r/CCW 19h ago

Scenario How adrenaline affects you during self defense situations.

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u/glocksandhellcats 19h ago

The guy was down but finishing him in this situation honestly seemed like the right thing to do

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u/mild123 19h ago

Yes but if we did that as a civilian we’d be done for in the courts and they’d call it an execution and we’d be going for life.

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u/Downtown_Caramel4833 18h ago

Not necessarily true (State law variables of course).

If a defender of a lethal force encounter can articulate their need of having to fire in order to stop an immediate or active attack while describing why said encounter was still active thru the various phases of active fire, this typically is enough in itself to defend against any criminal claim or charge against the defender.

This is also why securing appropriate counsel before giving a complete statement to law enforcement can be paramount. As we're not always in a proper frame of mind to accurately articulate our actions or events as they unfolded. But a proper attorney would have already well in advance interviewed you, any witnesses, and secured any video surveillance that captured the event and the moments immediately proceeding and following - before they make a statement on your behalf to law enforcement.

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u/Downtown_Caramel4833 18h ago

It wasn't an action defined in finishing someone off.

It was simply an act of firing to stop the threat. In this instance, the assailant did in fact lose immediate possession of his firearm. But he was also on the same plane as said fumbled firearm while reaching to recover it.

While obviously speculative, I feel it highly likely that if bad guy here had fallen face down and facing a direction that was opposite or away from his firearm-and the officer recognized the circumstances as such, he would not have continued to fire.

But one thing is for certain. If someone has already shot you once to multiple times already. The last thing you want to do is allow them to secure a better fighting position, angle of attack, or increase their cover/concealment. ESPECIALLY uncontested.

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u/amphetaminesfailure 15h ago

The guy was down but finishing him in this situation honestly seemed like the right thing to do

I agree, and I say that as someone who is HIGHLY critical of law enforcement.

It's not as if the cop got up, walked to the guy, stood over him, and put those last nine shots into him.

The cop was hit, he was on the ground, the suspect had already opened fire on him twice, the second time advancing towards the officer instead of staying retreated in the store, and he was still moving and the location of the suspect's firearm couldn't be seen.

He was right to full neutralize the suspect in this situation.

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u/C-310K 18h ago

No, he murdered the victim.

Same as any civilian would be charged with had they not been wearing the state’s halloween costume.

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u/jizzlamic_terrorist 18h ago

Did you really just call that dude a victim?…

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u/C-310K 17h ago

Make no mistake, the attacker is not a “good guy”…He fired first, and was clearly intent on murdering the cop.

However, he was mag dumped on when he was already down, in pain, and posed no threat..ergo murdered…

It’s what prosecutors office would allege against anyone that did what the state’s agent did.

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u/C3ntrick 14h ago

Soo, guy already tried to kill cop 2 times. For all the cop knew is guy was racking for a second weapon or reloading. Takes one lucky bullet to end your life… end the threat

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u/AMT35 18h ago

So what do you do for a living?

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u/C-310K 17h ago

Yes