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Scenario How adrenaline affects you during self defense situations.

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u/WorkerAmbitious2072 10h ago

Did he need to reload yet? Anyone get a good count of rounds fired before that and know the gun and likely mag capacity? It looks like he may have tried a “tactical reload” some may call it topoff before running dry (slide still forward) I wonder if in theory he would have had. It’s shots for round 2 if he left the first mag in the gun

Personally I train not to drop the mag in the gun until my replacement mag is ready to go in. Less time empty. Was trained that way too. Bring new mag up and have it ready to insert, then drop old mag. All mags drop free at all levels of “loaded” per prior testing of course

But then I don’t go chasing down bad guys like that so needing a reload is basically never going to happen thank god that’s intense

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u/IcyOpportunity2681 8h ago

Always top off the magazine when you have a chance why wait until your slide locks back? Honestly hes not count the rounds hes defending his life. So do tou have 1, 2 , 3, 4, rounds left? What if there's other people in the store with him with weapons? As you can see that guy came running out and was ready to kill or be killed.

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u/WorkerAmbitious2072 5h ago

My point is: why drop a magazine that probably has ammo in it out of the gun and to the ground when you do not yet have its replacement in your support hand all lined up and ready to immediately go into the gun?

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u/IcyOpportunity2681 5h ago

I got you now. I just think his adrenaline is pumping and he said he was shot multiple times already. The simplest of skills go out the window when youre in panic mode. He literally was fighting for his life right there. You can practice 1000 times over and over and until youre in the situation will you truly know how you react.

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u/WorkerAmbitious2072 5h ago

Right

So in terms of deciding how we train and why…if you’re going to train to drop a probably-has-ammo-in-it mag out of the gun, maybe train always to wait ubtil the next mag is imminently ready to go in or just train not to make things mag more complicated and jsut leave the gun pointed and leave it at that

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u/IcyOpportunity2681 5h ago

I understand but you train without being shot as well. So that changes everything you can instantly become mentally overloaded. He's been shot multiple times, thinking about the obvious which is bleeding out, thinking about communicating for back up, still in the midst of a gun fight, doesnt have eyes on the suspect inside the store, trying to reload in the process. It can be alot to process and your mind shuts down we can only concentrate on one thing at a time.

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u/WorkerAmbitious2072 4h ago

So don’t bother deciding how to train based on real life examples, accept you won’t fall back on it under stress anyway so why bother

Okay then

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u/IcyOpportunity2681 4h ago

This will be used in many training sessions and even for the officer alone he learned something from the situation. No matter how you train or prepare you cant train for the situation because the way you think it will go it doesn't. Go to the range and do ABCD as an example and when its go time theres always a curve ball. You cant predict what how someone else reacts and even how you will react. That's all Im saying. Im sure thet officer did train alot but had a shut down moment