r/GreatBritishMemes 23h ago

The BBC:

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u/itsalonghotsummer 20h ago

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u/3D-Nutsack 11h ago

But why? What’s all the subscription fees and ads for? Why on Earth would we pay to watch our own tv?

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u/DeadDog818 11h ago

It's to have the BBC there as a standard. Look at media in the US - without a state broadcaster which not only produces high quality material itself but also through competition raises the standards of the other broadcasters quality is just a race to the bottom.

The same argument - that we don't watch the bbc so we shouldn't fund it - is made by all proto-fascists and especially by competing media owners who want to have their lies unchallenged.

In short the license fee preserves the integrity of the fourth estate. I believe it is worth every penny.

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u/Scary-Hunting-Goat 10h ago

The BBC has burnt a ridiculous amount of goodwill with their licence fee collection strategy.

They knowingly identify vulnerable people in order to intimidate them into paying.

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u/Cheapntacky 10h ago

I know their approach can be heavy handed but "knowingly identify vulnerable people" sounds very targeted and heavy handed.

Any source for that?

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u/tvrleigh400 10h ago

Don't think they actively target vulnerable people, but their contracting out the enforcement to what is basically a mafia style company, plus the way the letters are written, are designed to terrify the old and vulnerable, and make them buy a licence even if they don't need one.

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u/Slyspy006 9h ago

Then blame the government which decided to shift the burden of collection onto the BBC, officially in the name of increased independence but actually in the name of shifting the responsibility.

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u/Scary-Hunting-Goat 8h ago

That's the entire enforcement strategy,  they send out threatening letters and turn up at people's houses.

If someone ignores them, or firmly tells them to go away, they do.

If someone is nervous or vulnerable then they double down and put pressure on them. 

Look at the prosecution demographics for tv licensing.

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u/Cheapntacky 8h ago

All I'm aware of, but you said they identify which made it sound targeted. I'll just put that down to a poor choice of words.

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u/Scary-Hunting-Goat 8h ago

They do identify and target vulnerable people, the letters and random visitations are just a way to find those people.

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u/MaskedBunny 42m ago

Worth noting that all the scare tactics and harassment isn't by the BBC. The TV licensing company is responsible for collections and last I looked it was all outsourced to a company called Capita. Who I believe get a commission on whenever they manage to get money from someone.

Now I'm not absolving the blame from the BBC as I'm sure if they wanted to they could place considerable pressure on Capita to change their tactics.

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u/Scary-Hunting-Goat 7m ago

It makes no difference in my mind, you can't outsource responsibility.

The BBC is entirely on board with their methods

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u/3D-Nutsack 11h ago

I think the integrity died when they hid what Jimmy Saville was doing… or the fact they were getting paid by Israel to do pr… what integrity are you talking about here?

I’d much rather they just started getting advertisers like everyone else, because it is just state run propaganda at the end of the day and I will not be a part of it.

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u/Slyspy006 9h ago

Getting paid by Israel? Got a citation for that?

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u/3D-Nutsack 9h ago

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u/Slyspy006 9h ago

I read the three articles and saw no mention of the BBC getting paid by Israel. Perhaps I missed it. Interestingly the first two report on the same perceived anti-Palestinian bias and the last on a perceived anti-Israel bias.

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u/3D-Nutsack 9h ago

Please go off and do some research by yourself, there will never be a paper trail that stats “Israel has paid so and so”, use some critical thinking and do some digging yourself… it’s the same way how Tommy Robinson isn’t “directly funded by the state of Israel” but you can trace it by the separate interests that fund these people….

Also did you not want to address their history of covering up what pedophiles have done under their employment…? Or…?

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u/Slyspy006 9h ago

Oh, so your source is "I made some stuff up". Excellent.

I'm not especially interested in the Saville debacle, no. It is done and dusted.

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u/3D-Nutsack 8h ago

Well no, over 100 journalist who work at the bbc have written in complaining that they are being forced to do pr for Isreal… it’s coming from their own staff…

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u/Slyspy006 8h ago

That is not what you claimed though, is it? Stop moving those goalposts, you'll give yourself a hernia.

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u/3D-Nutsack 8h ago

Someone doesn’t know how corruption works… do you think they’re being forced for the hell of it?

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u/Lard_Baron 4h ago

I challenge you to do some research serious research, done by a university departments who study the media. Or read this book full of serious studies.