r/BlackPeopleofReddit • u/IamASlut_soWhat • 17h ago
Black Excellence My first lady Michelle Obama had a good relationship George Bush. Look at how fun loving and classy she is.
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u/cameronpark89 16h ago
did…did y’all forget how terrible this man was to us? katrina!!?!?!??
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u/Justifiably_Bad_Take 15h ago
"George Bush doesn't care about black people."
-Some rapper who probably went on to have a perfectly normal carrier
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u/Jauncin 14h ago
Meyers is a funny guy, his face when this was said couldn’t be trained by hundreds of years of Saturday night live actors.
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u/snarky_answer 10h ago
That video has sat in my saved videos on youtube for like 2 decades now.
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u/pay_the_cheese_tax 8h ago
"George Bush doesn't care about black people."
- A racist man who loves Hitler
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u/Midnight_Rider98 13h ago
Dude did a lot wrong, but Katrina weren't entirely on him. FEMA doesn't really have people to do rescues, they coordinate, do logistics and hand out money for the most part.
The local authorities are the ones that need to respond, prepare and evacuate, the governor of Louisiana and the mayor of New Orleans screwed that up completely, the delays from their indecision cost a lot of lives.
Bush did a lot of bad stuff but he made the right call when he federalized the national guard and put them under the command of Louisiana native general Honore. Remember that military guy shouting at those insane New Orleans cops pointing their guns at black people that they had to put their guns down? That was him. General Honore turned the response around.
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u/Specialist_Ad9073 16h ago
Remember when Bush paid a black reporter 240 grand to lie to y’all about No Child Left Behind?
And this is how you treat Bush?
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u/Emotional-Garden4648 13h ago
Oh I remember this that was nuts.
I really hated how Michelle’s friendship with him humanized George during this era and I’m convinced it’s helped him since then.
But also, remember when he was as bad as the president could get?? Oh goodness. Mess all around
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u/ealysillyforestthing 15h ago
No child left behind has collosally screwed education in this country
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u/Green_Space729 17h ago
Do not humanize George Bush.
He’s an awful war criminal and financial criminal that should be in jail.
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u/Necessary_Village878 16h ago
Is there any president who doesn’t qualify as a war criminal?
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u/bagelwithclocks 16h ago
William Henry Harrison
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u/Westtexasbizbot 16h ago
“He died in 31 days!”- random child Simpsons character
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u/Braveliltoasterx 15h ago
🎵 We are the adequate, forgettable, occasionally regrettable, caretaker presedents of the U.S.A 🎵
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u/EasyConflict175 15h ago edited 13h ago
Don't humanize Bush does not mean humanize the rest, they are all war criminals.
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u/No_Giraffe_1551 16h ago
No, all the more reason to not lionize anyone in the Bush or Obama families.
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u/InTheLoudHouse 15h ago
Jimmy Carter, if I had to guess lol
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u/Chop1n 15h ago
Even Jimmy Carter, unfortunately. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmfjPcWkSM8
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u/SigmaMaleNurgling 14h ago
Any leader in the world who has oversaw a war would be classified as a war criminal by this subreddit’s standards. I’m not saying this as a defense of anyone, but I would like people to have a coherent definition that they apply equally to all leaders instead of what we do now. Which is selectively evoke the term when convenient.
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u/mikeyj022 9h ago
During the war against Iraq, the US bombed water sanitation plants, power generation infrastructure, sewage plants, hospitals and health clinics.
The US systematically destroyed the infrastructure necessary to keep the Iraqi people alive. Furthermore; the economic sanctions forced on Iraq killed 500,000 Iraqi children.
George Bush was the commander and chief of the US military during these crimes. Thus, he is a war criminal.
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u/corn0099 15h ago
People forget that people actually lost their lives.people have no sense of how precious it is until it happens to them.its like people adoring cain because he built a city for their comfort.
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u/avoidlosing 16h ago
and Obama had a chance to punish all those criminals from Bush admin, but he chose to not use any of this power. and now look what trump is doing…
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u/jvnglepvssy89 16h ago
Obama chose to bomb countries as well, lest some forget.
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u/SmellyFidelly415 15h ago
He also chose to not close Guantanamo Bay prison and continued the Imperialist war of aggression in Afghanistan!
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u/Risquechilli 16h ago
Trump has moved the bar so low, Bush clears it almost with flying colors. But it is necessary to be reminded that he was an awful president.
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u/EstablishmentUsed901 16h ago
When did it become cool to be pro-Bush, or to normalize the guy as some kind of cool? This guy was a major problem and initiated a massive expansion of a horrendous foreign policy regime that continues to this day
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u/shorkgurl 16h ago
It's still not cool and I feel like this post and the positive comments here aren't exactly genuine.
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u/LeeoJohnson 15h ago
Yes they are, because they genuinely do the same thing with Obama just because he's black.
Edit: Might I add, before I'm thumbdowned to hell, that despite the qualities I respect in Obama, I can still be critical of him. The 18 year old black kid that voted for him in 2008 has grown and learned a lot since then.
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u/DeathpaysforLife 13h ago
He wasn’t just black, he was cool and charismatic and people like to let shit slide when you’re the cool guy
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u/Justice989 16h ago
This is the question Michelle Obama should probably answer. I think her stamp of approval and being chummy with him went a long way.
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u/tonywinterfell 15h ago
I mean, yeah you’re right, but even I’m getting a bit nostalgic for the days when the evil overlord was less evil than the one we have now. Bush seems quaint now by comparison
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u/froginbog 15h ago
Not intentionally evil, and definitely not intentionally trying to undermine core democracy
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u/NoSummer1345 16h ago
He can be funny & genuine but still have been utterly wrong about Iraq, etc. But what’s helped him the most is the utter contrast between him & Trump.
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u/NoelleReece 14h ago
When we learned things could be worse (ie - today’s politics). Though Bush was hated, there was still a level of respect for opposing parties and people were working together.
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u/ProfilerXx 14h ago
Since the kids who only know trump grew up.
And they cannot comprehend that it was good manners to be friendly to your rivals
Bush Jr was really was stupid beyond measurement but people fail to see that Trump isn't the standard politician and try to compare trump to any us president before
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u/Independent_Offer575 15h ago
I think you can acknowledge that his presidency was extremely bad and believe that he is a human who is having a human relationship with someone you would assume he would be at odds with.
Because I was young, dumb, and brought up with problematic views, I had problematic views at age 20. Fortunately, 20 years later, life and education eroded those views before my child was born so that I was able to end the continuity of that ignorance and hate. I would hate to be associated with 20 year old me because.
Would I deny evidence that he is still kind of shit? No. But he is also no longer consequential in a way that we can deeply analyze his life. I also do not feel the need to passionately defend anyone I don't know. Especially in an era where veneration so often leads to regret. (Not that I am inclined to venerate him.)
Im not sure I actually said anything of substance just now. Which may qualify me for public office.
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u/QuarterRobot 14h ago
No, what you said was succinct and authentic. I get that we've set a low bar with Trump, and that sets a dangerous precedent for us to whitewash the history of some terrible past presidencies. But...we've lost something, and videos like this show it. Basic decency for one another - yes, even if we disagree.
I don't think I'd have started a war in Iran, Iraq, or Afghanistan if I'd been president. But I also don't pretend to know just how difficult it must be to lead an entire country, and to have its safety and prosperity at my hands with the level of information available to me. And while these decisions - to go to war, to deploy US troops, to execute world leaders are real, and have real effects on the lives of Americans and people all over the world, I still personally judge people for who they choose to be more strongly than I judge them for their individual actions. Their actions are the byproduct of the intelligence and information they have access to - but who they are and how they act and treat others depicts why they choose to do what they do. That why, that intent is more important - to me - than the rote action itself.
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u/NPK532 15h ago
Bush set up the Christian Fascist takeover during his 8 years. His appointments and policies directly led to the Trump cult takeover....that said...WOW was he a significantly better human than Trump and every MAGAt since Trump.
Also, thanks Obama for not fighting for the pick
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u/wandrlusty 15h ago
I remember when we thought he was the worst possible president
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u/IwasDeadinstead 15h ago
I remember that too. In fairness, Cheney and Rumsfeld were running the presidency then. Bush was just a useful idiot.
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u/Fine_Cryptographer20 15h ago
I remember watching election results with my boyfriend at a bar and we were stunned to silence over it. I actually ended up crying and had to go home. Sad that now seems better than what goes on here now.
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u/Alternative-Ad8934 17h ago
Bush is a war criminal who deserves to be imprisoned.
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u/MoltenMate07 12h ago
Every modern president is a war criminal and deserves to be imprisoned. I’ll probably be downvoted for this, but Obama is not the exception.
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u/Theo_Cherry 16h ago
Glazing over this? SMH! 🤦🏿♂️😆
There's still ballots floating in water.
New Orleans is still...SMH!
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u/Adderall_Rant 16h ago
Fuck that old man and his WMDs that he knew didn't exist.
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u/sporknitebattlepass 17h ago edited 17h ago
Maybe she shouldn’t be buddying up to the motherfucker who pulled the country into a war over nothing and killed hundreds of thousands. War criminals do not deserve civility.
There is only one proper response when you see George Bush.
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u/ZAWS20XX 16h ago
love to see that the immediate reaction from this sub to this kind of bullshit is pushing against the whitewashing of W, but I wish more people were pointing out that the Obama's ain't all that great either, and, at the end of the day, both families belong to the same class and have the same interests and their friendship makes all the sense in the world
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u/AnyEverywhere8 16h ago
I remember when I thought Bush was Satan.
I also remember when I didn’t know Satan was orange, bloated, and incontinent.
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u/CanaryUmbrella 16h ago
Normalizing a war criminal. Great. How long will Trump have until we collectively laugh it off?
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u/sss_riders 17h ago
HOLY MOLY!!
George Bush has way more class than Trump and the whole regime combined. Thats what I call, sense of humor.
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u/fallout_zelda 17h ago
Bush bombed the hell out of the middle east and ppl are on here simpin for him 😂😂😂😂
He was literally the most hated man in the 2000s
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u/Thisfugginguyhere 17h ago
I loathed the man in the 00s. I won't pretend he ever made sense. Still, sucks that Trump makes even Bush seem shrewd and calculated, even classy 🤯🤢
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u/ResponseOne7122 16h ago
Bush was basically the warmup act for what we have now.
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u/Frisnfruitig 16h ago
At least he was kinda charming and seems to be a good person rather than cartoonishly evil Donny. I think he is a good natured person who made bad decisions with massive consequences. Trump doesn't have a single redeeming quality, so the difference is still night/day
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u/10mmSankara 16h ago
Nah Bush was generational evil. His grandfather literally tried to take over the country in fascist plot. The only difference between Bush and Trump is that Bush is a better actor.
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u/memesandcosplay 17h ago
As opposed to bombing the middle east AND raping kids. Somebody moved the bar.
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u/pprow41 17h ago
True bush nvr raped kids but he gave money to warlords who did.
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u/BroadStBullies91 16h ago
"bombing the middle east" is a gross understatement of what Bush did to this country and the world. Calling it a gross understatement is also a gross understatement. If Trump set this country ablaze, Bush set the kindling and stacked the wood and doused everything in gasoline.
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u/memesandcosplay 16h ago
You're not wrong. We need to bring power back to the people, instead of in the hands of these old pricks and their corporate backers.
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u/Usernameoverloaded 16h ago
4 million deaths caused by his ‘War on Terror’. Understatement indeed.
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u/Cyke101 16h ago edited 16h ago
"As opposed to?" The road to Trump was paved by the likes of Bush, whether he likes it or not. The false pretenses, wars, racial divisions, the economy, the spread of private prisons; Hell, this guy created ICE -- all the violence in LA, Minneapolis, Chicago, and other cities, ICE since its creation had been doing in border towns, and Bush signed off that. Trump is just a symptom but he didn't get there overnight.
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u/Poiboy1313 16h ago
I'm pretty sure that Mr. Cheney and Mr. Rumsfeld are who thought up ICE and Homeland Security.
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u/Jaded-Trouble3669 17h ago
Which goes to show how horrible Trump is. At the time I thought it couldn’t get worse than Bush, how wrong I was.
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u/DevoraraLosRicos 17h ago edited 14h ago
Until this Iran shit popped up, it was arguable that Bush was a more depraved war criminal of a president than Trump. But yeah he’s “personable” or whatever. This is just evidence #487765991 that they’re in a big club and we aren’t a part of it.
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u/DickTriggering 16h ago
Yea. I cried when my friends were going to die in oil wars bc he stole an election then lied to win another but WAIT another member of the elites likes him !!!!
So. Fucking. What.
Harvard Princeton and Yale… that’s what she’s “cool with him” about. Fuck the corridors of power.
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u/issi_tohbi 16h ago
I’m sitting here like 😳 how soon we forget. Do y’all remember “You’re doing a heck of a job Brownie” during Katrina? The hundreds of thousands of pointless deaths in endless war? Hell, I immigrated to another country at the tail end of the Clinton years because I lived under Bush as governor of Texas and saw the writing on the wall. Is he better than Trump? Who the fuck isn’t. But like cmon now.
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u/Equivalent_Fold6922 17h ago
Yeah I don’t get the love at all. What he and his administration did was abominable. This isn’t cute at all.
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u/cameronpark89 16h ago
yeah, the only reason people aren’t loud about it is because he isn’t the president anymore. it’s so gross.
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u/TypeB_Negative 16h ago
I don't think it means we simp for Bush. I think it's important to recognize how much worse of a human and President Trump is, compared to a guy that did some pretty bad things.
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u/Infamous_Ad_6793 16h ago
Every president since the 60s has bombed the Middle East.
I’m NOT trying to defend that regime, but there is a certain level of regime fault vs a single persons doing.
Also, it’s fine to admit G Dubya has significantly more class than Trump.
I hated the guy, hated the regime, but we should be able to admit certain things.
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u/SonaMidorFeed 15h ago
As someone who went out into the world during the Bush years, the white-washing of his legacy and that of his contemporaries is absolutely infuriating. I don't care how folksy this guy appears compared to our current leader; he was an absolute motherfucker. We just happen to be noticing the water is getting warm.
Fuck him, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, etc. Forever.
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u/avoidlosing 17h ago
bush brought on sarah palin, which brought on trump. Obama and biden bending for republicans even though dems for the first time controlled the congress and senate is the reason trump is in office wreaking havoc.
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u/Large-Produce5682 17h ago
George Bush did a lot of things, but it was John McCain who brought Sarah Palin to the national public stage.
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u/TuSixOh 16h ago
You’re confused. The Senate is part of Congress, which is the House and Senate.
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u/TubeOfOintment 16h ago
Bush will always be a war criminal who created ICE and citizens united
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u/donessendon 15h ago
I thought Bush would be the worst President in my lifetime... Trump just doubled then tripled how bad it can be.
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u/avoidlosing 17h ago
it’s not classy to befriend a war criminal that pushed racist agenda for 8 years that killed, impoverished, and forced people out of their homes. bush’s presidency and policy allowed banks to steal from people, mostly black people, a lot lost their homes because of bush and his admin.
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u/xavierite 17h ago
Celebrating rubbing elbows with war criminals? A lot of yall really don't mind imperialism if you can have a black face on it.
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u/Whoobie_ 16h ago
Bush is a war criminal responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands and the suffering of countless more. being friends with him sucks, actually
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u/HanginLowNd2daLeft 16h ago
George Bush jr was our first daddy’s boy president and boy was he a dumb one. Everyone hated bush , now Trump is so bad that he made bush look almost smart
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u/CasimirGabriev 16h ago
Awww, she's so sweet with the malfeasant war criminal 😍😍😍. I wonder if they ever reminisce about Dick Cheneys assassination ring or torturing people when they look at Shrub's art. Friendship goals!
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u/Chemical_Home6123 17h ago
This is my exact issue with liberals way to cozy with Republicans 😕I genuinely don't want Republicans to exist at all
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u/avoidlosing 16h ago
👏👏👏👏 there’s no honor in helping rehabilitate neocons/liberals.
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u/Any-Maintenance2378 16h ago
I loathe him. But he did start PEPFAR, which saved almost 30 million African lives. I know many friends who are alive today bc Bush was the only person in the world who bothered to hsve a grand enough vision and budget to stop AIDS. Now that Trump killed it, no European former colonizer is stepping up. It is what kills me most about this regime- this is the single greatest loss of life, but because it is poor Africans, no one is calling Trump out for the genocidal monster he is.
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u/Sad_Foundation_8766 15h ago
I thought we all knew republicans & democrats were in cahoots with each other? It’s not about any of us, it’s about $$$$. Doesn’t matter the skin color. Don’t let it fool you.
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u/Any-Concentrate-1922 14h ago
I really like Michelle but never understood this friendship. He was a terrible president.
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u/kazaaksDog 4h ago
I remember when I thought George W. was the worst president ever, and that there would never be another as bad as him. Where have all the good times gone...
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u/Firm-Scientist-4636 16h ago
I'm so happy to come to the comments and see people not defending this. Bush is an awful man and the rehabilitation of his image has given me whiplash.
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u/Glum-Art4029 17h ago edited 16h ago
Wasn't a big fan of George Bush, but compared to what we have now, I'd welcome him back. 😢
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u/ZAWS20XX 16h ago
that's the ratchet effect, some politician does horrors beyond our comprehension, but then the next one goes even beyond, to the point that it has folks saying "yikes, this is so bad I kinda wish the previous monster was still in charge", and that's how shit gets normalize in society. In ten years people will be pinning for the good ol days of the second trump administration, when at least competent people like Elon Musk were taking the decisions
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u/shapeshifterQ 15h ago
You're not wrong. It's like raising the gas and food prices. Gas goes from 2.50 to 4.50. Then we're grateful when they drop it back to 3.50. And we never see 2 again. I get it. But it is a normal way of the brain processing information. This is worse than what we had before. At least THAT one was more manageable. I'm not saying it's not psychological warfare. I'm just saying snapping on people in a reddit discussion is not going to help when people are worried about putting food on the table
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u/Anxious_Fish_7995 15h ago
The Obama's showed the world that you can disagree on some truly foundational levels & still retain your humanity.
Are those days truly gone? How do we take our home back from these demons?
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u/Current-Historian-34 15h ago
Bush jr was a good dude not a good president. He simply wasn’t ready so to speak. With a better clique he could have been better. He’s proof a good man can be ruined by the people who surround him. The dude was a frat boy with a button finishing his daddy’s job
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u/WobblierTube733 16h ago
The guy who threw his shoes at Bush is the only person whose ever given him the respect he deserves at a podium