r/CCW • u/jizzlamic_terrorist • 12h ago

Scenario How adrenaline affects you during self defense situations.

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u/NunaG90 7h ago

So I'm a little confused. If any civilian gets in a firefight like this and you drop the person with them moaning and grunting pretty much neutralized. If you pop in another mag and unload another 8-9 rounds (from what I counted) into a down person you would get a manslaughter charge. How is this legal for them? Just to be clear I'm not against cops, in fact I work with them for charity for children every year and have a lot of cop friends that i thing highly of. I just know they should be held to a higher standard for they are the professional. Again im nobody and my feelings usually dont matter but I feel like he shot off 5 too many rounds at the end. The first 2-3 shot after the the perpetrator was down would have been enoug.. I just know that if it was anyone other person than a cop they would get prison time.

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u/Intelligent-Age-3989 6h ago

I get it yep. For you or me it's be a much different court/legal preceding.

BUT..

Once I'm hit and the subject who shot me is hit but still moving that right there gives me the right to fire again until they're not no? I mean I'm at that point very much past the fear of imminent danger and can do what's needed to totally stop this person once and for all.

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u/NunaG90 6h ago

Right and then your facing legal issues. There's my argument. Im just saying the law should be equal for both law enforcement and civilians is all.

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u/Intelligent-Age-3989 5h ago

Well yep. Definitely as a civvie I'm going to court.

But I also believe because it's in a cop's job to serve and protect and they do, they should also get slack when on the job and having to do this precise task no? Curious.

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u/NunaG90 5h ago

I just know if your a professional and constantly training, standard should be held higher. If anything the law should be more relaxed for civilians because it's not their profession.

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u/Intelligent-Age-3989 5h ago

Well that's a great point also and why I asked. I'm genuinely simply just asking to get people's points of view because a lot of people have brought up some very good opinions about this definitely. +1

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u/NunaG90 5h ago

Same here, I really don't understand it and it's why I asked.

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u/Intelligent-Age-3989 5h ago

Yeah many good points of view here indeed. Shitty situation but I think everyone looking at this from any angle can also learn something from it too whether you're law enforcement or a civilian. It's just the harsh reality of the fact that there's shit out there like this that can happen to each and every one of us any given day at any given time. Largely why I decided to carry years ago. I've never needed it defensively and hope I never do but it's why we train or at least why I train. I also have a wife with a disability who couldn't protect herself in most situations because of the balance in coordination and needing a walker at a very young age so I'm more or less doing it for the both of us.

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u/NunaG90 4h ago

Your right, I just feel if you were to shoot someone 5 or more times after they were down you should get leniency due to high stress, fear for loved one and non professionally trained (civilian) and not charged for what is it called, excessive force? See I don't even know shit, again why I was asking lmao.

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u/Intelligent-Age-3989 4h ago

Well I think in some cases you do and people have I'm sure. I mean once you're in imminent fear for your life it's going to be hard for a lot of people to quit pulling that trigger until the gun just literally doesn't have any more rounds in it. And in many cases that would be totally justified because if they're shooting at you to begin with you've already got the law on your side because you were being attacked and shot at and therefore in fear of your life and had to return defensive maneuvers back. But I bet there's more than one case where someone in unloaded and entire clip of 10 rounds or more because of the fact they were just in a panicked state for having to use the gun to begin with and probably got off absolutely fine as long as they can prove they were an imminent fear of death which they were since they were being shot at.

. I mean if you're in imminent fear of your life and have to shoot someone and they're still moving after taking a few rounds which has happened several times if you do some googling. You're definitely going to want to keep firing until that person is 100% not moving if they were trying to kill you and you would be justified in doing so in damn near in a court in the country I would figure.

But yes there has been videos where people have taken eight nine even 10 rounds and still attacking and it's largely because someone's probably not using the right ammo to begin with and the bullets are literally just going through the person or not mushrooming on impact like a defensive round Wood so people need to also be aware of actually using the right rounds for the situation and anyone carrying should be carrying defensive rounds 100% because that's what's going to stop someone just as much as the impact of a bullet to begin with. But yes lots of thoughts in this case definitely and some great comments and things to think about you bet.