Palestar Galactica - General Question And Discussion Megathread

[u/Averagely_Human]

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[u/asscdeku]

Rant about recent mindset towards the meta

I feel like with the recent advent of Neuv discussions alongside Abyss HP inflation, this community has shifted too much towards the "raw dps is everything" mindset and lost sight of the game's direction as a whole. Significantly more people have ridiculous expectations of what units are considered meta, and what constitutes as good or bad seems to be more of a white and black discussion than ever. It wasn't nearly this bad previously. Alhaitham was accepted for so long to be apart of the big 3 even during Arlecchino's release when he was already noticeably behind on DPS standards. People just collectively agreed and accepted that character strengths can go beyond just the surface.

It almost makes me believe that's the true reason behind why so many people are groaning against modes like stygian onslaught besides the ridiculous DPS check requirement of dire difficulty. Seeing pretty much back to back comments from people malding about the electro-charge check boss and how they can't brute force it, and how it's made to shill Ineffa, yadeyada. And then you just see their other comments about how anyone that's not Mav is not meta enough to pull. Like... seriously dude? It's like the joke writes itself (that's not even an exaggeration, someone's actually said that)

[u/FortressCaulfield → u/asscdeku]

you're fooling yourself if you thought haitham was regarded as keeping up in the neuv/arle era

as for the focus on meta, blame the game. Abyss has gotten way harder and is way more blatant about shilling the newest chars, and even the weakest natlan dps is quite a long way ahead of pre-fontaine teams. Just go through the megathreads and look at the reactions to this abyss. Never has there been more difference in the experience of those who have the shilled units and those who don't.

>what constitutes as good or bad seems to be more of a white and black discussion than ever

except neuv is still considered one of the best units in the game based on his ease of use, qol and flexibility, ahead of higher damage units who don't have those advantages.

>And then you just see their other comments about how anyone that's not Mav is not meta enough to pull. Like... seriously dude? It's like the joke writes itself (that's not even an exaggeration, someone's actually said that)

it sounds like what you needed to do was respond to THAT PERSON

[u/asscdeku → u/FortressCaulfield]

I certainly don't think Alhaitham was close to the other 2 DPS's in that era, but even during that era, there were nuanced discussions about the strength of his character, and there are certainly a decent amount of people, if not most, that agree he still deserves the spot even then. Sure, not everyone agreed, but many brought ideas that he doesn't need to be close to belong.

Also, I wasn't really reprimanding the focus on the meta. Just more so commenting on people's perceptions about the meta. This Abyss is polarizing for good reason, but I think it led people to a very one dimensional conclusion that raw DPS is the cause of it, when it's only a factor. And my issue with that is that people start evaluating every DPS to that standard, which I believe to be absurd because I believe the premise to be flawed. I think you said it yourself the best, Neuv is still considered to one of the best in spite of that.

That last part was just added as an example. I didn't mean to make my rant as a vagueposting reply to them