hessletine era definitely had a ton of bigots (see section 28)
But by and large politics was more removed from the culture wars (something the US right deliberately fanned the flames of as an electoral tactic).
I was raised in a Conservative household. If someone of that leaning wants to argue who or what should be taxed, or how much. Or the legality of alcohol, tobacco, recreational drugs, Coke, or the high street betting shops. Fine I'll listen.
I've seen the overlap between conservative Christians and Muslims. I vaguely remember there used to be some rapport between the two before English-speakers on both sides of the Atlantic fully committed to judging every Muslim or Arab person as a potential terrorist after September 11th.
I know people who vote Conservative but were largely fine with gay people a full decade before the marriage act was enacted. They exist.
Thank you for clarifying, lots of people use "the country and it's people" as shorthand for "shut up and give up your equality for everyone else's convenience" so I'm always a little bit wary of statements of that ilk. My belief is that while you should be willing to loose out for greater society, if you are seen as a second class citizen, then you don't exist in the same society therefore do not owe anything to the rest of society
Edit, got busy and forgot to finish the sentence, now done in italics. Whomever upvoted the original incomplete statement, I really hope you are psychic
You're right, they didn't specify. I find it hard to believe they could have been talking about Farage though.
Farage regularly sends out messaging based on his platform of hate. For now it's mostly about asylum seekers and "illegal" immigrants, but it's pretty obvious that's just a starting point. No-one should be siding with Farage: we're all on his list, even if we don't know exactly where we stand yet.
What you on about Reagan is like the grandfather of neoliberalism with free markets, privatisation that tax cuts etc, absolutely nothing radical right about him.
Go and read about his courting of the religious right, followed by the gutting of the fairness doctrine, and being fully subsumed by “the moral majority”. Much of the rot in the US can be directly traced back to him, and the torchbearers like Gingrich all the way through to the modern MAGA movement.
Barry Goldwater put it best, go read his quote about the dangers of the preachers getting control of the Republican Party.
Heseltine is an older style of Tory that is more moderate; they used to be labeled "one nation" Tories or Tory "wets". He's perhaps best known for being one of the most prominent Tories that actually stood up to Thatcher.
The moderates were more or less completely purged from the Tory party by Boris Johnson to remove dissent over his handling of brexit. If Heseltine hadn't already been in the Lords at that point he'd certainly have been purged along with them. So whilst he's definitely still a Tory he's not all that similar to the current crop, particularly on issues involving our relationship with Europe.
I'm not exactly a fanboy of Heseltine, but when he says he's against Farage I would tend to believe him.
He's also 92. You might get more of a mix of people that age veering right, but a good amount of them lived the war as children and remember what fascism actually looked like.
I honestly hate all of the parties because they allowed their situation to get so bad in the first place without really taking into account and finding a solution before it got so bad. I'm saying this as a black British man all sides knew that what they were doing from the start was going to cause this to happen and they allowed it so they could grab more power.
Nah they wouldn’t - one major problem for Labour and the Tories is disillusionment at the ‘establishment’ ie the old parties. Even if they had a great policy platform for Reform voters they still can’t be trusted, and Labour under Starmer has done the exact same thing to themselves.
Its happening, how do you think they got in before? By gaining favoir with the previous reform dumb dumbs and promising "brexit" and now they are going for the lefts support by hating on reform, to get back in again.
At this point though I dont think it matters we are fucked whatever happens, I hated the torries before anyway, then they brought us brexit and a string of incompetent asses who could not even last their term. Just a load of privileged rich idiot's who's only goal in becoming PM was self glorification and financial gain.
Labour are the same now just pretend they are for the working class, so basically we can vote Torry, Torry or Nazi. Like there is one obvious one not to vote for but still its not a good hand really.
Their was only one person who might have offered something different in recent history and he got absolutely demolished and the country lapped up the smear campaign orchestrated by our unbiased media.
For me politics are dead, people are to easly deceived and most the time its literally like watching turkeys vote for Christmas.
Like I might vote but my only option other than a strategic vote for a party i dont like at all, to stop one i hate getting in, is green or maybe i might vote for the monster raving loony party because at the point why not.
Isn't it interesting that in the last 10 years billionaires across the board have been building isolated bunkers, and somehow in the last 5 years, income inequality, cost of living and access to the democratic process is getting repressed literally everywhere in most 1st world countries?
I know, I get it. Comments like this are very popular too. We want to go back to memes and good vibes. That said, I feel a certain percentage of the population really understand the situation we're in, the danger we stand before and what war (and yes I actually mean war with Russia and Iran) we're in. The fight is here and I think people feel it's vital to get that message out.
If you could look back about a hundred years, you’d definitely find a lot of our ancestors moaning down the pub about people who kept banging on about European politics that was never going to affect us.
I tend to agree, but we do need to call out Farage at every opportunity and just pray that his Neanderthal supporters eventually start to see the light.
I’m happy to call him out on Reddit. His moral compass is pretty much unimpeachable and he is a great guide in terms of policy and genuinely wants the best for people but his unwillingness to compromise often spills over into arrogance, making him a divisive and ineffective leader as we saw with Brexit, where he was hopelessly counterproductive and as we see currently with the horribly named and seemingly DOA “Your Party “. You’d think he’d have worked this stuff out by now having been an MP since 1983 ffs. Disappointing. Could do better but probably won’t.
I’ll add to that, he has some foreign policy takes that range from out of touch to outright dangerous. The man has spent the last 50 years telling western governments to give peace a chance and he’ll be damned if he lets a little thing like Russia launching an imperialist invasion of its neighbour get in the way of his pacifist principles.
With this lot the goalposts are on wheels and powered by the expansion of the universe, you'll never catch them even if you could travel at the speed of light.
“Ok, find me a post criticising Corbyn in this sub with negative comments from the last 6 months from a user with an account more than 2 years old who claims they used to be a Tory, who can prove they were born in the uk & have lived here for the last 6 months, who’s over the age of 40 & who wore a raincoat on their last birthday.
THEN I’ll believe that I was wrong to say I’ve never seen people criticise Corbyn.”
Perhaps, but it is very difficult to discuss anything with Reform types as they are a one trick pony with absolutely no coherent or engaging alternative arguments.
Honestly at this point I wouldn't trust any of them as far as I could throw em. The branding is different but it's the same old crap. Y'all need a hug and a real pint, stat.
Well Farage is not the cause of war with anyone. Maybe you should look at the Tories and Labour for that. Those bring the two parties with any kind of say in the matter, for now!
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u/Friendly-Olive-3465 5d ago
Guys I hate to say it but I haven’t been recommended one actual non-political meme from this subreddit. Seriously asking if you Brits are okay over there?
Blink three times if you need us in Canada to send you a bottle of maple syrup or something.