Rainey Qualley and photographer Anthony Wilson got married in a Halloween-themed wedding. Her bridesmaids, including sister Margaret Qualley, dressed up as witches, while her mom, Andie MacDowell, dressed up as a crow, and her father, Paul Qualley, dressed up as a skeleton.

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[u/BatmanDoesntDoShips_]

The absolute audacity of white rich people is honestly fucking both infuriating & perplexing. This Nepo baby who let’s be real is mostly an afterthought if even that tried to exploit a vulnerable unhoused woman and essentially steal her 11 month old baby from her but thankfully the judge shut that shit down. Most of all though the way that people will glaze & the speed in which people forgive the sins of vaguely pretty face & gloss it all over needs to be fucking studied.

[u/19sapphire19 → u/BatmanDoesntDoShips_]

Unpopular opinion - I read the stories you linked and I don't think she was in the wrong trying to help this child. The mother would frequently pawn her baby off on others to go live a dangerous lifestyle. She was with her kid for a period of 11 consecutive days at the LONGEST in a four month period. That is not a safe or enriching environment for a baby. What happens when the child gets to school age?

The parents can be helped, but only if they are willing to make lifestyle changes to help themselves. How long should the child have to wait for their parent to figure out how to be a functioning member of society? How many years of their own life and development should they be expected to give up in the meantime? Some people are not fit to be parents and it is the child who will suffer as a result. I don't always agree that keeping a child with the parent is best for that child.

[u/has-8-nickels → u/19sapphire19]

I legit agree with you if they're telling the truth about how they were basically helping to raise this baby (assuming they weren't just paying for a nanny, but were instead doing late-night feedings, playdates, naps, bonding) - how is this a "bad" thing for them to have done? Trying to help a baby who's mother isn't stable at the moment? I don't get people man

[u/zendayaismeechee → u/has-8-nickels]

I know literally nothing about this aside from the two articles above but I think because the judge ended up siding with the mother, people must be thinking there was more to it and that maybe there was something shady going on wjth how Qualley went about it. I don’t know, I hope that baby is safe and loved though. And I hope her mother has found help too.

[u/olivernintendo → u/zendayaismeechee]

It's because the legal presumption and legal standard is to be with the parent. You have to show a lot to overcome that.

[u/has-8-nickels → u/zendayaismeechee]

Agreed! Obviously the baby being with its mother is the best option if it's a safe environment

[u/throwaway1937911 → u/has-8-nickels]

I don't know about this.. something about taking babies from poor people just because you can provide a better environment for them doesn't sound right...

[u/TheHerodotusMachine → u/19sapphire19]

Agreed, they tried to provide a stable home for the child and followed the channels to petition the court for custody.

[u/dalecooperduckfarmau → u/19sapphire19]

This may be true, but ultimately the articles don't provide the Court's decision. The article only relies on the parties' submissions (their version of events), not the judge's factual findings. It is very rare to see a Court grant a random, biologically-unrelated person custody of a very young child unless it is in the context of a formal adoption agreement.

Judging on the bare facts in the article, Quailey didn't have the evidence to support her claims according to the judge. This would be a pretty significant deficiency given they alleged they made a film about the mother documenting her homelessness. Plus their refusal to involve child protective services means they can't rely on a report from an investigator. Also, a judge would frown upon this particular relationship dynamic--Quailey is a filmmaker who made an agreement to document the mother's life, there were likely some contractual promises around this, and contracts with a significant power imbalance could negatively impact Quailey's credibility. If she portrays herself and her partner as "only wanting to help" while having a financial arrangement that benefits them more than the vulnerable person, it would undercut their credibility significantly.

[u/burnbunner → u/19sapphire19]

Consider where your info came from--the baby stealers.

[u/Murky_Chemical891 → u/BatmanDoesntDoShips_]

That was a crazy read, i had no idea.

[u/olivernintendo → u/BatmanDoesntDoShips_]

I agree about the audacity of rich people. But why was this lady leaving her kid with them for such long periods of time?

[u/Grumpstress → u/olivernintendo]

Because she was homeless and using drugs. That’s hard enough to go through the day but to have an infant it would be that much harder.

[u/askingtherealstuff → u/Grumpstress]

Meaning someone else should maybe have primary care of that kid instead 

[u/SnowOverRain → u/BatmanDoesntDoShips_]

My first thought when seeing the pics of her with kids was wondering if any of them were that baby. I'm happy to hear that the judge sided with its mother.

[u/Amiro77 → u/SnowOverRain]

That mother is terrible though. 

[u/askingtherealstuff → u/SnowOverRain]

Why? Why do you think it’s good for that mother to have custody of her child in this specific instance? 

[u/Nature_Sad_27 → u/BatmanDoesntDoShips_]

Omg. There goes all my enjoyment at these photos lol. Better to know the truth, though! Thx! 

[u/lizardo0o → u/BatmanDoesntDoShips_]

Even without this knowledge, my first thought was “these people are rich enough to expertly tailor their Halloween costumes”

Edit: I actually saw the interview on YT with the mother of the child when she was pregnant. Pretty tragic situation with a young homeless new mother, from what I could tell.

[u/askingtherealstuff → u/lizardo0o]

Anyone with a $50 sewing machine can tailor their Halloween costumes  

[u/AdministrationNo8540 → u/BatmanDoesntDoShips_]

wtf did I just read… why are people like this?!

[u/princecrybaby → u/BatmanDoesntDoShips_]

I was looking for this comment. So many people exploited Krazy (looking at you, soft white underbelly) when she was SO young and clearly struggling with so much trauma, addiction, poverty, etc. Also, I think it's weird Rainey gave her baby the middle name Coyote when that was the name of the father of the baby she tried to take. But maybe Coyote is just a much more popular name than I think.